Miss Prism Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 There is only one 'kink', at the set. The rail is then straight for the length of planing. The rail then bends gradually away after the end of planing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Now, as the saying goes, for something completely different! As one of the projects I have decided to do (and will probably completely regret it when I comprehend the overall size) for the 'BIG' project, I'm seeking some help! The attached clocks are visible at Newcastle (left) and York (right). Im concerned specifically with the clocks, rather than the method of support, but can anyone suggest anywhere, or anyhow, that I can create these in 7mm, preferably working (although if its way too complicated I'll forgo that bit!) I doubt such types of clocks physically exist in 7mm - so at the base level it might be a make out of wood, and put a computer printed face on it, but before I went down that route, I thought I'd see if anyone had any brainwaves as to what may exist out there that I haven't come across.... Any suggestions are welcome. Rich Talking of station clocks, have you seen this masterpiece http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/33141-lime-street-station/?p=2516079 Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted December 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Talking of station clocks, have you seen this masterpiece http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/33141-lime-street-station/?p=2516079 Martyn. Thanks Martyn, Wow doesn't cover it ... Layouts like that really should a 'Bloody marvellous/out of this world/10000% like' button! I've kept waiting Lime Street on and off but had missed those pics. Totally Awestruck. Everybody reading this should go look at that link for inspiration! Rich 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Doesn't get much better than that layout Rich although as far as I'm aware it's not DCC, I'd miss the sound or am I just being picky now Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted December 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 Doesn't get much better than that layout Rich although as far as I'm aware it's not DCC, I'd miss the sound or am I just being picky now Cheers I'd miss it on diesels. I'm not sure about steam yet ... I'm yet to be convinced. My little Minerva Peckett has sound and that is superb potting around a few sidings, but how a Black 5 or Brit would sound I'm not sure. Diesels are very repetitive so the short sound samples on DCC chips don't matter. Steam locos have so many varients on their sound, related to speed, visual representation of wheel revolutions etc, I'm not just not personally sure DCC sound is there for the steam era yet ... Although I'll happily be proved wrong! Other than that .... your just being picky Rich 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) Thanks Martyn, Wow doesn't cover it ... Layouts like that really should a 'Bloody marvellous/out of this world/10000% like' button! I've kept waiting Lime Street on and off but had missed those pics. Totally Awestruck. Everybody reading this should go look at that link for inspiration! Rich Inspirational ....yes,and also VERY intimidating at the same time........ It took seven years alone to plan,design and build the main buildings!. Great link Martyn,Thanks. Brian. Edited December 17, 2016 by Tove 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 I'd miss it on diesels. I'm not sure about steam yet ... I'm yet to be convinced. My little Minerva Peckett has sound and that is superb potting around a few sidings, but how a Black 5 or Brit would sound I'm not sure. Diesels are very repetitive so the short sound samples on DCC chips don't matter. Steam locos have so many varients on their sound, related to speed, visual representation of wheel revolutions etc, I'm not just not personally sure DCC sound is there for the steam era yet ... Although I'll happily be proved wrong! Other than that .... your just being picky Rich Not really heard many dcc steam locos an the ones I have where just on YouTube so you don't really get the same effect. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted December 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 Well family stuff on the run-up to Christmas seems to be taking up time, so little done this week on modelling. I did get an hour this afternoon to do a little more on the brake van however as the lost wax lamps have arrived from Slaters. Now, there are two lamps in each pack, what they don't tell you is one is a side lamp and one is a rear lamp! Fortunately, I acquired two packs incase I broke one, so the two side lamps have had their lenses drilled out and been painted white. Next task is to try and feed some fibre optic cable through the sides of them, which will run back to a red LED encased in a black box in one corner of the brake van. The aim being to get the for and aft glow on the lamps. Now I really should know this having done some training as a goods guard on a heritage line, but am I correct in thinking that brake van side lamps show a red aspect front and back?? Its been a few years and I cannot remember! Rich 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) Now I really should know this having done some training as a goods guard on a heritage line, but am I correct in thinking that brake van side lamps show a red aspect front and back?? Its been a few years and I cannot remember! Rich I'm pretty sure you are correct Rich, the fore and aft being, the fore, so the driver can see his train is complete from the front, and aft for the signalman to see the complete train after passing his box. I will stand corrected of course, as I'm no aficionado. Jinty Edited December 17, 2016 by Jintyman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted December 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2016 Evening all, well a quick update before the festive period begins (probably means more updates than normal haha!) I've not managed to make any further progress on soldering the pointwork connections yet, nor have I had change to progress the final parts of the NE brake van construction. However, the sound decoder for my Class 08 (thanks to Paul Chetter) has arrived, and Jintyman's superb speakers have landed as well - so one of the tasks on Thursday was fitting said items to the first of the 08s. I'll be totally honest and say my initial reaction wasn't as positive as I was expecting, but I think that is more down to my expectations than anything. A quick overview, for those attempting adding a DCC decoder or sound to the Dapol 08 - it really is easy, although there is a small amount of soldering (for which you do need a steady hand and care) if your going to add sound, but it is simple. Dapol have made this super easy, and I can only hope that Heljan take not of what they have done. I admit that one of the easy parts of this is that the 08 motor draws very little amps, and hence its is possible to use a OO gauge decoder with the 21-pin harness. The top of the body pulls off with some gentle and careful movement. If your worrying about this, don't just take it easy and don't force anything. With the top off you'll see the locos circuit board and a row of 21-pins. Once the top is lifted off, there will be a DC jumper located on the 21-pin (see above the loco on my work board in this view) hold it gently at the sides and very carefully rock it backwards and forwards with very little force, gently trying to lift it each time - it will soon move and just lift straight off. If your just adding the decoder and no sound, it is a simple case of pushing the new decoder down onto the pins, but see the notes below. For me, I had one of David's superb base round speakers, to fit. This needs the two retaining screws on the circuit board to be removed, allowing the board to be slid towards the cab and the speak to be dropped in. A lot easier than it sounds. Normally the cables from the speakers should be cut down a bit, but on this occasion I left them. With the speaker located, the circuit board can be put back in place. Note that next to the white plug, neared the camera are two silver connections marked SPK. It is to these that the cables are soldered. Not knowing which was + and -, I followed the picture on David's instructions and soldered the red cable nearest the front, and the black nearest the cab. Then it is is just a case of adding the decoder. You will notice on the above picture, the 21-pin jumper is missing a pin at the bottom most left socket. This is how you know the decoder is the right way up and correct way around. Match that missing pin with the missing hole in the decoder and the rest of the pins should gently slide into the decoder socket. Replace the lid and run! Worth remembering that by default all Zimo decoders (in fact I think all DCC decoders) are pre-programmed to address 3. The loco sounds superb, and the base speak from Minty Jinty is really recommended - thanks David. The little video clip below will allow you to judge for yourself - the first 08 (08227) is a Bachmann Brass model fitted about four or five years ago with an SWD LokSound decoder. The Dapol model (08202) is fitted with Paul Chetter's (Pauliebanger) Protodrive Zimo chip, which are only available direct from Paul for just under £100 including postage. I must apologise for the clutter in the background as well. I'm going to sort this test layout out over the next few months! http://vimeo.com/196961259 I mentioned earlier that it didn't quite meet my expectations. This is no reflection on David's speak, nor on Paul's sound project which is really superb - the audio is crisp and sharp, and very responsive. To me, the loco lacks control, but that could just be needing to get use to a different type of operation. On the test layout that the above video is filmed on, none of the locos really get above 20-25 on the Digitrax controller (the steps on DT go 00-99, although the decoders are all on 128 speed steps), as a result things like the Bachmann 08 start creeping at 01, are moving by 05, and running around 10-15mph by steps 14-17. Hence for shunting wagons, there is a very precise control. The Protodrive decoder is totally different. The brakes release at 01, it starts to creep (very very slowly, superb running and control of the motor by the decoder) around 10-12 and it is moving slowly by 28-30, and really starting to pick up a little speed by 60-70. But on the 08s I've had the ability to ride on, the electric 'whine' of the motors does come until 10-12mph, although I could be wrong - but because of the value before the model moves its coming in way before that speed and makes it sound like the sound is ahead of the speed. I have emailed Paul, and he's been great, and we're going to have another conversation after Christmas about changing a couple of CV values. But like I said, it could be me that needs to get use to it - its just that it makes shunting difficult, because there is no precise control now - its easy on the Digitrax to move the dial +/- 10 clicks, a lot harder to move it +/- 50 clicks in one go. I do like the responsive drive, that when you shut off it coasts to a stand, or you have to use F2 to brake - thats wonderful! Im very impressed with the audio however, beats the SWD chip by miles, and has reinforced my view that the Zimo chips are a lot more configurable, controllable and responsive than LokSound. Im sure we'll get it sorted after Christmas. Other News Another loco for the forthcoming 'BIG' Arksey Project has arrived, in the form of an all-over green-liveried Class 08, from Dapol. This one will be outbased at Arksey Sidings for shunting and tripping vehicles into the adjacent freight depot. I went for an all-over green with no yellow ends thinking it would be a bit different. I do like it! All that is left is to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and hope that you have a safe and festive time. If any of you are out for a drink over the holidays - remember to leave the car at home. I'll leave you with a snap shot that I look of one of the new 08s stabled in the yard as I left last night ... not great as it was between wagons, but hey, better than reindeer! Rich 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Great pics and info Rich, Pauls really are the best and with Jinty's Speakers there awesome. Merry Christmas Rich to you and your Family and have a Happy 2017. Edited December 24, 2016 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 These 08`s are addictive are`nt they mate!. I`ve taken delivery of another one,just need to decide what i`ll turn it in to now...... Best wishes for Xmas, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted December 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2016 Great pics and info Rich, Pauls really are the best and with Jinty's Speakers there awesome. Merry Christmas Rich to you and your Family and have a Happy 2017. Thanks Andy. Yes, I agree the matching of Paul's audio and Jinty's speakers are superb! I just need to master driving it, but we'll sort it! These 08`s are addictive are`nt they mate!. I`ve taken delivery of another one,just need to decide what i`ll turn it in to now...... Best wishes for Xmas, Brian. Hi Brian, Oh very! Now let me see .. I've got five Dapol ones and a Bachmann - yup very addictive!!! One will stay as 08202, the other two blue ones are going to be modified so one has the double arrows on the side boxes, rather than the side doors, and the other will become a Tinsley unofficial namer. Of the remaining two, one is the green one which will stay green for Arksey, the other is currently away being repainted - although as Steve's workload at Railtec is heavy to say the least, I'm thinking that rather than the RFS livery that was planned - it might become a Railfreight Grey example instead. Have a great Christmas! Rich 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughan45 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) These 08`s are addictive are`nt they mate!. I`ve taken delivery of another one,just need to decide what i`ll turn it in to now...... Best wishes for Xmas, Brian. Agreed, I have two black ones and have two different green ones (late crest with stripes & early crest with stripes - DCC Supplies limited edition) on the way. My only comment is avoid the Dapol sound fitted versions and do your own thing as I was very disappointed with the Dapol sound project. Fitting sound is easy and you end up with a better overall package for less money! Happy Christmas, Vaughan Edited December 24, 2016 by vaughan45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I now feel quite inadequate, I only have a Blue one / 202 and the Black one, and my Green one with Wasp Stripes hasn't arrived yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Hi Rich, Thanks for the kind comments on the speakers, it is appreciated, and glad you like the sound. Some are mixing and matching the speakers with the Paul Chetter ones to give variety in sounds from the same project but a different tone in the sound. I also believe that Paul is working on a slightly different 08 project which will give some extra variety too. Have a great Christmas and a prosperous New Year to you and yours. Jinty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted December 31, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2016 Afternoon all, hope everyone had a good Christmas. Pottered along with a few little topics, but not achieved much. Have just about nailed the track plan for the 'BIG' project, more about that in the coming months tho. I've spent many hours looking around Flickr and books for inspiration on a variety of topics and while looking for wagon works images, came across one picture of Toton Wagon Works in Oct 1977 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/5549688389) that would make a superb diorama! Looking at that shot, led me to the album that its in which is pure nostalgia and well worth a look for anyone. For the industrial or steam guys, scroll down the album selection a bit, but 20s, 25s, 37s, 45s, 46s and even the odd 31 mainly in the 1970s/1980s - lovely ... well worth a look if your board this evening! https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/albums/72157626200525911 So with little else to report at this point, I'll take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy New Year - and here's to plenty of productive modelling time! All the best Rich 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I've spent many hours looking around Flickr and books for inspiration on a variety of topics and while looking for wagon works images, came across one picture of Toton Wagon Works in Oct 1977 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/5549688389) that would make a superb diorama! So with little else to report at this point, I'll take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy New Year - and here's to plenty of productive modelling time! All the best Rich Not another project Rich..!! Happy new year pal.... Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted December 31, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2016 Not another project Rich..!! Happy new year pal.... Brian. Hi Brian, All part and parcel of the 'BIG' one! There's a space, that is around 2-3 foot wide, and 10-12foot long, in the middle of the loft, that I was thinking of a goods warehouse style approach, but now thinking that a wagon repair shop would probably suit better, and allow different wagons and some shunting moves to take place! Hence the research! Happy New Year! Rich 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Interesting idea,a wagon work`s. Would certainly give you a lot of option`s for shunting or just for pushing a few wagon`s about when bored. So obviously the brake van kit has wetted your appitite for more then..! Brian. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted December 31, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2016 Interesting idea,a wagon work`s. Would certainly give you a lot of option`s for shunting or just for pushing a few wagon`s about when bored. So obviously the brake van kit has wetted your appitite for more then..! Brian. Lol! It has! I've a Slaters box van sat here next .... and might even take the plunge and acquire a PRMRP BDA kit - then I can follow your instructions when you build yours! Can also see a rake of Parkside 21-ton hoppers on the horizon as well! So the wagon works could be fully utilised! To be honest, Im thinking of a way that will allow me to get something up and running quickly, while I'm laying the track for the rest of the 'BIG' layout which will take some time to build and wire up, as its over two levels. The wagon works idea I thought could be self-contained with a main line connection and fairly compact. I saw a picture of Shildon with what appears to be a level crossing across the middle of the works which brought a few other ideas too! York Wagon Works seems to be interesting, with two/three road buildings and a line running between them - gives the option for a red 08500 'Thomas' shunter as well!! Another reason is that id like to be able to replicate the old style ex-works shots for locos and wagons, i.e. one standard place that a shot can be taken with a decent background. Like the lawn at Doncaster Works - that kind of thing. As especially if I get into building kits, then it would be nice to do an ex-works style 'new build' picture. Rich 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 As you say you want to get things going quickly I can recommend Lionheart RTR. I bought a PO and Oil Tank wagon and I'm very impressed. The level of detail out of the box is better than the Parkside and Slaters kits I've built. I don't know for sure but I sense that Dapol's pending van and open wagons have Lionheart DNA. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted January 1, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2017 As you say you want to get things going quickly I can recommend Lionheart RTR. I bought a PO and Oil Tank wagon and I'm very impressed. The level of detail out of the box is better than the Parkside and Slaters kits I've built. I don't know for sure but I sense that Dapol's pending van and open wagons have Lionheart DNA. John Hi John, Thanks - Happy New Year to you. Thats a very good point - I've got a Lionheart Shell/BP tank here, and one of their mineral wagon's and both are superb. Was hoping to acquire a rake of 12 of the Tower commissioned minerals, but there were other priorities on the cash at the time. I'll keep an eye out on the Dapol offerings tho. Looking ahead to 2017 I think having finally settled on the background, the idea, and given a lot of through to the time period and etc, for the 'BIG' project, 2017 is going to see some departures from the fleet. I can see a couple of the wagons going to keep everything in the 1980s period - the Western and Hymek are also likely to be departing for pastures should the right offer come up, and my 1400 auto tank will finally be bidding farewell. Hopefully there will be an influx of '37s' and '45s' during the year, the 08s will be renumbered, my 'special' Class 60 should arrive back during February, and hopefully the track work that I've been building will get laid in the next few weeks, on the boards built last summer for Marsh Lane Depot. Im just chomping at the bit to get started on Arksey, just don't want to open a thread until there is progress around. Work on the Tyne & Wear Metrocar is progressing well, so that will hopefully put in an appearance during the year too! Busy times, plenty going on and without forgetting the 'chipping' in by friends on here, and following the progress of Andy, Jinty, Paul, Tove and everyone else on rmWeb with their own layouts, there's plenty to look forward to! Hope everyone has had an enjoyable and safe evening. Happy New Year all Rich 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Great post above Rich, bit like me last night, mentally sorting priorities, and also like you a Stock review. All the best for 2017 mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Morn`in Rich, Sound`s like you`ve been working overtime with the idea`s for the 'Big' layout and very good they sound too.... But think i`ve missed something (or a post?) somewhere!. I thought 'Arksey' was going to be a 50`s - 60`s layout with kettles & diesel`s?,now i read that the 80`s are back on the table!. Please put an old fella`s mind at rest...... Lol! It has! I've a Slaters box van sat here next .... and might even take the plunge and acquire a PRMRP BDA kit - then I can follow your instructions when you build yours! Rich That could be danerous mate,as i`ve already made a boo boo on my 'Grampus' wagons .. only a little one mind you,but still made one all the same!. Looking forward to great things coming from the 'flat land`s' in 2017..... Cheers mate, Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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