Hroth Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I understand that Slow Train was written in response to an article in the Grauniad (Probably still the Manchester Guardian at that time) listing railway stations and lines that were at risk from closure at the beginning of the Beeching era. Some survived, others didn't. But its a wonderfully evocative song of the era when the railway network was slashed thanks to political spite and personal greed. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hroth said: I understand that Slow Train was written in response to an article in the Grauniad (Probably still the Manchester Guardian at that time) listing railway stations and lines that were at risk from closure at the beginning of the Beeching era. Some survived, others didn't. But its a wonderfully evocative song of the era when the railway network was slashed thanks to political spite and personal greed. yes, Wikipedia says it was written in July 1963, only a few months after The Reshaping of British Railways was published. The stations mentioned would all still have been open at the time. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, drmditch said: Re 'The Slow Train'. I understand that Chester-Le-Street is still accessible by train. Not sure how many trains on the ECML stop there, but there is still a service .... Chester-le-Street is still accessible by train but sadly Chester-le-Track ceased trading in 2018. They used to animate the booking office as a haven of enthusiastic activity for booking any kind of rail journey . I used to recommend Chester-le-Track to everyone - they were a delight to deal with by phone. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I only just noticed. Page 800! Break out the prosecco! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, Hroth said: I only just noticed. Page 800! Break out the prosecco! Crikey! And well done everyone! I have had little modelling time, what with one thing and another, but today I have made a start on the raised track-bed for the scenic test track. I hope that, by the time we reach 1,000, there will be some real progress to observe with CA! 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Hroth said: I only just noticed. Page 800! Break out the prosecco! I couldn't find a photo of No. 800 itself but given the pace at which this thread advances No. 808 won't be that inappropriate: The D299 wagon in the background gives us a cheering wave too - not unused to large numbers! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 Well, here's an 800. I hope she fits on the page! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) As a Western Region ex-spotter this is the only 800 for me: British Railways - BR Class 42 B-B diese -hydraulic locomotive Nr. D800 "Sir Brian Robertson" (BR Swindon, 1958) by Historical Railway Images, on Flickr although I started too late to see 800 himself or 801, 802 or 830 Page from my Ian Allan spotter's book from c.1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Page from my Ian Allan spotter's book from c.1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Edited September 15, 2019 by Andy Kirkham 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 Whilst each of those is handsome enough in its brutish way, mine's the only pre-Grouping one (so far)! Looking around Norfolk, I see that the Great Eastern's No. 800 was a T.W. Worsdell Y14 Class 0-6-0 - surely one must show up at CA one day? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 Black is the only colour for a BR diesel. Once they got silly ideas about painting them other colours it all went their heads and look what happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Whilst each of those is handsome enough in its brutish way, mine's the only pre-Grouping one (so far)! Looking around Norfolk, I see that the Great Eastern's No. 800 was a T.W. Worsdell Y14 Class 0-6-0 - surely one must show up at CA one day? Not a problem Mr Compound. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: Whilst each of those is handsome enough in its brutish way, mine's the only pre-Grouping one (so far)! Surely anything irish is pregrouping unless we're talking NCC, CDRJC or DN&G.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: I see that the Great Eastern's No. 800 was a T.W. Worsdell Y14 Class 0-6-0 - surely one must show up at CA one day? 33 minutes ago, Annie said: Not a problem Mr Compound. Looks rather Modern for CA? 2 hours ago, Edwardian said: I hope that, by the time we reach 1,000, there will be some real progress to observe with CA! It is said that it's the journey and not the destination that counts (though ticket inspectors often quibble about that one). No doubt the glorious result of this particular journey will be stunning, but there's lots to amuse,perplex and inform along the way, with curious sidetracks to explore before continuing our rambling journey. Per ardua ad astra! BTW, the 1,000th page is only 200 more away. We hit page 600 on the Winter Solstice last year so at the present rate we'll get to Page 1,000 somewhere around the Summer Solstice next year. I'm looking forward to seeing how CA has developed by then!!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: Whilst each of those is handsome enough in its brutish way, mine's the only pre-Grouping one (so far)! Casting around sites in West Norfolk, I happened across this after a quick click or two in the dis-used M&GN station at ... Fakenham! dh 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, brack said: Surely anything irish is pregrouping unless we're talking NCC, CDRJC or DN&G.... Maeve* is a Great Southern locomotive - post the Irish grouping of 1925, when all the railways within the Free State were merged. *Please excuse my anglic. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 A grouping with only one group? Whilst continuing with this pedantry can I apologise to any hibernian pedants offended by my omission of the fishguard and rosslare railway, which was of course partly included in the grouping due to being 50% owned by the GWR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, brack said: A grouping with only one group? Well, call it a merger if you wish. Those lines wholly within the North - which fortuitously included all the LMS-owned lines* - and those straddling the border - of which the Great Northern was the chief - remained independent. *With the exception of the County Donegal, which was joint LMS/Great Northern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Annie said: Black is the only colour for a BR diesel. Once they got silly ideas about painting them other colours it all went their heads and look what happened. Quite! I learnt to distrust them at an early age .... 1 hour ago, brack said: Whilst continuing with this pedantry can I apologise to any hibernian pedants offended by my omission of the fishguard and rosslare railway, which was of course partly included in the grouping due to being 50% owned by the GWR. I maintain an interest in the Great Western in the 1930s. I rather like the fact that I only model pre-Grouping railways! 2 hours ago, Hroth said: It is said that it's the journey and not the destination that counts In our case ..... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 The unusual thing is that the aforementioned fishguard & rosslare still exists, but the GWR's shareholding was passed through BR to stena, so although the railways in the republic were nationalised that particular line still isn't (wholly) state owned. Anyway, something far more attractive than those featured above, and definitely pre 1923: Hunslet works no. 800 (Ok this is actually a photo of no. 44 which was wn 1203 of 1919, but No. 28/ wn 800 of 1903 was identical. No. 85 on the W&L and no.81 which survives in freetown are of course later examples of the same design). 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On the colour of diesels: the GWR painted their one that looked pretty much like the one from “Duck and the Diesel” standard green, with lining, and a fancy brass numberplate. If that isn’t enough to inflate the ego of an engine, I don’t know what is. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 If we're going to explore the Dark Side.... There's nothing wrong with diesels, and nothing wrong with them being any colour the Company wants! GWR diesel railcars were painted in standard Chocolate and Cream passenger stock livery, while Ivatt painted HIS diesel in decent LNWR black. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_D16/1 But I like diesels in Green, before the elves started wanting to paint larger and larger Yellow patches on the front of them! Anyhow, Rudolf Diesel was certainly a pre-grouping person..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Diesel 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 The black and silver is a beautiful livery. A few years back there were a few photoshopped images of other classes in it and it suited every one. Eg. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) "Rudolf Diesel was certainly a pre-grouping person....." And, a small number of railcars and locomotives with Diesel engines were in service before The Grouping, although almost certainly none in Britain. The "almost" being because there is one possible candidate, a very mysterious 2'6" gauge loco built for The Admiralty which, according to some accounts, had a Diesel engine. PS: That loco would look quite good in that livery, if the silver stripe hadn't been applied too low down, messing-up the proportions (IMO). Edited September 15, 2019 by Nearholmer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 This one? Probably not a diesel engine as we know it, but it would perhaps have run on diesel? 1903. Unless you have military involvement in CA's alternate geography I'm not sure how youd get away with one.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, brack said: The black and silver is a beautiful livery. A few years back there were a few photoshopped images of other classes in it and it suited every one. Ideed. It looked particularly good when photoshopped onto Bush Type 2s and Western Diesel Hydraulics.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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