Wherry Lines Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Whilst spending the afternoon preparing for another week of school, my maths planning was interupted by a loud, deep throb of a twin engined aircraft. I rushed to the windows to see what looked like a ww2 plane flying over. I've not idea what it was, but it was a similar design to the Avro Manchester or the North American B25, featuring twin rudder tail. Anyone have any idea what the aircraft was and why is was over east Suffolk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Not likely to be a Manchester, as none survived WW2, but it could be a Mitchell flying to or from Duxford; possibly going to an air show somewhere. Not sure what's on this weekend; Seething in Norfolk, or Cambrai in France are possibles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 There's a B-25 supposed to be at an event in Leicestershire today: http://www.thevictoryshow.co.uk/index.php/event-diary/aircraft/b-25-mitchell-bomber Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Possibly a Dakota. One flew over my house on the VJ Day commemoration a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 A Mitchell is a B-25, most likely what it was. Were there any markings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Possibly a Dakota. One flew over my house on the VJ Day commemoration a few weeks ago. DC3 Dakotas only have single fins as your photo shows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 45156 Posted September 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2015 I agree that it was probably a B25 Mitchell because of the twin fins. We had a Dakota in WW2 markings over our house yesterday at about 500 feet but I didn't have time to take a pic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wherry Lines Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 I thought about a B25, but are there any flying in the UK? There are/were two in the US. I know it is not a Manchester, as none survive, but it was a similar style. I could not see any markings due to the sun, but it appeared to be in a drab green or cam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 This may help, if in fact it was a B-25 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_B-25_Mitchells Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 There's a B-25 supposed to be at an event in Leicestershire today: http://www.thevictoryshow.co.uk/index.php/event-diary/aircraft/b-25-mitchell-bomber Del has most likely nailed it. Here's the full list of a/c expected at the event this weekend and the days they were due to appear.. http://www.thevictoryshow.co.uk/index.php/event-diary/aircraft . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I thought about a B25, but are there any flying in the UK? There are/were two in the US. This may help, if in fact it was a B-25 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_B-25_Mitchells Over 40 examples listed as in airworthy condition in the USA, plus one in Canada. Two flying in Europe (Netherlands and Austria). If it was over east Suffolk, it might have been the Dutch one flying to or from the airshow. b25-4429507-a.jpg . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wherry Lines Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Once again, the collective knowledge of rmweb surprises me. Having looked at images, it must've been a B25. It was flying in the right direction for a flight to the Netherlands from Leicestershire. Thanks for the help. It was bugging me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 It was circling low around Spanhoe Aerodrome to the east of Corby around 10.30 yesterday, I watched it for a few minutes before it disappeared out of site to the East but I'd no idea what it was. It looked as though it might have just taken off and as Spanhoe and nearby Deenethorpe are still operational fields, it could have been using one as as a staging post if it had flown in from Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2015 I doubt it there's no (Me) Bf110 flying as far as I know. Edit - yes only two known survivors and both in museums as static exhibits. This is likely what was seen flying to or from the victory show, as above a B25 http://www.thevictoryshow.co.uk/index.php/event-diary/aircraft/b-25-mitchell-bomber Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Like This? AR G 30.jpg Most Bf 110's still in Britain today lost their flying capabilities about 75 years ago... Edit: The one in RAF Hendon is a 1944 Nightfighter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Hi All, Nothing to do with this particular sighting (sorry) but this weekend just gone I saw something that I couldn't identify and don't know where to find any info so rather than start a new topic, it was; Twin (prop) engined, both set high in relation to body or wing and close together. WWII in appearance, Possibly with American markings. Flying due North or NNW between Manchester & Liverpool (over Leigh/Lowton area) c.12.30Hrs Sunday. Quite low, maybe less than 1000ft? At first I thought it was a seaplane but then I was not sure, sorry to be vaugue but I only saw it for a moment, against a bright sky too! Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2015 That description again matches a B25 as linked in my last post and as it was flying to Leicester not far away either relatively. They often fly past several events on one flight to maximise income. The wings are high in the centre of the body, Google 'B25 Mitchell' to see various images that might help you identify if it's the one you saw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Not a WW2 Aircraft but a twin with a twin tale is the Boeing V22 Osprey This is a Tilt Rotor and the size of the rotors/props are very distinctive but at a distance in normal flight mode it could appear as a normal aircraft. (Also very noisy, sounds a bit like a Chinook) Some are based at Mildenhall, Suffolk and two are currently involved with a TA exercise on the Isle of Wight hence may be seen in transit. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Thanks Paul, I've got to admit that now, it may just as well have been a B25 - as I can scarcely tell the difference between that and a 'Manchester' or even a 'Catalina' - in comparison to what I remember seeing. Not much of a witness I'm afraid. John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Thanks Paul, I've got to admit that now, it may just as well have been a B25 - as I can scarcely tell the difference between that and a 'Manchester' or even a 'Catalina' - in comparison to what I remember seeing. Not much of a witness I'm afraid. John. Every chance it was a Catalina, there was one flying at the Predtwick Air Show on Sunday. Could have been in the Lancashire area in transit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yep if there was a Cat displaying then that is possible. It's a long wing above the fuselage with engines fairly close in to the body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BR60103 Posted September 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2015 Guys: I have a boxful of recognition slides that was in my father's stuff. One of our club scanned them and is tidying them up. I plan to put the set in a museum. That was the only slide in the subset I have that came close to the description. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2015 We weren't having a dig about the slide and that's an interesting story too thanks. There's all sorts of stuff still being restored so I had to check on the airworthy status just in case one had been done. I'm interested and fairly regularly get some of the mags but can't claim to be bang up to date on what's restored or many of the less well known types Noticed on the bbc that a twin seat Spirfire had a forced landing yesterday after engine failure. Fortunately the pilot ok and although pretty extensive damage to the Spit I guess it's eventually restorable again seeing what's been done before. http://www.kentonline.co.uk/tenterden/news/spitfire-crash-lands-in-field-42807/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The reason why the Bf110* slide/post was probably marked as 'funny' was that the thread had already pretty well established that the aircraft of the OP was a B-25 Mitchell. If the slide had been posted before that it would've been a fair guess, notwithstanding the fact none are flying these days (& were a notable omission from the film 'Battle of Britain - along with many other Luftwaffe types!!) * Nerd alert; the 110 was built by Messerschmitt, but was designated "Bf", not "Me" 110. I would need to Google it to find out why, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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