RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 I would love to see this tutorial, Please can you send it to me, I need to make transportable opentop naseboards. I am not climbing into a cardboard box with all my tools and be subjected to a ride with Parcel farce in order to deliver said tutorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 I am not climbing into a cardboard box with all my tools and be subjected to a ride with Parcel farce in order to deliver said tutorial. Not even if I promise to take you to the original Legoland in Billund Denmark, it is only 40 minutes away from where I live? Seriously though, how do you make transportable open frame baseboards? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I don't think this is a question entirely confined to railway modelling, unless the bits of wood herein were related to baseboard construction: "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." (The next verse is, IIRC, something about 4mm/ft scale wheel and track standards) K So what you're saying is that, the beam in ones own eye is obstructing your clear view of what railway modelling is all about. Having removed it, and being able to see clearly the beauty and perfection of P4 and the counting of rivets, you may then do all you can to assist, encourage, and if necessary force, the clearing of motes from other peoples eyes, so they too see the light, throw their OO and OO-SF stuff in the bin, and join you on the path of P4 enlightenment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Interesting what differing levels of authenticity are acceptable or unacceptable to each of us. I'm quite relaxed about 16.5mm track; there, I've said it. Me too, the HO trains look just the right size on it... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 Hmmm well I pop to Garden Railway Specialists and Model Junction about once or twice a year to see stuff in the flesh. A couple of friends and myself make a day out of it including lunch, on one occasion one of the shop owners took us to lunch! We spot something we want to see and organise a trip to see it and inevitably succumb to some impulse purchases although I've often walked away without spending if I was just along for the ride rather than the instigator. I order online as well from them as they aren't local and keep a list of bits to pick up on the next trip. The curse of the smaller shop is not having the finances to hold a lot of new stock and to be honest it's not helped by the way the big two often dump a load of sets when they are in credit using up the money that could have paid for the new releases a couple of weeks later! That's not a one off as I've had two shops moan about the same practice and one now deals through a wholesaler so he only gets what he ordered even if it costs him more as he reckons the loss in business of having people cancel rather than wait another month for models was far worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) BGJ Er....... No. (Have you seen what standards my track is to!?) K Edited July 4, 2016 by Nearholmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 Not even if I promise to take you to the original Legoland in Billund Denmark, it is only 40 minutes away from where I live? Seriously though, how do you make transportable open frame baseboards? I'll work up some drawings and notes and pm them to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2016 Life is a compromise. Move on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 Life is a compromise. Move on I always thought it was a cabaret... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 Back to the OP - 'yes'. And they have done for years and they probably always will and there's probably not much we can do about it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 I'll work up some drawings and notes and pm them to you. Thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Life is a compromise. Move on Life has teeth. And bites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 Not even if I promise to take you to the original Legoland in Billund Denmark, it is only 40 minutes away from where I live? Seriously though, how do you make transportable open frame baseboards? See here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/102560-lb-project-first-board-construction/?p=2356791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60159 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 In railway modelling it's what you feel is right, not what is actually "right". As for buying stuff, things change. Yes it's tough for the traditional shop but it was also tough for the blacksmith when we started driving cars and not riding horses and for canal boats when we took to rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Most of us have Double Standards when we are looking for new stock. Thats why most of us look at Bargain Hunters on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 After reading a bunch of replies and comments, it would appear that railway modelling is just the same as it has been for the last sixty or seventy years or so. Maybe longer. On one side of the discussion there are the diehard detailers and painters where every rivet must be present and every lining the correct shade. In other words every thing must be perfect and applicable top the era of the layout. On the other hand are the players, those who unpack the box, plonk it on the layout and have fun. Each are poles apart in their approach to model railways but each derive pleasure from their preferred method. The trouble arises when one disagrees with the other as to what method and scale are the best. I am in awe of some of the OO layouts seen herein, but my tinplate layout satisfies me and my abilities as it has done for nearly twenty years since we moved here and it was built. Brian. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2016 Most PO wagons were no more than 16ft long. You'll need very unconvincing bogie wagons, or at least four wheelers with a very long wheelbase, to fit that name on . He did say a rake of wagons, I read that as one name on each. On second thoughts, how would that work when you viewed them from the other side, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 He did say a rake of wagons, I read that as one name on each. On second thoughts, how would that work when you viewed them from the other side, Letter each side differently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 On second thoughts, how would that work when you viewed them from the other side, Grub, Dibble, Cuthbert, Barney McGrew, Pugh, Pugh. ... but the Fat Controller may have put it in reverse then Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble, Grub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Lewis Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Why does no one fit smoke generators to diesel? Fred here, reminds me of my Austin Allegro (All agro) I had in the 70s that's how it started every morning till I put it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham456 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) And running it on rails that are 7 inches too close together. Or 7.09 inches if you're fanatical enough about improved running and finer flangeways. Even the most fanatical anti rivet counter might notice that sort of error in rivet spacing .I sorted this one out so easily My railway is run by the Padarn Railway who took over the world with their 4ft 1" gauge, I find that shuts them up ! OK so I am still 0.15mm out but at least I am wide of gauge this way P S were does the 7" come from isn't 16.5 equal to 4"1 1/2 in 4mm I make that 6" undersized, is this another case of the 18.83 lot over egging the pudding again by clameing more that it really is, Sturr sturr egg egg wind ! Edited July 4, 2016 by Graham456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 P S were does the 7" come from isn't 16.5 equal to 4"1 1/2 in 4mm I make that 6" undersized Even someone who thinks that all railways should be 7' 0¼" gauge can work out that 4' 8½" minus 4' 1½" = 7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham456 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) Even someone who thinks that all railways should be 7' 0¼" gauge can work out that 4' 8½" minus 4' 1½" = 7" Yea god you can tell I have been up since five this morning brain failing , I leave my post as it is for your amusement of my tired ness showing that I can't remember the track gauge,,,,,told you the Padarn had taken over my railway and brain Did that 1/4 inch exist or only on bends? Edited July 4, 2016 by Graham456 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I have never understood the logic behind track gauges. Why did almost no one pick a round number? Why 4'8 5/8" and not 4'9"? Why 1' 11 1/2" rather than 2'? What's up with Brunel's extra quarter inch? At least some places managed to pick a round nominal figure - 1m, 3'6", 5'... Why do we use scales that mix imperial and metric (x mm to the foot)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham456 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) My understanding and with out going into rivet counting territory is that all the bits came about due to changes in where to measure the gauge, with edge rails the flange is on the rail, so the wheels have to fit outside the flange, then we have people measuring from the middle of one rail top to the middle of the other, then you change your mind when you realise that a heavier rail affects the gauge so you go from inside edge to inside edge to keep it the same for you wheels back to backs and you end up with all sorts of silly bits, At least this is easier to answer than why 16.5 Edited July 4, 2016 by Graham456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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