Class 800 - Updates

[Ian Hargrave]

11 minutes ago, caradoc said:

On a flippant note..... Were/are there any plans to name any of the 80x fleet after rivers ? I'm thinking of the Highland Railway's River class, deemed too heavy for their own railway, and the Southern Railway's River class tanks, which had to be rebuilt as tender locos after derailments.....

 

How about Slough Of Despond for one

[Bucoops]

Egg dishes? Omelette Express. Fried Egg flyer. Scrambled South-western.  

[Harlequin]

My sister was out and about this week and sent me this great photo:

 

I think the location is Doncaster but I haven't been able to check with her yet.

 

[31A]

24 minutes ago, Harlequin said:

My sister was out and about this week and sent me this great photo:

 

I think the location is Doncaster but I haven't been able to check with her yet.

 

Looks like it!

[Richard E]

On 12/08/2022 at 09:09, Harlequin said:

My sister was out and about this week and sent me this great photo:

 

I think the location is Doncaster but I haven't been able to check with her yet.

 

Definitely Doncaster, know it too well from 11 years of commuting through the station.

[jjb1970]

[RJS1977]

16 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

 

As I went from Reading-Leeds and back yesterday (via London both ways) it's possible they may be the units I travelled on - sorry, didn't catch the names/numbers.

[jjb1970]

I must admit I think the GWR green is the best of the IEP liveries, simple but dignified and rather classy. They seem to be very well looked after too. I also like the blue ones on the ECML, Limo? Again, very simple but a very nice french-ish blue. I haven't seen the TPE ones yet but I do like the TPE CAF sets, although the livery is slightly busy it is very striking and works really well.

[4630]

1 hour ago, jjb1970 said:

I haven't seen the TPE ones yet but I do like the TPE CAF sets, although the livery is slightly busy it is very striking and works really well.

 

Whilst accepting that liveries will always be a personal view of what looks good or not, I agree that the TPE livery works well on the 802/2s.  Probably not an easy task to achieve given that the colours and layout also adorn vehicles of classes 185, 397, as well as the Mark 5 'Nova 3' sets and the accompanying class 68 locos.

 

TPE 802205 approaching Heaton Lodge East Junction on 17th August 2022 with 1P29, from Liverpool Lime Street to Newcastle. 

 

TPE 802218 unusually calling at Brighouse on the Calder Valley line on 13th August 2022, due to engineering work on the usual route through Huddersfield, with 9M12 from Newcastle to Liverpool Lime Street.

 

 

 

[rodent279]

2 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

I must admit I think the GWR green is the best of the IEP liveries, simple but dignified and rather classy. They seem to be very well looked after too. I also like the blue ones on the ECML, Limo? Again, very simple but a very nice french-ish blue. I haven't seen the TPE ones yet but I do like the TPE CAF sets, although the livery is slightly busy it is very striking and works really well.

Liveries are a matter of personal taste. Personally, I think the GWR livery is a rather dull and uninspiring hark back to the past. It makes no use of the train's shape and form, something which LNER, Lumo & TPE have managed rather well.

They (GWR) could have made a little more of it with a nice broad gold or cream stripe along the sides, with a curve at the ends in sympathy with the nose profile.

[hexagon789]

1 hour ago, rodent279 said:

Liveries are a matter of personal taste. Personally, I think the GWR livery is a rather dull and uninspiring hark back to the past. It makes no use of the train's shape and form, something which LNER, Lumo & TPE have managed rather well.

They (GWR) could have made a little more of it with a nice broad gold or cream stripe along the sides, with a curve at the ends in sympathy with the nose profile.

I'm with yourself, Rodent. I find the GWR green very dull and uninteresting visually. LNER at least makes use of the lines of the 80x design but it's TPE that really stands out.

[Siberian Snooper]

As far as I am concerned  TPE have the most comfortable seats and the GW ones are the worst. You can't see the livery, once you get on the train.

 

 

[lmsforever]

TPE livery is one of the best around at the moment always like to see them on camera at Beattock and they keep them clean.

[Rivercider]

5 hours ago, rodent279 said:

Liveries are a matter of personal taste. Personally, I think the GWR livery is a rather dull and uninspiring hark back to the past. It makes no use of the train's shape and form, something which LNER, Lumo & TPE have managed rather well.

They (GWR) could have made a little more of it with a nice broad gold or cream stripe along the sides, with a curve at the ends in sympathy with the nose profile.

I agree.

On a dull day, and in shadow,  the GWR livery looks almost black to me, with no hi-lights to lift it,

 

cheers

[rodent279]

Though to be fair, GWR livery sits quite well on Sprinters. It just doesn't do the 80x's justice.

[Bucoops]

1 hour ago, Rivercider said:

I agree.

On a dull day, and in shadow,  the GWR livery looks almost black to me, with no hi-lights to lift it,

 

cheers

 

Well, it suits its namesake predecessors, they had to slap a polished copper thing on top to try and brighten things up they were so dull 😛

[jjb1970]

I find the LNER Azuma livery somewhat bland and forgettable. I like the Lumo livery but part of the reason for that is it a very simple livery based on a nice colour. TPE have quite a complex livery but it seems to have been very well considered and is genuinely striking, combining attractive colours with a clever design. 

[corneliuslundie]

However, history has shown that blue liveries do not weather well. Has paint changed? Or is it all vinyl anyway?

Jonathan

[hexagon789]

2 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

However, history has shown that blue liveries do not weather well. Has paint changed? Or is it all vinyl anyway?

Jonathan

Vinyl over base Hitachi white afaik

[4630]

A few minutes near Temple Hirst Junction, between Doncaster and York, on 27th August 2022 whilst waiting for the 'Midland Pullman' liveried HST to pass on a rail tour - photos on this thread if you're interested - and several 800s of various sub-classes sped by...

 

LNER

800102 1W11 London Kings Cross to Aberdeen

 

801208 1S10 London Kings Cross to Edinburgh

 

801219 1E09 Edinburgh to London Kings Cross

 

801226 1N81 London Kings Cross to York

 

 

Hull Trains

802301 1A93 Hull to London Kings Cross

 

802303 London Kings Cross to Hull

 

 

Lumo

803002 1E82 Edinburgh to London Kings Cross

 

 

Edited August 31, 2022 by 4630

[Reorte]

On 19/08/2022 at 14:27, 4630 said:

 

Whilst accepting that liveries will always be a personal view of what looks good or not, I agree that the TPE livery works well on the 802/2s.  Probably not an easy task to achieve given that the colours and layout also adorn vehicles of classes 185, 397, as well as the Mark 5 'Nova 3' sets and the accompanying class 68 locos.

I don't like the TPE livery on the 68 - looks far too busy and fussy there (and on most of its other trains for that matter) but it suits the 800s.

 

I'm in the "like" camp on the GWR livery, smart and dignified. The Lumo blue is too bright, the LNER white and red the very definition of bland, whilst managing to be almost gaudy at the same time. Nothing smart about it anyway. All IMO of course.

[jjb1970]

I love TPE livery on the class 397(?) trains, very striking.

 

[corneliuslundie]

Isn't the LNER livery a variation of the "DafT approved" basic version, which I suspect we shall see more of?

And not dissimilar to the TfW livery.

Jonathan

[TomScrut]

On 31/08/2022 at 16:06, 4630 said:

Hull Trains

 

One I hope Hornby do! When they turn up I'll have the other liveries in your post!

[St. Simon]

Hi,

 

Another new Livery for GWR Class 802s spotted this morning on my way to work:

 

 

Can’t see the full number, all I can see is 802 13x. Not convinced by it myself!

 

Simon