Hroth Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, drmditch said: My understanding was that the viol family of instruments were normally bowed. Bowed, plucked or, in the case of manuscript instructions by the 16/17C composer Tobais Hume "thumped"... 36 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: "A little bit of bread and no cheese". Darth Gove believes that this is only to be expected in extreme circumstances... My mother took the Millennium scare to heart and stocked up on all sorts of things, perhaps we ought to start stocking up too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, drmditch said: However, if readers will excuse a random enquiry to save searching on-line, does anyone know of a kit available for an NER horsebox? Danny Pinnock did one - quite a late diagram IIRC - but they command a premium on the Bay of Fleas. However, it seems that a 3D-print equivalent, a similar diagram, is on its way: Link 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Worth writing to Dan: he has reissued all his horseboxes relatively recently and may well have stock. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, jwealleans said: Worth writing to Dan: he has reissued all his horseboxes relatively recently and may well have stock. Thanks, Jonathan. I keep meaning to write to him about GE stuff, but I have lost his address! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, jwealleans said: Worth writing to Dan: may well have stock. Oh, has he moved into 3D printed horses? According to my treasured copy of the D&S Spring 2005 catalogue, he did the following horseboxes: GCR ex-LDEC GCR Diagram unspecified NBR D110 LNER standard D5 LNER standard D5 GER diagram unspecified NER D67 NER D191 GNR diagram unspecified GNR "early" GWR N8 GWR N4 GWR N11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 This is the indispensable link for all those supplier addresses you need to find. When Danny first started rerunning his 4mm kits, the LNER group horseboxes were the first things he did. I may have had an influence on that..... he has done the constituent ones again as he's been round each company issuing NPCCS periodically. There hasn't been a 4mm list for some time, but he's had family preoccupations which have been far more important. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 I have this recurring nightmare .... "Just sign the Order in Council, Majesty ..." 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, jwealleans said: This is the indispensable link for all those supplier addresses you need to find. When Danny first started rerunning his 4mm kits, the LNER group horseboxes were the first things he did. I may have had an influence on that..... he has done the constituent ones again as he's been round each company issuing NPCCS periodically. There hasn't been a 4mm list for some time, but he's had family preoccupations which have been far more important. That is very helpful indeed, Jonathan, thanks. I shall write today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 Ah yes, you've reminded me which Privy Councillor went to Balmoral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Ah yes, you've reminded me which Privy Councillor went to Balmoral. Sir Slouchabout.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 Hilda is quite definite about how a true artist holds their instrument, you’ll be glad to hear. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Northroader said: Hilda is quite definite about how a true artist holds their instrument, you’ll be glad to hear. The first one to make a comment along the lines of "that's a sight for saw eyes" will get a slap .... oh, b*gger! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Edwardian said: The first one to make a comment along the lines of "that's a sight for saw eyes" will get a slap .... oh, b*gger! I saw that coming, so I didn't bother. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Next it'll be Sir Thomas Beecham and the lady 'cellist Edited September 12, 2019 by Edwardian spelling! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Edwardian said: Next it'll be Sir Thomas Beacham and the lady 'cellist ...or his musing on the name of a musician called Cunnis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2019 10 hours ago, St Enodoc said: I now have a strange image in my head of someone playing a cello while holding it like a guitar. Well I did have to hold it properly during the lesson and use the bow but I may have held it like a guitar and plucked it at the end of practice sessions when no one was looking. Don 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Edwardian said: While we're on the subject of big wigs, under this one the thought occurs "all my birds are trying to fly back!" While on the subject of birds, this heavily protected species has now finally been seen .... 5 hours ago, Edwardian said: While on the subject of birds, this heavily protected species has now finally been seen .... 4 hours ago, Compound2632 said: "A little bit of bread and no cheese". 4 hours ago, Edwardian said: So it's reported Well you can say the words to its song. The song in a run of short notes followed by a longer one (which the word cheese is meant to represent). We had them in the Forest of Dean and we have them aound here (West Somerset). In my experience they like Hedgerows in rural places rather than urban back gardens but are not that numerous. On the other hand little goldfinches who used to seldom be seen in gardens are now queing on the electric wires or the shrubs for a turn on the bird feeder. Don 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Donw said: Well you can say the words to its song. The song in a run of short notes followed by a longer one (which the word cheese is meant to represent). We had them in the Forest of Dean and we have them aound here (West Somerset). In my experience they like Hedgerows in rural places rather than urban back gardens but are not that numerous. On the other hand little goldfinches who used to seldom be seen in gardens are now queing on the electric wires or the shrubs for a turn on the bird feeder. Don Yes, the BBC version of today, "a lot of congestion and no pills", doesn't really scan. But these are odd times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Donw said: Well I did have to hold it properly during the lesson and use the bow but I may have held it like a guitar and plucked it at the end of practice sessions when no one was looking. Don @ 41 seconds common Naval practice it appears in Nelsons Navy Nick 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Donw said: the word cheese The moon we were promised was going to be 100% English Cheddar. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: The moon we were promised was going to be 100% English Cheddar. I suspect we'll find it's only a paper moon .... We won't see stars anymore, that's for sure, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, nick_bastable said: @ 41 seconds common Naval practice it appears in Nelsons Navy Nick It's all allowed but when learning they are keen you learn bowing techniques first. In an Orchestra plucking would normally be done with the cello vertical as usual otherwise you would be endangering the musician either side. You will note he did not stop to retract the end pin (or was it filmed in sections?). Of course its relative the double bass is normally plucked and bowing is only ocassionally used. Don 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Donw said: Of course its relative the double bass is normally plucked and bowing is only ocassionally used. Don't know about that. Here's an easy tune played with the bow - evidently a beginner... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, Donw said: Of course its relative the double bass is normally plucked and bowing is only ocassionally used. I would love to watch (from a safe distance) you cope with the onslaught from my daughter for making both those statements (calling it a relative of the cello is a seriously bad move - ask me how I know!) But ”normally plucked”? Oh dear... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 Try her with drumsticks.... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KfFBdViZHzk 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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