Jamiel Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I don't think I have seen this link posted in the thread, apologies if I have missed it, but if anyone is looking for references for weathering or for prototype rakes to model from diesel days there are plenty of photos and information on the page for 'Limestone trains from Great Rocks/Tunstead featuring D5274 - D5279, 5274 - 5279, 25124 - 25129 & D7586, 7586, 25236 and many others that worked these services.'http://www.derbysulzers.com/5274.htmlI can't help thinking it would be a brave modeller to try and put such a pristine wagon in the middle of a well worn rake as seen in. http://www.derbysulzers.com/25104peakforest.jpgAlso interesting to see the wagons top and tailed by a pair of 25s, was this just for ease of shunting, or did this go on the main line like this?Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 It was quite common to see an ex works hopper in amongst the dusty rusty coloured wagons especially in the 1970s to early 1990s. Have a look on Flickr for the new ICI Hoppers photo group that was recently set up for more examples. The rear 25 in that photo link would have been the banker loco and would have dropped off the rear just before the bridge where the photographer is standing leaving the front loco and it's loaded hoppers to make it over the summit a little further along the line towards Chinley. Top and tail moves did take place when the trains were diverted away from the booked route via Chinley, New Mills South Junction. This involved sending the trains via Buxton with a reversal at Great Rocks Junction, Buxton sidings and then Buxton station itself. Double headed 25s on front and single 25 on the rear was one example of this move. HTH Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2017 I take it no news is not so good news... we might have to take up plan B for Chapel en le Frith for its shows this year....shame...but such is life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 It has gone rather quiet hmmm. Not even showing in the Hatton's advert anymore in modelling press where it gives updates on projects Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankdave Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Would be good to know if these are happening? if not I'll search for something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I can’t see any reason why they would be cancelled – especially as the project has got as far as it evidently has. See post 200. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Its still showing as "1st Engineering Prototype seen" on Hattons project updates: http://www.hattons.co.uk/projectupdates Available for pre order too so can't see it being cancelled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2017 The warwell is now at the same development stage after a lot less time. And the hoppers progress appears to have stalled. I and some of my LeedsMRS colleagues have preferred some but it looks like we won't have these for STEAM, Leeds Show or Warley this year. Shame as they would have looked nice on Chapel. But just because you preorder them it doesn't mean that they have to appear as a model. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 There seems to have been a product wide delay on items being produced by Oxford Rail. Their Dean Goods loco is overdue with no update and the Yorkshire Engine Janus for Golden Valley, was advertised as expected last January, but is now said to be 'in production' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hi all,Thanks for the interest. We've been told to expect second EPs very soon and as soon as these are available we'll show them here.Cheers,Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hi Dave If they are OK any idea how long before production ones appear please? We could really do with ours early August to give time for coupling changes, testing and home weathering. Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hi Dave If they are OK any idea how long before production ones appear please? We could really do with ours early August to give time for coupling changes, testing and home weathering. Baz Hi Baz, We aren't currently publicising a release date as we'd prefer this to be more confirmed before we do so, however as with the EPs we'll make this info available as soon as possible. Cheers, Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9FEd Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Thanks for the updates Dave - pleased that the hoppers are making steady progress and looking forward to seeing the next stage in due course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 A Roxey Mouldings Kit is roughly £40.00, or around £50.00 with wheels, then it has to be built. Personally I dont mind building one, which may or may not be a simple task, but a RTR version is definitely the preferred option when a train of them is required. I'll keep an eye on this thread for updates. Does anyone produce transfers for 'John Summers'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Blackham Transfers were going to do a sheet based on their 7mm sheet for the Warren Shepherd brass kit of the Summers wagons. The 4mm Roxey kit was started by Warren Shepherd originally a project I was involved with for a while and Alan Blackham was supposed be doing 4mm versions reduced down from his 7mm sheet of rub-on transfers. Whether they ever got produced I do not know. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2017 no updates...... seems like these have gone into a large black hole.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Black Hole?? I don't think so. EPs were available to view and whole series of new paint finishes on list. They are coming. I have been waiting 40 odd years. I can wait another few months! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2017 Black hole it is...warwell about to be delivered but these are still to be seen. Have Oxford Rail got serious delivery issues? Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2017 Black hole it is...warwell about to be delivered but these are still to be seen. Have Oxford Rail got serious delivery issues? Baz Might be a straightforward commercial decision, there may be more interest and orders for the warwells, so they go to the top of the queue. Not necessarily a conspiracy theory. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Might be a straightforward commercial decision, there may be more interest and orders for the warwells, so they go to the top of the queue. Not necessarily a conspiracy theory. Mike. There is no competition for the ICI hoppers but the first to the shelf with the Warwell gets a big chunk of the of the sales! In most cases the conspiracy theory hold no water but the cock up does, it seems recently that duplication is more and more common! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Black hole it is...warwell about to be delivered but these are still to be seen. Have Oxford Rail got serious delivery issues? Baz I think that Oxford has had manufacturing delays over the last 6 months. This opinion is solely based on the delays that have occurred with its own range products and other commissions. The main range Dean Goods and Mk 3 coaches have been delayed by 6 months as has the Janus industrial diesel for Golden Valley, who advertised the NCB version as a January release and its now being shipped for a late June release. Certainly they have been very quiet on new releases and product development for some months. They may have been adversely affected by the Chinese New Year staff losses that can occur. They do seem to be moving now, with the Dean Goods and carflats from the main range being shipped as we write, as is the first of the Janus diesels. Hopefully we'll see further samples soon. Edited June 12, 2017 by rembrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Hattons Dave Posted June 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) Hi all, Sorry for the delay in getting updates out to you all but we've got something great to share with you today. Late on yesterday we received an intriguing box from Oxford. Inside we found the first six painted samples of the ICI hopper wagons. This covers the battleship grey versions which will be turned out in pristine condition. This includes versions with small/large/no ICI lettering as well as differing bogies and axle boxes. All still available to order HERE on our website. Anyway, enough from me and over to the real reason you came here...pictures! Cheers, Dave Also, we couldn't resist playing trains for 5 minutes...maybe 10. Edited June 29, 2017 by Hatton's Dave 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9FEd Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Looking great! Will be interested to see weathered samples if they get sent through too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted June 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2017 They look superb models! Still think you should think of an O gauge version! Did these run in rakes of 15 wagons then? Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I particularly like the smiley on a couple of them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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