73c Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Click on the photo, takes you to the flickr site with more details of location. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Thank you. That wasn’t one I had thought of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) On 24/08/2021 at 09:38, Titan said: I thought you were referring to normal and possibly regular operation. There are different rules for emergencies or "clearing the line" The cripple would be moved at a slow pace along with the rest of the train with a wheel skate if required, until it can be shunted out of the way. Once the cripple has made it clear of the line, I would expect any further travel required to a repair facility would be with a brake van if the brakes are inoperable, and probably overnight so the restricted speed causes minimum disruption to other traffic. Or the wagon could just be abandoned like the Shenfield Shark... If a fitted vehicle at the rearmost position has a failure on open road, and the vehicle brakes have to be isolated, with the Signallers authority, you can clear the line at low speed and not more than 5 mph over points but the line must be level or falling gradients, no uphill gradients in case of a detachment. If available, also a rider in the defective vehicle who can apply the vehicle parking brake if there is a detachment. Of course it is never simple, the rule varies with the type of coupling such as bar coupled formations which are less breakable than 3-link Edited August 26, 2021 by Pandora 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted August 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2021 This isn't a shunting move, this was tail traffic from Machynlleth according to the caption. Aberystwyth 1985 by Steven Clements Apparently it wasn't a one off as there was a loco ban on the line (because of Barmouth Bridge I'm guessing?) 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 26, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: This isn't a shunting move, this was tail traffic from Machynlleth according to the caption. Aberystwyth 1985 by Steven Clements Apparently it wasn't a one off as there was a loco ban on the line (because of Barmouth Bridge I'm guessing?) Don't think it's tail traffic as that was vehicles added to the rear of a DMU in passenger service mote the DMU being used as a locomotive 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Barmouth Bridge isn’t on the way to Aberystwyth. I’m guessing the weltrol/crocodile was there to pick up a VofR loco for overhaul, but why behind a DMU? Class 37s were still in use on oil trains and occasional passenger trains to Aberystwyth at this time. Intriguing... DMUs and particularly DPUs did haul ballast trains over the Cambrian Coast across Barmouth Bridge though. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Got a US layout & a couple of Amtrak Genesis locos but so far only one carriage has arrived. Edited April 21, 2022 by melmerby 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 21 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: Barmouth Bridge isn’t on the way to Aberystwyth. I’m guessing the weltrol/crocodile was there to pick up a VofR loco for overhaul, but why behind a DMU? Class 37s were still in use on oil trains and occasional passenger trains to Aberystwyth at this time. Intriguing... DMUs and particularly DPUs did haul ballast trains over the Cambrian Coast across Barmouth Bridge though. Yeah, the picture comments do mention that the Weltrol was to carry a VoR engine. If only someone had photographed that being pulled by a DMU! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 So which shop is going to commission that Hornby/Accurascale twin pack? 43049 Crewe 1977 by KDH Archive (Yes I know that it may not actually be a MK2B) 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Here's an interesting "prototype for everything" from the US (Roanoke): Foillowed by Big Boy in action at Texarkana Edited August 27, 2021 by melmerby 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Erm ............. looks to me like it's a whole train of equipment that's not yet been scrapped ! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 17 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Erm ............. looks to me like it's a whole train of equipment that's not yet been scrapped ! Yes I noticed that grammar too lol. it actually looks more like a movement of “for restoration” museum equipment. Some of that stuff is way beyond what would normally languish in scrap lines age-wise… 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Probably the latest batch of stuff de-acquisitioned by the NRM - 'cos they can't be bothered looking after them properly. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, ianmacc said: Yes I noticed that grammar too lol. it actually looks more like a movement of “for restoration” museum equipment. Some of that stuff is way beyond what would normally languish in scrap lines age-wise… The stuff looks in better nick than some of the wrecks that have been rebuilt in the UK. The E8-A diesel unit looks mostly complete. Here in better days: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted August 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Probably the latest batch of stuff de-acquisitioned by the NRM - 'cos they can't be bothered looking after them properly. To be fair to the (N)RM with the whole of the Science Museum group’s budgets slashed across the board what are they supposed to use for money to keep duplicates in the collection housed etc.? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 'West Countryman Railtour' Uffculme 1964 by KDH Archive 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, john new said: To be fair to the (N)RM with the whole of the Science Museum group’s budgets slashed across the board what are they supposed to use for money to keep duplicates in the collection housed etc.? Yes, they're short of dosh - and no doubt more so now the Government has a pandemic to pay for - but their definition of a 'duplicate' can be more than a little odd. Which outside cylinder 4-4-0 did the T3 'duplicate' for instance ? ........ or this wreck that they left in the open at York for donkey's years : - http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=1935 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted August 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Yes, they're short of dosh - and no doubt more so now the Government has a pandemic to pay for - but their definition of a 'duplicate' can be more than a little odd. Which outside cylinder 4-4-0 did the T3 'duplicate' for instance ? ........ or this wreck that they left in the open at York for donkey's years : - http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=1935 I was not attempting to defend every NRM decision, merely stating it is a little harsh to blame them for an issue they can’t control, namely not having enough funding to do everything needed. That blame rests with central government but when it comes to funding choices what I would support or cancel will be very different to the perspective of others, for example why did we need the new aircraft carriers when there is so much funding needed for things like public toilets, health care, libraries, child care etc, etc, that matter now to us all rather than in some vague idea of a future threat. A political choice, my views were the minority one when Westminster made the decisions. Edited August 29, 2021 by john new Grammar correction 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 GNR 0-4-4 CT by John Law 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowley 47521 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: GNR 0-4-4 CT by John Law Ah was that the one that could lift itself over a river if need be with the aid of skyhooks..? Edited August 29, 2021 by Cowley 47521 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted August 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2021 The loco was so prone to derailing, they added a crane so it was quicker to get it back on track..... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Can't decide whether you want a lamp post or a tree on your layout? How about a lamp tree? Grantham a few weeks ago. 8 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Aberystwyth 1986 by Steven Clements 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowley 47521 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Aberystwyth 1986 by Steven Clements What’s the interesting DMU arrangement coupled to the inspection saloon there then? Does anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Cowley 47521 said: What’s the interesting DMU arrangement coupled to the inspection saloon there then? Does anyone know? In the original caption. "Officer's Saloon DM45029 is shunted clear of the Main Line at Aberystwyth by 2-Car Parcels Unit formed of Class 116 DMBS 53072 and Class 120 DMBC 51785. "Due to a ban on locomotives working along the Cambrian Coast, special workings like this were carried out by Class 128 DPUs or converted Parcel Units." 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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