richard i Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 You mean you don't use double sided tape?If I could find a way to make it work, without it then picking up grout on it from its exposed stick in the window opening. Single sided might work for the door windows prior to fitting if can find a solution to the sticking issue. Maybe pva glue on top from the front as a sealant. I feel an experiment coming on. Would it stand up to the rigours of time? Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) Door furniture fitted. Also the A on the underframe. Not sure what that was for. Speaking of which, were the roof openings on the full brake topped off with glass or solid covering. I am assuming glass for light, or why have them. Richard Edited November 5, 2018 by richard i 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Door furniture fitted. Also the A on the underframe. Not sure what that was for. Was the GCR a Westinghouse line? If so the A indicates the position of the brake release valve. 'A' for air. Dual fitted vehicles would also have a 'V' indicating the position of the valve for the vacuum. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Was the GCR a Westinghouse line? If so the A indicates the position of the brake release valve. 'A' for air. Dual fitted vehicles would also have a 'V' indicating the position of the valve for the vacuum. The GC was a vacuum line, but probably had a greater percentage of dual fitted stock than most other lines. Usually, the vacuum release valve was indicated by a star on the solebar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Thank you both. Piping yet to be fitted to any of the coaches so not thought that far ahead, except to know I did not want to fit it this early to reduce the risk of damage as body and chassis get taken apart repeatedly during the build. Richard 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 The experiment begins. The tape would smudge with finger prints if left so I can see dust attaching before tackiness fades. So pva glue on top. Let’s see if it works, maybe once dry the tape can be peeled away leaving a flush glazed window. Richard 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Trimmed up and it is see through. Plan A looks to have some merit. Will now see if the tape can be peeled off. If there is any mileage in doing that. Richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Tape off and it is see through, correct shape and flush. It pays to leave some tape surround to grab hold of in order to peel it back. Success? Is this the way forward? Does it pay to take off the tape or is the visibility not improved? Richard 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 The first of the real coaches Tape is holding it in I have decided to do it this way to see if there is mileage in doing the whole side as one. It was a fight to line up the top without bending down the top prongs. I might line up the tape with the top edge and use these as a guide to grip the tape. Also might glue round tape as a belt and braces. Will see how it goes. Might do the coaches as two separate sections. The drop lights and the windows. It would allow some drop lights to be open. Richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 This method should also allow the roof window to be modeled. Experiment continued: We shall see if this works or ends up a shriveled glue mess. Richard 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Turns out it works! Roof lights shaped and windows flush fitted. It did not work quite as well on the duckets windows’ might do a modified version for the other two as it is slightly labour intensive. Drying time and all that. More patience with the drying time for the several layer for the roof lights might have paid off for their clarity, but the will be dirtied up so less noticeable. Richard 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Went to the Allentown train fair. More uk outline stuff to buy, ( 5 things) but prices were a bit steep even if they had been something of interest. $110 each for these locos! The 6 coaches as a bundle underneath are only $70. Also three Lima n gauge mk1 carriages at $45 each. I would have thought they would be priced to sell. Richard Edited November 13, 2018 by richard i 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 I did divert from the GCR and buy a couple of things for the n gauge. I am making it more penn focused. So I will be repainting a couple of already owned items and new transfers. Thankfully it is a simple livery. Looks like I am getting more drawn in by it. At least the pacific was the inspiration for Gresley A1. For the layout the next set of windows are being done. For the eagle eyed you will notice one missing, the trial one is being painted up in mahogany colour. Richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 A quick distraction, from work, from family duties and windows in 4 wheel carriages. Changed the loco I found cheep at a rail show. As you can see it is the wrong side of the country for the other pieces I have. So I have renumbered it and put it on an east coast railroad. I could have done the one that appears in “the polar express” but did the one I have seen at the Pennsylvania railroad museum. Extra transfers and repaint / weathering. Pretty chuffed for a days work. Richard 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) First set of seats. Into the “completed” pair of coaches first. Mousa models downloads. They work well at giving a representation of the seats and mirrors. I did do model versions in my Gresley suburban, including miniaturized genuine lner art work. In all honesty probably not worth it as small windows mean little is seen. These work quite well enough. Needed a lot of width trimming as these are narrow coaches. You can see they are in at some angles so a good choice to retro fit them. You can see the difference between seat and floor here. The eye catches it more than the camera which focuses on the glazing. Richard Edited November 21, 2018 by richard i 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 More seat variety. First the third with a fifth compartment. Then the composite which needed to cut and reorder the seats to get the third, first, first, third seating arrangement. Only the brake third to go. Richard 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) I wish you would do something about those unprototypical shiney white roofs. Edited November 23, 2018 by billbedford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 I wish you would do something about those unprototypical shiney white roofs.Patience, I will do when I get to weathering. I have in the back of my head advice that the only way to truly make a realistic job of weathering, you have to start off with a pristine condition and go from there. I wanted to do it all at the same time so the train has a consistent look so does not jar against each other as they run. Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) Still white rooves. However, train together. Reunited at home. Also alternate engineers and red brick bridge in the background as James raised it on his thread and I didn’t have a picture at the time, Also the distractions, glazed the 2-8-4 Weathered and detailed the prr k4 The eagle eyed will see that I found a picture on line of its front and so it is carrying the correct number on its red shield. I shrunk it and glued it on. Can you read it, yes, just. Do I know it is correct, of course...that’s why I do it. Let’s be honest no one else in the house gives two figs if it is right or not. Might have to paint the support bracket so it stands out less. And the connection to Dettingen? It inspired the Gresley Pacifics which ran on the gcr. Knew I would get it back on topic some how. Edited November 25, 2018 by richard i 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 It's a very subtle effect, that red and blue brick, isn't it? I do rather like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 It is quite subtle but looks good, James. Here is a clearer photo I worry about how much eye pain I will cause you if you decide to go this route. If you have brick coloured plastic sheet. Paint in the blue then scrape away any which has strayed onto the red. Then do mortar if it takes your fancy as a full covering and wipe off diagonally. Richard 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggy1165 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Seeing those US locos makes me wonder if there is something on the US RTR market that could readily be converted to resemble the GCR's own Baldwin locos, which, personally I have always found rather attractive. Perhaps because they are so "different" to the usual British designs. Of course the real locos were not a great success, but that does not matter with a model. It's something I should love in 7mm scale, but the chance of anyone producing a kit, let alone RTR, is as near to zero as makes no difference. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2018 Kemtron used to produce a kit for a Wabash mogul (and I think there have been some brass RTR) in 0 gauge which might be a suitable starting point for a heavy kitbash. Bachmymay have produced an H0 mogul, possibly suitable for an 00 conversion. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2018 Kemtron Wabash mogul: The blog itself is worth a visit: https://dominionandnewengland.wordpress.com 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Those have potential. I know a USA light 2-10-2 was used as the basis of a conversion for the never built big Baldwin by mr. King. I might have to look out for something suitable at the next train meet I am at. It has got me thinking. Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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