RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2015 Both of the J11s were Darnall locos, but according to Rail Uk website they went to Gorton Works for disposal in 1962, which would tie in with some of the other photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRU Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Next four Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Top two are Horwich Works. PAINT SHOP is a bit of a giveaway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Easy ones first - the top two are Horwich Works! 52345 was one of the Crewe Works shunters after moving from Goole in 1953 until wdn in 1962 but I don't recognise it as a Crewe shed. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The pic of 52345 is on the scrapline at Bolton between withdrawal in Sept 1962 and scrapping in May 1963. The loco had arrived at Bolton from Crewe in 1959. I remember it well passing Crescent Rd. shed daily on my way to school - happy days - the shed that is! Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRU Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Next four Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2015 Outside shot..... Canklow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2015 63678 looks like Staveley GC shed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2015 92100 is Westhouses http://www.westhousesdepot.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRU Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 Four more. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 47250 looks like Westhouses, 47004 must be Canklow as it has no roof and Dept 33 is the Stratford Works shed. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Turnbull Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The last one, no. 33, is at Stratford. Chris Turnbull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The Ivatt Class 2 appears to be outside Crewe paint shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 47004 could be Hasland where it was a long term resident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 47004 could be Hasland where it was a long term resident. Sorry I meant Hasland not Canklow, it was Hasland that had the roof missing for years wasn't it? Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Sorry I meant Hasland not Canklow, it was Hasland that had the roof missing for years wasn't it? Tony Yes, it was Hasland which was sans-roof for many years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanchester Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Top two are Horwich Works. PAINT SHOP is a bit of a giveaway! A bit OT but isn't it amazing the difference a smokebox door, or a handrail, can make to the identities of two essentially similar locomotives, as for example those two L&Y 0-6-0STs - while modellers quite reasonably obsess about other more obscure features, I suggest that the very finest possible smokebox fronts are probably going to say more about both individual locomotive and period than almost anything else? I appreciate that is sort of 'Thomas the Tank Engine' faces on engines thinking,but it works? Two lever v Wheel and Lever v those little clips whose technical term momentarily escapes me - They are 'typical' of a period (for a particular class) and to the extent that some survived out of period, absolutely typical of individual locos. I'm thinking for example of the NER R class, LNER D20, and the quite different characteristic that a 'modern' smokebox door (which not all of them got) gives. (They all went a couple of months before I was born, so I can only judge from pictures but you know what I mean - the early, NER smokebox door, quite flat, with a wide face plate, looks definitely Edwardian - the later, dished door suddenly makes the same engine look positively contemoporary). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yes, it was Hasland which was sans-roof for many years. I thought it was Westhouses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I thought it was Westhouses Yes, at the end Westhouses was roofless too. But Hasland was a rectangular/square roundhouse (if that makes sense) and that's where 47004 is - it was always a Hasland engine in BR days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2015 Thanks for that Peter , I didn't realise that. I suppose it was lucky that Barrow Hill ended up on the ER or that may have also lost it's roof Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted November 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2015 A bit OT but isn't it amazing the difference a smokebox door, or a handrail, can make to the identities of two essentially similar locomotives, as for example those two L&Y 0-6-0STs - while modellers quite reasonably obsess about other more obscure features, I suggest that the very finest possible smokebox fronts are probably going to say more about both individual locomotive and period than almost anything else? I appreciate that is sort of 'Thomas the Tank Engine' faces on engines thinking,but it works? Two lever v Wheel and Lever v those little clips whose technical term momentarily escapes me - They are 'typical' of a period (for a particular class) and to the extent that some survived out of period, absolutely typical of individual locos. I'm thinking for example of the NER R class, LNER D20, and the quite different characteristic that a 'modern' smokebox door (which not all of them got) gives. (They all went a couple of months before I was born, so I can only judge from pictures but you know what I mean - the early, NER smokebox door, quite flat, with a wide face plate, looks definitely Edwardian - the later, dished door suddenly makes the same engine look positively contemoporary). I'm sure many of us "read" a loco's smokebox front with the same part of our brain with which we recognise human faces. Consequently tiny differences can quite change the apparent character of a loco. To me a machine such as a BR standard with the smokebox number in the "proper" place looks alert and purposeful. Those with numberplates in the middle of the door look rather gormless - one reason, perhaps, why I find it hard to feel much affection for the Midland or the L&Y. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRU Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Thankyou everybody for your replies. My week long absence has been caused by a tree branch bringing down my phone line last week, just minutes after I posted the photo`s. Just got the line repaired this morning. It will not happen again because I have felled the tree. So here we go again with four more. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2015 61950 is stored/withdrawn, which would suggest early 1963. Its last shed was Doncaster. The roof vents on 61173 also look like part of Doncaster shed but probably weren't unique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Almost certainly Doncaster Carr loco, all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 61950 is stored/withdrawn, which would suggest early 1963. Its last shed was Doncaster. The roof vents on 61173 also look like part of Doncaster shed but probably weren't unique. And while not definite proof, the snow on the ground would point to early 1963 as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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