eastwestdivide Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I like the apparent randomness of the rolling stock formations on the Appenzeller pics. Just throw a couple of carriages on, higgledy-piggledy, luggage van in the middle, all different sizes. For more Centovalli, but in the rain, a blatant plug for my trip there earlier this year: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/111836-eastwestdivides-italian-escape-via-the-black-forest/?p=2330864 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 5, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2016 Photos taken in the summer of 1988 in Switzerland today. They show Arth Goldau, where the lines from Luzern, Zurich and through Rotkreuz meet and then head south to the Gotthard. This batch were taken on the day I arrived in Switzerland for my 1988 holiday, armed with a Swiss Pass, timetable book and a number of index cards with trips I'd worked out over the previous few weeks at home written on them - in the event most of them worked out well. That year I stayed in a hotel right by the station (sadly it closed a few years later). Arth Goldau RBe4/4 1464 Arth Goldau to Luzern 28th July 88 C9629 Arth Goldau 28th July 88 C9630 Arth Goldau Ee3/3 16409 shunting 28th July 88 C9631 Arth Goldau Re4/4i 10004 Airolo to Luzern 28th July 88 C9637 Arth Goldau Arth Rigi Bahn BDHe2/4 13 and Bhe4/4 15 28th July 88 C9641 David 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Nice blog. Looked at all the pages - couldn't see the Centovalli train. This is a tram like light railway going from Domodossola in Italy to Locarno in Switzerland. And it is called centovalli as it goes through or crosses 100 valleys... I wanted to check that - but I lost count.... . I had the misfortune to travel on the Centovalli in the 1990s Misfortune because I couldn't see a thing! I had booked a round trip Stresa-Domodossola-Locarno-Stresa whilst on holiday on Maggiore but wasn't informed just how packed it can get. When we (me & missus) got off the mainline train in Domodossola with a 10 min transfer time little did we know that everybody else had been sitting on the tram for some time and we were the last to get there. We had a job even finding two seats together on the inside of vehicle and the only view was over other peoples heads. I understand the views can be quite spectacular but only have other peoples word for it. It was IMHO a wasted trip. Maybe I should have asked for my money back as the trip was sold "for it's spectacular scenery" which we never saw. Moral is: if you want to do the trip make sure you get there very early and sit on the right. (left if going Locarno - Domodossola) Keith EDIT Until 1990 the Centovalli (FART) formed part of Locarno's small tram network, running through the streets but after then ran a more direct route by tunnel to Locarno Hbf Edited November 5, 2016 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted November 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2016 Well - I was a bit unfair. I lived in Italy for 11 years - from 1999 to 2010 - and not too far away either (Casatenovo, approximately 30 km north of Milan). Therefore I could take a day off when the weather was nice and I used a Wednesday - so not too many people on the train. And I went to Domodossola by car which took me from Casatenovo approximately 1.5 hours. The reason was a double one - not only to look at Centovalli - but I wanted also to study the system change from the Swiss 15kV 16 2/3 Hz system to the Italian 3kV DC system as I was modelling at this time San Giorgio / St. Georg, a fictitious Border station between Austria and Italy. The line from Switzerland is 15kV until it reaches the station of Domodossola. Only there is the system change - approximately 20km from the Swiss border. I looked at my digital photos - and I have to say that I did not make not enough railway related pictures during the time I was living there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2016 Nice to see some more of your continental pictures Dave. Thanks Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Nice to see this thread revived. I hope you are able to post more of your superb European pics, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2016 Hi, Dave. I too am pleased with revival of this thread. It is superb to see the European railways in your magnificent photos. More please. Best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 6, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2016 Austria in 1991 today with trams at Igls. Igls is the terminus of a tram route from Innsbruck. There is a reversing loop at the station. Igls 4th Aug 91 C16144 Igls Innsbruck tram 51 4th Aug 91 C16146 Igls Innsbruck Mi6e Duwag tram 314th Aug 91 C16147 Igls Duwag Tram 314th Aug 91 C16148 Igls Mi6e Duwag tram 40 4th Aug 91 C16149 David 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 7, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2016 We are in Austria again. A few photos of the Achensee Bahn at Jenbach today. The Achensee Bahn is a metre gauge rack railway which runs from Jenbach to Seespitz on the Achensee. Jenbach Achensee Bahn loco shed 4th Aug 91 C16129 Jenbach Achenseebahn No 2 Jenbach 4th Aug 91 C16132 Jenbach Achenseebahn No 2 4th Aug 91 C16136 Jenbach Achenseebahn No 2 4th Aug 91 C16141 Jenbach Achenseebahn 4th Aug 91 C16143 David 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Back to Switzerland in 1988 today. After arriving at Zürich Airport I travelled by train to Arth Goldau. The first three photos were taken from the train on the journey. The two at ArthGoldau station were taken after I had checked in at the hotel and decided to take some photos at the station. As all the Gotthard traffic together with stoppers from Luzern and Zürich plus the Südostbahn use the station it is very busy. Zürich Enge Re4/4ii 11128 to Zürich 28th July 88 C9622 Zug from train right Re4/4ii 11114 left train to Luzern 28th July 88 C9627 Zug SBB Mk3 stock 28th July 88 C9628 Arth Goldau Re6/6 southbound freight 28th July 88 C9633 Arth Goldau Südostbahn BDe4/4 and trailer from Einsiedeln 28th July 88 C9634 David Edited November 8, 2016 by DaveF 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2016 Some more from Arth Goldau taken late in evening of 28th July 1988 plus two from around 08.30 the next morning while I was waiting to catch my first train of the day - in due course we shall find out where I was going. Arth Goldau Re4/4i 10005 Luzern to Airolo 28th July 88 C9638 Arth Goldau RBe4/4 1468 Zug to Goschenen 28th July 88 C9639 Arth Goldau Re6/6 11676 northbound freight 28th July 88 C9640 Arth Goldau Re4/4ii 11290 Romanshorn to Luzern 29th July 88 C9646 Arth Goldau Re6/6 11607 northbound freight 29th July 88 C9647 David 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Not sure if I like the strictly utilitarian looks of the first two! Do any of those types still exist?Don't recall seeing anything like them in Switzerland in recent years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like those first two photos with Re4/4i and RBe4/4. They have much more character than many later designs of trains. And I look forward to seeing where you are going from Arth Goldau. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 10, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Yesterday I said that in due course you would find out where I was going to on the train from Arth Goldau. I'm afraid you are going to have to wait a few days before you find out because today we are returning to Austria. There is one more photo at Jenbach, then we move to Wald am Arlberg, not far to the west of the summit of the Arlberg route and the Arlberg tunnel.. Wald am Arlberg is a very nice quiet country station where you can simply sit and watch the trains go by. Jenbach 4th Aug 89 C16131 Wald am Arlberg Class 1042 1042 611 2 to Bregenz 6th Aug 91 C16174 Wald am Arlberg Class 1044 1044 086 5 IC Zug Wien to Bregenz 6th Aug 91 C16176 Wald am Arlberg 6th Aug 91 C16177 Wald am Arlberg Class 1044 IC Zug Bregenz to Wien6th Aug 91 C16178 David Edited November 10, 2016 by DaveF 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2016 We'll stay in Austria today with a few more photos from Jenbach. Jenbach 4th Aug 89 C16134 Jenbach Achenseebahn Nos 2 and 34th Aug 91 C16135 Jenbach Achenseebahn No 34th Aug 91 C16137 Jenbach Achenseebahn No 3 4th Aug 91 C16140 Jenbach Achenseebahn 4th Aug 91 C16142 David 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 C16137 - thought you needed to straighten the horizon there for a moment! "This way up" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 12, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2016 An assortment of photos from Germany for today. Assmannshausen view north 19th Aug 91 C16518. Kehl 181220 Stasbourg to Offenburg 13th Aug 90 C15213 Loreley 20th Aug 91 C16522 Loreley opposite Class 103 southbound 2nd Aug 90 C14663 Nideggen dormitory coach for canoeing centre 1st Aug 90 C14636 David 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 13, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) A few days ago I said I'd post photos of where I went after I left ArthGoldau on my first full day in Switzerland in 1988. As the Gotthard lay to the south that seemed like a good line to sample first. I realised it would take more than one day to see it properly so decided to do it in stages. I caught a stopping train (all the stations still had a regular service then), passed through several stations, including Flüelen and got off at Erstfeld where the climb really starts. Erstfeld also has a loco depot and engine changes took place there, sometimes to add an extra loco to freights. Fluelen view south from ABt 29th July 88 C9654 The SBB produced a handy free booklet of loco classes and numbers, it also gave details of which trains were rostered for stock from which you could get a driver's eye view without actually going into the cab. I spent some time at Erstfeld, both at the station and a short walk to the south. Erstfeld ABt Luzern to Airolo 29th July 88 C9656 Erstfeld Re4/4i 10004 Luzern to Airolo 29th July 88 C9657 Erstfeld Ae/6 11511 northbound mail and parcels 29th July 88 C9670 Erstfeld Ae8/14 11852 preserved 29th July 88 C9675 More of Erstfeld tomorrow. David Edited November 13, 2016 by DaveF 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 A wonderful trip down memory lane with the 1980s shots of Switzerland. When locos and coaches were still green, and the most modern electric was an Re6/6. You are making me all nostalgic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 14, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2016 Some more trains at Erstfeld today. In 1988 some of SBB's locos had been painted red, most were still green. Erstfeld Re6/6 11615 Milano to Schaffhausen 29th July 88 C9659 Erstfeld Re6/6 11661 Chiasso to Hook of Holland 29th July 88 C9660 Erstfeld Re4/4ii 11359 to Chiasso and Locarno 29th July 88 C9664. Erstfeld Re4/4i 10005 Goschenen to Luzern 29th July 88 C9665 Erstfeld Re6/6 11625 southbound freight 29th July 88 C9671 David 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2016 We'll stay at Erstfeld for a little longer. Those who have been there will know how busy the Gotthard is, so far I am only using a few of the photos I took at each location. I ended up taking over 100 slides a day while in Switzerland. Erstfeld Ee3/3 16343 shunting sputnik and wagon 29th July 88 C9661 Erstfeld Re6/6 11662 northbound freight 29th July 88 C9663 Erstfeld Re4/4ii 11361 Chiasso to Schaffhausen 29th July 88 C9667 Erstfeld Re6/6 11606 northbound 29th July 88 C9672 Erstfeld Re4/4ii 11362 to Chiasso and Locarno 29th July 88 C9673 David 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 The Erstfeld pictures really hit the spot. When Swiss railways were not overrun by locomotives from other countries or private operators. And as for that train of Schlieren coaches.... lovely! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Today we head south from Erstfeld climbing all the time on the Gotthard line. We pass several small stations, which will feature later. Today we have a photo of Intschi, a small halt and Wassen, where the trains can be seen on three levels from the village. Intschi 29th July 88 C9680 Wassen 29th July 88 C9681 Wassen Re6/6 northbound 29th July 88 C9687 In the summer of 1987 the railway was washed away here , it was relaid on a sharp curve as seen here. When the photo was taken the orignal trackbed had been restored and the mast bases were in place . Wassen Re6/6 southbound 29th July 88 C9696 Wassen Re6/6 southbound 29th July 88 C9698 David Edited November 16, 2016 by DaveF 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) Some more photos taken at Wassen for today. They mainly feature the Re/6 Bo Bo Bo locos, 10600HP. Wassen Tmii 655 29th July 88 C9682 Wassen Re6/6 southbound 29th July 88 C9683 WassenRe6/6 southbound 29th July 88 C9689 Wassen Re6/6 northbound Tiziano 29th July 88 C9691 Wassen Re6/6 11686 northbound cars 29th July 88 C9694 Wassen Re6/6 11679 northbound 29th July 88 C9697 David Edited November 17, 2016 by DaveF 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2016 After quite a long time at Wassen (you have only seen a few of the photos) I returned to Erstfeld. Here are a few more photos taken there during the day. Erstfeld Re6/6 11678 Basel to Ventimiglia 29th July 88 C9662 Erstfeld Re6/6 11689 northbound sleepers 29th July 88 C9668 Erstfeld Ae6/6 11519 29th July 88 C9669 Erstfeld RBe4/4 1464 Zug to Goschenen 29th July 88 C9677 Erstfeld Ae8/14 11852 29th July 88 C9678 David 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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