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Hello all, 

 

I'm trying to compile a list of the versions of the chips (Loksound 3.5 or 4) used in Bachmann sound-fitted diesel locomotives. Below is a list of what I believe are all the sound-fitted locomotives Bachmann have produced so far. I've put a few that I know myself alongside, I therefore appeal to RMweb members to help me complete the rest. When complete I believe it will be a useful resource for people buying second hand sound locomotives. 

 

32-038DS Class 20 20124 in BR blue wtih indicator discs - weathered. DCC Sound 

32-034DS Class 20 D8138 in BR green with centre head code box. DCC Sound V4.0

32-035DS Class 20 diesel 20034 in BR blue with disc headcodes (DCC Sound on board) V3.5

32-043DS Class 20 diesel 20129 BR blue with indicator boxes (DCC sound on board)

32-040DS Class 20 diesel D8113 in BR green (DCC sound on board) V3.5

32-033DS Class 20 diesel D8158 in BR Green with center headcode boxes (DCC Sound on board) V3.5 

32-425DS Class 24 Bo-Bo diesel 24035 BR blue (DCC sound on board) V3.5

32-429DS Class 24 Bo-Bo diesel D5100 in BR Plain Green with small yellow panel (DCC Sound)

32-426DS Class 24 Diesel D5038 BR Two Tone Green Indicator Discs (DCC Sound)

32-330DS Class 25/1 D5183 in BR green. DCC Sound

32-326DS Class 25/2 Bo-Bo diesel 25245 in BR Blue (DCC Sound) V3.5

32-404DS Class 25/3 25276 in BR blue. DCC Sound V4.0

32-400DS Class 25/3 Bo-Bo diesel 25095 in revised BR blue (DCC sound on board) V3.5

32-401DS Class 25/3 Bo-Bo diesel D7638 in BR 2 tone green (Digital Sound) V3.5

32-783DS Class 37/0 37049 in BR blue with split head code. DCC Sound V3.5

32-785DS Class 37/0 37254 in BR Departmental Civil Link Dutch livery - weathered. DCC Sound V4.0

32-781DS Class 37/0 diesel 37057 BR large logo blue "Viking" and corner indicators (DCC sound on board) V3.5

32-776DS Class 37/0 diesel 37254 with plated centre head code in BR blue (DCC Sound on board) V3.5

32-377DS Class 37/4 37417 'Highland Region' in BR large logo blue. DCC Sound V4.0

32-381QDS Class 37/4 Diesel Locomotive 37409 in Direct Rail Services Compass livery - DCC sound - Limited edition for Model Rail V4.0

32-376DS Class 37/5 diesel 37693 in Railfreight livery (DCC Sound on board) V3.5

32-380DS Class 37/5 diesel 37698 Railfreight Coal sector 'Coedbach' (DCC sound on board). V3.5

32-480DS Class 40 D211 'Mauretania' in BR green with indicator discs. DCC Sound on board V4.0

32-652DS Class 44 Peak 44005 in BR blue. DCC Sound V4.0

32-679DS Class 45 D27 in BR green with split head code & small yellow panel. DCC Sound V4.0

32-678DS Class 45 diesel D55 'Royal Signals' in BR green (DCC Sound on board) V3.5

32-801DS Class 47 diesel D1746 with 4 digit headcode in two tone green with half yellow ends (DCC Sound on board) V3.5

31-658DS Class 47/0 47190 "Pectinidae" in BR Petroleum Sector livery with sound V4.0

32-800DS Class 47/4 47404 "Hadrian" in BR blue with full yellow ends (DCC sound on board) V3.5

32-526DS Class 55 Deltic 55018 'Ballymoss' in BR blue. DCC Sound V4.0

32-530DS Class 55 Deltic diesel 55001 'St. Paddy' in BR blue (DCC Sound on board) V3.5

32-525DS Class 55 Deltic diesel D9007 "Pinza" in BR two tone green (DCC sound on board)

32-753XDS Class 57 Diesel 57604 in GWR Brunswick Green Livery (DCC Sound)- Rail Exclusive Limited Edition

32-750DS Class 57/0 Co-Co diesel 57003 "Freightliner Evolution" in Freightliner livery (DCC Sound).

32-762DS Class 57/3 57312 'The Hood' Virgin. Weathered. DCC Sound

32-725DS Class 66 diesel 66022 "Lafarge Charnwood" in EWS livery (DCC sound on board) V3.5

32-979YDS Class 66 Diesel 66301 in Fastline Freight Livery (DCC Sound Fitted) - Rail Express Limited Edition

32-726DS Class 66 diesel 66522 in Freightliner/Shanks Waste Solutions livery (DCC sound on board) V3.5

32-728DS Class 66 diesel 66546 in Freightliner livery. DCC Sound

32-727DS Class 66 diesel 66702 'Blue Lightning' in GBRf livery (DCC Sound on board) V3.5

31-587DS Class 70 PowerHaul diesel 70002 in Freightliner livery. DCC Sound

 

 

Cheers,

Bruce

 

HI

Here are 3 to add to or update the list

32-678DS Class 44 D55 ver 3.5

32-330DS Class 25 D5183 ver 4

32-429DS Class 24 D5100 ver 3.5

Yours,

DaveG

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Western Centurion

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Hi,

Is there a way of finding out who created the sound file on a decoder?

 

I recently bought a second hand Loksound v4 from Rails of Sheffield with a class 37 file loaded, and I must say that it is excellent, but as a complete novice to the world of DCC sound I couldn't tell you who created this sound file and I would like to know just out of curiosity.

 

I don't have a layout at the moment, I've only just finished converting my garage into a decent habitual environment and constructed the framework to support the baseboards but I do have a simple oval test track to satisfy my need to play and run new additions.

 

Hornby e-Link and railmaster is my choice of DCC controller and reading CV's 7&8 gives me the values of 255 for CV 7 and 151 for CV 8 both of which basically tell me about the decoder but there's nothing about the sound file.

 

Your help and advice is greatly appreciated,

Cheers, Mark.

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Hi,

Is there a way of finding out who created the sound file on a decoder?

 

I recently bought a second hand Loksound v4 from Rails of Sheffield with a class 37 file loaded, and I must say that it is excellent, but as a complete novice to the world of DCC sound I couldn't tell you who created this sound file and I would like to know just out of curiosity.

 

I don't have a layout at the moment, I've only just finished converting my garage into a decent habitual environment and constructed the framework to support the baseboards but I do have a simple oval test track to satisfy my need to play and run new additions.

 

Hornby e-Link and railmaster is my choice of DCC controller and reading CV's 7&8 gives me the values of 255 for CV 7 and 151 for CV 8 both of which basically tell me about the decoder but there's nothing about the sound file.

 

Your help and advice is greatly appreciated,

Cheers, Mark.

Mark, if you are able to post a short video clip either here or on some other medium we can all have fun guessing !

 

Which Class 37 is it ? If it is a model with factory fitted sound, chances are it is the sound file Bachmann use and is SouthWest Digital.

 

Otherwise you may find out by:

 

1. Asking Rails (however in my experience they have a 100% record of NOT knowing what the sound file it is and more often than not don't know what chip is inside)

2. Paperwork is in the box (e.g. Howes do this but of course someone may have swapped the box in the interim)

3. It may be written on the chip (e.g. Legomanbiffo does this)

 

cheers

Dave

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31-659DS class 47 47001 BR Blue, can confirm this is fitted with a V4 sound chip

30-048 highlander trainset class 37 37418, can confirm this is fitted with a V4 LOKSOUND SELECT, worthy of mention because some retailers have split this loco from the set and sold it separately

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tractor_37260

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confusing as D400 says bachman highland region is a v4.o but my cv table with the loco says sound volume goes up to 64.. which means its a 3.5..?  whos telling the truth..

 

As originally supplied by Bachmann, 37 417 had a Loksound V4.0 fitted, the volume range being 0 - 192.  Some early Bachmann V4.0 sound locos came with the earlier instruction sheet for V3.5 fitted models - hence the Vol showing 0-64.

Easy way to check is on the rear of the speaker - it should read 4ohms for a V4.0 Loksound or 100ohms for a V3.5. 

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Hmm, this is a worrying trend, if the loco does have a select chip then  you wont be able to reblow it, you will be stuck with bachmanns default 37 sound, which isnt the best....

if it was a proper V4 then yes you could have reblown it....to date as far as I know Bachmann have only equipped trainset locos with selects, but it would appear a quick search confirms you may be right.

 

if any of Bachmann read this.....the only thing you will achieve with selects in standalone locos Bachmann is upset customers!

 

AFAIN only Bach train set locos 37 418 and 20088 have had Loksound "Selects" fitted so far, most likely to keep the overall cost of the set down.  However if it's their intention to fit these to all sound fitted locos. I certainly won't be buying any especially at the current prices.

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AFAIN only Bach train set locos 37 418 and 20088 have had Loksound "Selects" fitted so far, most likely to keep the overall cost of the set down.  However if it's their intention to fit these to all sound fitted locos. I certainly won't be buying any especially at the current prices.

 

32-391DS  37796 is defiantly also a Select - which doesn't bode well for for future releases - however at the end of the day it reduces costs for Bachmann and I suspect a large proportion of customers won't even be aware they can "reblow" the sound of their locos so I can certainly see this being the way Bachmann go. The Class 37 select decoder isn't terrible but obviously isn't as good as some of the offerings from 3rd party providers. 

 

 

Bruce

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AFAIN only Bach train set locos 37 418 and 20088 have had Loksound "Selects" fitted so far, most likely to keep the overall cost of the set down.  However if it's their intention to fit these to all sound fitted locos. I certainly won't be buying any especially at the current prices.

 

What is AFAIN please?

 

Dave

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This is annoying! Was going to get my 20088 and 37796 reblown by Legomanbiffo and the factory Loksound Select decoders can't be reblown. I seriously hope they go back to using the V4. The 20 chip will be sold as it sounded truly terrible. Possibly the worst factory sound I've ever heard in a modern diesel, (apart from the Hornby 56) and far worse than previous sound releases in the Class 20. I can understand using the select in trainsets, but pleeeease not in standard locos as it'll damage sales for those in the know. It'll be cheaper to buy a non sound loco and give £110 to Legomanbiffo for a V4.  

 

Not a rant, but just slightly miffed and worthy of note as I reblow all of my decoders via Legomanbiffo.

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Just a thought,

 

If it was one of Charlie's Earthmovers that made the Lochnagar Crater in The Somme, then that was one hell of a bang !!

 

I defy anyone to stand on the edge of the crater, and not go weak at the knees,

 

I also defy anyone to stand in front of Charlie's exhibition stand, and not go a bit weak at the knees, also!

 

Alan..

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Just a thought,

 

 

 

I also defy anyone to stand in front of Charlie's exhibition stand, and not go a bit weak at the knees, also!

 

Alan..

 

In front of his stand ? - you can sometimes hear him from other side of the hall..............................  :jester:

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This is annoying! Was going to get my 20088 and 37796 reblown by Legomanbiffo and the factory Loksound Select decoders can't be reblown. I seriously hope they go back to using the V4. The 20 chip will be sold as it sounded truly terrible. Possibly the worst factory sound I've ever heard in a modern diesel, (apart from the Hornby 56) and far worse than previous sound releases in the Class 20. I can understand using the select in trainsets, but pleeeease not in standard locos as it'll damage sales for those in the know. It'll be cheaper to buy a non sound loco and give £110 to Legomanbiffo for a V4.  

 

Not a rant, but just slightly miffed and worthy of note as I reblow all of my decoders via Legomanbiffo.

 

DC Kits can are prepared to offer a 'Scrappage Scheme' trade in on the LokSound Selects, just contact Charlie

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