bike2steam Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The Nu-cast range also included Stephen Poole Kits, which included the ex GER/LNER F4/5,N7, the lovely little 'Coffee-pot', and the 54/64/74 exGW pannier, it would be nice to see updated versions appear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Fife Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think Stephen Poole also did an E4, F3, and perhaps a F7. Thane of Fife Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think Stephen Poole also did an E4, F3, and perhaps a F7. Thane of Fife Don't know about the F3 and F7, but he certainly did an E4 that got transferred in to the Nu-Cast range. Guess where this came from! Phil PS - It doesn't run on the original Nu-cast chassis! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kirk Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Hi, When Bill Stott (Nu Cast) bought the Stephen Poole range I got the job of refurbishing the brass masters before Bill had new rubber moulds made from them. Part of this exercise involved reducing the thickness of some components (to reduce weight as the caster he used charged by weight). Not sure of how many as I no longer have my records from then but I think I can remember the E4 . an 0-6-2T a 2-4-2T an 0-6-0 tender loco and the little 0-4-0ST There were others but some I only saw bits of. I presume from some of the earlier posts in this thread that the new owners have had new rubber moulds produced from the brass masters but am surprised that they have included the Sentinel Shunter as this was originally plastic body on white metal footplate/axleboxes etc. I did the patterns (for the underneath bits) for Bill and supplied him with plastic mouldings for the body. I still have the mould plates but have not made any mouldings from them for perhaps 30 years. I wanted to use a Tenshodo to power this but Bill insisted on a white metal arrangement for the chassis. We had the same disagreement about the Sentinel Railcar (I lost there too. The customer is always right) and the power arrangements were always a weakness in these. best wishes, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted March 31, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2015 The Sentinel shunter I built about 20 years ago (Autocom?) was indeed a plastic body with whitemetal below but with a cast weight that also acted as a mounting for a Tenshodo unit, it seems you won in the end Ian! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Hi, When Bill Stott (Nu Cast) bought the Stephen Poole range I got the job of refurbishing the brass masters before Bill had new rubber moulds made from them. Part of this exercise involved reducing the thickness of some components (to reduce weight as the caster he used charged by weight). Not sure of how many as I no longer have my records from then but I think I can remember the E4 . an 0-6-2T a 2-4-2T an 0-6-0 tender loco and the little 0-4-0ST There were others but some I only saw bits of. Ian The 0-6-0 being the J15, the new rtr version probably renders the kit pretty well pointless ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The 0-6-0 being the J15, the new rtr version probably renders the kit pretty well pointless ?? There'll still be a limited market wanting some for P4 purposes. It's either that or waiting for the next batch of AGW kits. RTR isn't the answer to everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Hi, When Bill Stott (Nu Cast) bought the Stephen Poole range I got the job of refurbishing the brass masters before Bill had new rubber moulds made from them. Part of this exercise involved reducing the thickness of some components (to reduce weight as the caster he used charged by weight). Not sure of how many as I no longer have my records from then but I think I can remember the E4 . an 0-6-2T a 2-4-2T an 0-6-0 tender loco and the little 0-4-0ST There were others but some I only saw bits of. I presume from some of the earlier posts in this thread that the new owners have had new rubber moulds produced from the brass masters but am surprised that they have included the Sentinel Shunter as this was originally plastic body on white metal footplate/axleboxes etc. I did the patterns (for the underneath bits) for Bill and supplied him with plastic mouldings for the body. I still have the mould plates but have not made any mouldings from them for perhaps 30 years. I wanted to use a Tenshodo to power this but Bill insisted on a white metal arrangement for the chassis. We had the same disagreement about the Sentinel Railcar (I lost there too. The customer is always right) and the power arrangements were always a weakness in these. best wishes, Ian Hi Ian Have you spoken with Dave Ellis of SE Finecast about this? I was speaking with him earlier today and from what was said, I suspect he may be interested in any information others have about work they've done, bits they have etc. As bike2steam says, the 0-6-0 is a J15, the 0-6-2 is an N2, the 2-4-2 is an F4/5 (and is one that, I believe, Dave can produce body castings for as the moulds seem to be in reasonable condition, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed!) and the 0-4-0 is a Nielsen Coffee-pot. As Horsetan says, there will still be a market for kits (although not just for P4 modellers) , especially for those who, like me, enjoy building locos. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benachie Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I believe the Stephen Poole/Nucast F4 has tanks that are 5mm too short. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 2, 2015 Did the nucast range include the sutherland and K's wagon kits in the end? There are some interesting wagons in there if it did, mind you I doubt they are high up the list to get re-done. Propably down there with the Ex HR stuff! andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I've never seen those other than in the Sutherland or NuCast boxes, so if they do still exist and are part of the range they may be much harder to bring back to market or it would have been done already. To the best of my knowledge Autocom never marketed them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kirk Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Hi, The Sutherland wagon kits were mostly a joint effort with white metal underframe bits and plastic bodies. I did the brass patterns for Sutherland but owned the body moulds. Sometime later at least some of the wagons got plastic underframes and were incorporated into my range, going eventually to Parkside or Colin Ashby. The LNER fish van and pipe wagon definitely were. I can not for the life of me remember what happened to the Highland meat van and loco coal which were also plastic bodied. The Highland single bolster wagon was all white metal. A Highland Coach was projected (to go with the HR loco kits) but alas never got beyond the planning stage. best wishes, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_ellinson Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I've got a pair of Sutherland HR Bolsters that I built thirty years ago - they're solid white metal. Nice things, but a little out of place on the Hawkhurst Branch! I've got a Nu cast Sentinel which i've just re-engined with a tenshodo bogie after years of running with the original powertrain and then my own verson. This was an interesting thing, the original being a cast block with plastic motor mounts and a gear train to a woem for each axle. i seem to think that the motor was a DS10. It ran poorly and i replaced much of the castings with a brass chassis I'd made myself, re-using the original gearing. The motor bogie swap has at last allowed me to include some detail inside the sentinel, something that a mobile box on wheels needs! I've also got a Nu-cast "Y5", the first kit I ever built and a lovely thing. For years it ran with the white metal chassis block and an anchoridge D11 crammed inside. A good few years back, i bought a pair of new frames from autocom and my next job is to put these under the body. It's a beautiful little thing and I'm very attached to it... happy days! Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Fife Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 At the Epsom Exhibition this last weekend. South Eastern Finecast had the Tram engine, the Sentinel shunter, the Sentinel Railcar, and the Fowler 7F, on their stand. The future looks rosy for the old codgers like myself who enjoy building kits. Thane of fife Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 If I am correct these are body line only models, as when I spoke with Dave Ellis there were no plans for chassis in the immediate future. Any idea of prices ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ullypug Posted May 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2015 Some pics taken at Expo EM last weekend. Can't wait for the 16xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Aha!!! What chassis were these samples sitting on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 So what do we have there? 16XX, J70, Fowler 0-8-0, Sentinel 0_4_0 VBT, is that a H class 0-4-4T ?? Can't place the round cab roofed tank and is that long bunkered tank, lower left second photo, a L&Y 2-4-2T . Interesting developments for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The "H" is a SEF (ex-Wills) product anyway. Nothing to do with NuCast. The 16xx will be useful, and maybe we might see things like the "Modified Hall" make a comeback - the latter would be particularly opportune given the much-discussed "issues" with the Bachmann one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ullypug Posted May 19, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2015 The 16xx will be the first kit re-released and is only a few weeks away. It's getting a new chassis apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted May 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hi all, It will be interesting to compare examples of the 'New' Nucast Kits with the old ones.... It looks to me that the L&Y 2-4-2 has the long coal bunker - ie not the same as the Bachmann RTR model. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 AGW has a large range of chassis available ... just a thought! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 So what do we have there? 16XX, J70, Fowler 0-8-0, Sentinel 0_4_0 VBT, is that a H class 0-4-4T ?? Can't place the round cab roofed tank and is that long bunkered tank, lower left second photo, a L&Y 2-4-2T . Interesting developments for sure. Some of those are (as Horsetan has pointed out already) are existing Finecast kits. The 0-4-4T is actually a LCDR R1, and the round roofed tank engine is a South Eastern R class 0-6-0T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Max Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 There is also an LMS Fowler 7f 0.8.0 loco with the indication 'soon'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 There is also an LMS Fowler 7f 0.8.0 loco with the indication 'soon'?Indeed there is. The other one which I'm keeping a lookout for is the ex-K's Hawksworth 15xx. I've already started hacking a Lima 94xx body to see how close I can get to it; AGW produces basic milled frames for it but, as for cylinders / valve gear, you're on your own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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