Pragmatic Pre-Grouping - Mikkel's Workbench

[Mikkel]

I use the kitchen table a lot - watched and often ‘helped’ by my 4 year old son...despite having a workbench in the loft space!

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Do you use a tray or something similar? I worry about having to take things out and packing them away during every modelling session.

 

 

Good luck!  Some of us already have to manage on the kitchen table (in turns with the other half).

 

We have however just acquired a Silhouette Cameo thanks to you.  You might like to let us know what spare blades we should buy!

 

We shall keep watching

 

Regards

 

Ray

 

Thanks Ray! Good to hear you have got yourself a Cameo cutter. I think there are many opinions on the blades. I began with the standard Silhouette ratched ones, then tried the cheaper types with a CB09 holder (as illustrated by Mike on Jason's thread here), but am currently using the Silhouette premium blade. This is more costly but I like the simplicity of it and it has proven durable so far. Other opinions are available, and many on here are more experienced with this than I am.

[Mikkel]

Mikkle

 

Good luck with the move and I hope you are as happy in your new house as we are. We moved 30 months ago and for the first 21 mths worked off the table, past 8 mths have a room but still too busy with the remodeling of the property. Soon will be back modelling properly again

 

Thanks John, well if that excellent trackwork comes off a normal table then there is hope. I see you're looking at loco building again, should be good.

 

 

I can understand your concerns Mikkel but I'm certain the house move is in good hands.....

 

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However, I not sure that all of your modelling equipment will get there at the same time......

 

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All the very best and hope you and the family settle into your new house.

 

G

 

Ha! Wish we had that crew and some GWR motive power to help. The amount of modelling stuff to pack has been especially surprising. Amazing how much of it we amass!

[Northroader]

[Penlan]

Good luck with the move...

Looking back to early August.. The waggon load box from 'Froth & Bile', with a crest on the end of the box.....
I suspect it's been covered elsewhere, but if so, it's eluded me. How was this done, please.

[Mikkel]

Thanks, we're getting there!

 

The crates were done by printing on veneer sheets,as described at the outset of the thread here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/97672-pragmatic-pre-grouping-mikkels-workbench/page-1

 

Note that it requires a top-feed printer.

[Penlan]

Many thanks, uhmn, like any 'Proper Story', start at the beginning (of the Topic) - then there's a middle and an end.....
Just need access to a top feed printer now. 
EDIT.

It seems Crafty Paper etc., are no longer trading,  I may be short sighted, but I couldn't see a UK based alternative.
However, I can see a way round this, especially if the viewer is more than 2 feet away...
But, that hint of real wood, can't be disguised, however much one try's.

Edited August 21, 2018 by Penlan

[Donw]

Mikkel I suggest using one of those tv tables placing a cloth on top to protect it and a suitable portable workbench. I made mine to fit in an old brief case which makes it easy to store away. I also used to take it on trains when travelling for work. I could usually find a bit of room for a few papers ( I was a Project Manager) as well as a slaters 7mm kit or two.

 

 

 

I have a pair of extra strength reading glasses £1 from poundland for manification

 

Don

 

PS 

The TV table folds for storage. The workbench is a pice of melamine with ply sides etc. MDF or PLy would do. The sides are vertical which is handy for aligning corners.

 

pp Hope the move goes well

Edited August 21, 2018 by Donw

[Regularity]

Neat.

 

But don’t try to take it on a plane as hand luggage!

[Mikkel]

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Thank you Northroader! Almost missed your post in all the confusion. Great drawing, your sketches are becoming part of the spirit of RMweb. It will be printed and framed    

[Mikkel]

Many thanks, uhmn, like any 'Proper Story', start at the beginning (of the Topic) - then there's a middle and an end.....

Just need access to a top feed printer now. 

EDIT.

It seems Crafty Paper etc., are no longer trading,  I may be short sighted, but I couldn't see a UK based alternative.

However, I can see a way round this, especially if the viewer is more than 2 feet away...

But, that hint of real wood, can't be disguised, however much one try's.

 

Oh no, that's not good news. I was also planning to do more crates. There appears to be something similar here, but they are in the US: 

 

https://www.realwoodpaper.com/printable-wood-sheets/

https://www.cardsofwood.com/micro-thin-wood-veneer/

[Mikkel]

Mikkel I suggest using one of those tv tables placing a cloth on top to protect it and a suitable portable workbench. I made mine to fit in an old brief case which makes it easy to store away. I also used to take it on trains when travelling for work. I could usually find a bit of room for a few papers ( I was a Project Manager) as well as a slaters 7mm kit or two.

 

 

 

 

 

I have a pair of extra strength reading glasses £1 from poundland for manification

 

Don

 

PS 

The TV table folds for storage. The workbench is a pice of melamine with ply sides etc. MDF or PLy would do. The sides are vertical which is handy for aligning corners.

 

pp Hope the move goes well

 

Thanks Don, as Simon says that looks very neat indeed. I like the idea of simply opening and shutting a lid, and the easy storage. Looks like the way to go!

[Penlan]

Mikkel, downloaded a few wood grained images and using a 'stencil' font, all seems well, or near as.

I do my lettering etc., in Excel, because I can adjust the printout size in 'Set-up', so for this exercise I've ended up at 20% of the screen, etc., size.  My version of MSWord doesn't seem to allow that, and I limit the number of programmes I want to use anyway.

Edit, Ooops missed your reply - Yes, plenty in the USA.
But apart from digital photographs, I doubt many people will be close enough to the packages to see my work-around.

Many thanks Mikkel for the inspiration.

This Cart was done the same way, lettering etc about 10 times bigger than the final size, and then the paper glued to a brass sheet former. 
I think they must be going fast round a bend, a cart wheel's off the ground and the horse is leaning into the bend   

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2018 by Penlan

[wagonman]

Thanks Don, as Simon says that looks very neat indeed. I like the idea of simply opening and shutting a lid, and the easy storage. Looks like the way to go!

 

 

There is a "purpose made" modelling table available from Intentio 

http://intentio.co.uk/hbxookyxrmfnv4quq9c9w/

[Mikkel]

Mikkel, downloaded a few wood grained images and using a 'stencil' font, all seems well, or near as.

 

I do my lettering etc., in Excel, because I can adjust the printout size in 'Set-up', so for this exercise I've ended up at 20% of the screen, etc., size.  My version of MSWord doesn't seem to allow that, and I limit the number of programmes I want to use anyway.

 

Edit, Ooops missed your reply - Yes, plenty in the USA.

But apart from digital photographs, I doubt many people will be close enough to the packages to see my work-around.

 

Many thanks Mikkel for the inspiration.

 

This Cart was done the same way, lettering etc about 10 times bigger than the final size, and then the paper glued to a brass sheet former. 

I think they must be going fast round a bend, a cart wheel's off the ground and the horse is leaning into the bend   

 

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That sounds like a useful workaround, must remember that. 

 

I very much like that LNWR wagon. Some GWR wagons had a similar rigid top, and I've been wondering how to model that. The brass sheet former method is just the solution I was looking for. Thanks!

 

There is a "purpose made" modelling table available from Intentio 

http://intentio.co.uk/hbxookyxrmfnv4quq9c9w/

 

Many thanks Richard, that does look interesting. Will investigate.

[hayfield]

That sounds like a useful workaround, must remember that. 

 

I very much like that LNWR wagon. Some GWR wagons had a similar rigid top, and I've been wondering how to model that. The brass sheet former method is just the solution I was looking for. Thanks!

 

 

Many thanks Richard, that does look interesting. Will investigate.

 

 

A system I have seen is to use the plastic stationary stacking trays to store projects, also some of these trays designed to be used whilst in an arm chair have possibilities  

[Mikkel]

Interesting, that sounds like a whole new angle on armchair modelling!

 

Speaking of plastic trays, I have been eyeing these shelves in our "out" pile. They are from the Ikea "Trofast" range and were originally used for something else, but two of those could fit in a closet. Each tray could store all the bits of a given project as you say John. The point is that they can be easily taken out and moved to the temporary workbench. Maybe I should try and sneak them into the "keep" pile! 

 

[Northroader]

Do you have Chinese takeaway meals there?

[MikeOxon]

I use gardeners' 'gravel trays' for storing my modelling bits and pieces.  you need the sort without drainage holes or small parts will disappear!

e.g. http://stewart-garden.co.uk/products/black/22cm/premium-gravel-tray-without-holes/ (no connection with this firm)

[Mikkel]

Do you have Chinese takeaway meals there?D0E49441-BBB3-4AF9-B311-11A5C4A693E8.jpeg

 

Yes, but I prefer curry and I don't know if  works with curry 

 

I'm intrigued by the box on the right. A Beyer loco built in 18... something?

 

I use gardeners' 'gravel trays' for storing my modelling bits and pieces.  you need the sort without drainage holes or small parts will disappear!

e.g. http://stewart-garden.co.uk/products/black/22cm/premium-gravel-tray-without-holes/ (no connection with this firm)

 

Thanks Mike. Clicking further led me to a propagator. Z scale roundy-roundy anyone?

 

On a related note, I came upon Chris Nevard's layout in a box while browsing today. Great stuff.

Edited August 24, 2018 by Mikkel

[Donw]

Interesting, that sounds like a whole new angle on armchair modelling!

 

Speaking of plastic trays, I have been eyeing these shelves in our "out" pile. They are from the Ikea "Trofast" range and were originally used for something else, but two of those could fit in a closet. Each tray could store all the bits of a given project as you say John. The point is that they can be easily taken out and moved to the temporary workbench. Maybe I should try and sneak them into the "keep" pile! 

 

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When our cat died the litter tray well washed was adopted for modelling use. 

 

Don

[Northroader]

Being as you’ve asked, I’d best take the lid off, unfold the drawing that caught your eye, and serve up a portion of Beyer Peacock Chow Mein. There’s a collection of all the “manufactured” items I need before I start a build, wheels, axles, bushes, buffers, all Slaters, then motor and gears, frame spacers, from various dealers. I usually start by painting the wheels after doing balance weights. It’s being made the old fashioned way, fairly simple uncompensated frames in sixteenth inch brass, rather than how they do modern kits in thin etched brass sheet. You’ll see they’ve been sweated together, and I think I was waiting for some eighth inch section bar for side rods to sweat on top, so I can drill pilot holes through the lot, but then something else caught my eye, and now I’ve got the brass bar, but the times gone somewhere else. The tub is useful in keeping all the bits together until the erecting shop has formed them into one big lump.

P.s.edit, it looks as if a set of bogie wheels has appeared for some strange reason, how?why? Help!

From a GWR point of view, B.P. built some 6’ 2-4-0s for the West Midland Rly., which must be very like these except for outside bearings on the leading axle. However, Wolverhampton monkeyed about with them, forming the GWR “196” class, and losing the B.P. look in the process. They lasted to around WW1. I reckon No. 23 was the prettiest engine the LMS had, having a pure B.P. look until it went in WW2, particularly as the York Road folks ignored the livery diktat from Derby and kept everything painted red. So, what to do? Find the time from somewhere and progress this as ..what?? A recent stocktake I’m doing is throwing up questions about what I really need.

Edited August 25, 2018 by Northroader

[Mikkel]

That's a good looking engine. There is something very appealing about 2-4-0s. Don't think I've seen two loco jacks on a loco before, but maybe that's just because you can't normally see both sides?

 

Perhaps the extra bogie wheels were intended for another tub. Happens all the time when I order take away...

[Brassey]

Hi Mikkel,

 

In case you miss it, this thread has a contemporary hand tinted card that includes a GW wagon in red in Tenbury goods yard:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/129110-wooferton/page-2

 

Regards

 

Peter

[Compound2632]

And with the 25" G W initials too!

 

Too be taken with a very small quantity of sodium chloride, I think.

[Donw]

I suspect it is a hand coloured photo and whoever did it thought the wagon would be red not taking into account the lettering.

 

Don