Dave Holt Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I think I prefer the everything included, engineering approach. First I'm an engineer and like the technical aspects but secondly, you can always leave some details off for simplicity, if you wish, whereas it's much harder to create details from scratch. Unfortunately, the fully detailed route isn't too common in 4 mm scale, probably because everything is that much smaller. I wonder if the Finney A4 was scaled up from is 4 mm stuff? Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 ..... I wonder if the Finney A4 was scaled up from is 4 mm stuff? . There is a lot of commonality. Giveaway clue is the spacers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 Finished the painting and lining just a new nameplate to go At Telford for the guild show Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I would have thought you would have got better backscene for your model considering where you come from. Eastleigh is far more appropriate than Gloucestershire! Mind you P&O does look magnificent. I will have to get to see her soon but working as its really just up the road........ Keith HC, Dursley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Finished the painting and lining just a new nameplate to go p&0.jpg At Telford for the guild show Saturday. ....and missing an inside cylinder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Back from a great show at Telford - many more people than previous years I think. Star of the show was undoubtedly the Dapol Terrier - how on earth they, or the Chinese, can make such an exquisit model for £169 is beyond me. Had a chat with Dave from MOK and now best of friends I feal another blog coming on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 ....and missing an inside cylinder? If you look closely you will see its also missing its eccentric rod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Had a chat with Dave from MOK and now best of friends I feal another blog coming on! Q1.jpg Makes in to a fantastic model. As does all Dave's kits. I'm hoping the 9F will be ready at Reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Makes in to a fantastic model. As does all Dave's kits. I'm hoping the 9F will be ready at Reading. Asked Dave about this and he really did not want to commit. He would 'like' it to be out by December but no promises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 If you look closely you will see its also missing its eccentric rod. ...and LH connecting rod. It's been removed for some final cosmetic work and to have the lubrication felt pads fitted to the big end bearing. No need for those in a model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Progress has been very slow - not been too well over the last week or so. Anyway - Chassis painted and wheels/ motor installed and runs reasonably well. Masking up motion and when painted will test with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It all looks very neat and tidy. The colour inside the frames is an interesting debating point. According to the official BR painting specification, insides of frames were to be black - as per your model. However, there's every indication that they were actually painted red - ours are, and i assume that's based on remnants of the original paint when we acquired the loco from Barry. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 The colour inside the frames is an interesting debating point. According to the official BR painting specification, insides of frames were to be black - as per your model. However, there's every indication that they were actually painted red - ours are, and i assume that's based on remnants of the original paint when we acquired the loco from Barry. This is an interesting point and one that I have never been able to get to the bottom off. I have never seen a photograph of a Southern Loco with red inner frames. I showed the photo of P&O to club members and we discussed the fact that it also has red slide bar mountins. As far as we know GWR (sorry for swearing) had red inside the frames but Southern never did. From my own recolection I cannot remember seeing red frames, but then at the time I saw them they were so dirty anyway you probably would not notice. I do know that Southern paintshop instructions said the frames had to have a red oxide primer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I've looked through all the colour photos I can find of the locos in BR service and, as you say, it's all a bit inconclusive. Obviously, the photos don't show inside the frames, but the outside slide-bar brackets appear to vary. In most cases, the locos are dirty or the brackets aren't clearly visible but a few almost-ex-works shots of early re-builds seem to indicate black brackets. However, a couples of shots from 1963 and 1967 clearly show red brackets, so perhaps it was a later practice or just depended on the whim of the painters? I've asked our Chief Engineer about the colour of our frames and brackets when retrieved from Barry. I'll let you know his response. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Confirmed inside of frames and edges of outside slide-bar brackets were red when withdrawn by BR in 1964. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Sorry tried to upload video but I can't get it to work. The chassis is all wired up and runs fine. Moving back to finishing the body then paint. Getting there slowly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot6p Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Hi Dave, I think most loco's were painted red inside, to check for frame cracks as it would be easier to see. Len Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 Just in case anyone missed me I will be returning to the MN in the next few days. Unfortunatly I have not been modelling over the last three months or so due to illness and having to look after my wife who has just had a hiip op. Slowly getting better and will shortly get on with finishing the MN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 OK here we go. Thought I would finish tender first. Now painted and looks good. Will prime and paint buffer beam when I do the loco one. Shame to fill with coal really. However having fitted phospher bronze pick ups to the wheels I have discovered that there is a fair amount of shorting against the brake gear - so one step forward and two back. Will have to shorten the brake rodding - next job. Happy Christmas to those that have followed this blog. Hopefuly it will all be finished soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It looks a lot better than the Carriage and Wagon one I built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Definitely a candidate for part coaling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolish Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 After yesterday I think I better get on and finish it like the real thing. What a superb day. Congrats to all who achieved this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hi Doolish. If that was running round prior to taking the second train we can only have been feet apart when you took that! Pity we didn't meet. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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