Signaller69's projects

[Signaller69]

I have mainly been getting on with Dunnington lately, when time allows. I have built this Sugar Beet trailer from plasticard though, to replace a rather small Oxford one.

 

I have also added glazing to the Triang based Mk.1 SK; I was going to use Replica glazing but in the end went for Kitmaster as they are a closer fit, apart from the door drop lights (the Triang door windows being a tad small it seems - but Replica windows won't fit either), I have some spare SEF Flushglaze ones somewhere which will do the job though.

Just need to paint the glazing bars now with the ruling pen.

 

I'm hoping I may have enough parts to do a FK at some point as the DVLR used one in their own livery, along with an SK and BCK on the "Joem" steam specials.

[MJI]

I find I have to file Triang door holes bigger and shim the bottom of the window, then file back until window fits for big ones.

 

RMB fit fine, CK BSK too big.

[Signaller69]

4 hours ago, MJI said:

I find I have to file Triang door holes bigger and shim the bottom of the window, then file back until window fits for big ones.

 

RMB fit fine, CK BSK too big.

Thanks for the info. I did think of opening out the door windows, but since I didn't bother on my other Triang rebuilds, which it will probably run with, I decided not to.

[MJI]

16 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Thanks for the info. I did think of opening out the door windows, but since I didn't bother on my other Triang rebuilds, which it will probably run with, I decided not to.

 

I am just trying to produce coaches on the cheap, I could have modded Bachmann but they would still require a repaint.

 

The BG is in the same set as the RMB and a load of Mark 2Cs. A 45/1 will be pulling them. Currently waiting on Brian for 2ABC parts

 

The BSK and TSOs will run behind 75069. The real vehicles were painted from the same batch of paint as my models.

 

The old Triang based models are pretty accurate but crude, well worth using for detailing.

[Signaller69]

21 minutes ago, MJI said:

 

I am just trying to produce coaches on the cheap, I could have modded Bachmann but they would still require a repaint.

 

The BG is in the same set as the RMB and a load of Mark 2Cs. A 45/1 will be pulling them. Currently waiting on Brian for 2ABC parts

 

The BSK and TSOs will run behind 75069. The real vehicles were painted from the same batch of paint as my models.

 

The old Triang based models are pretty accurate but crude, well worth using for detailing.

Absolutely agree Martin, regarding modelling on the cheap. Always nice to have more individuality than an out-of-the-box model can provide too.

[MJI]

I have mark ones from

 

Triang Hornby

Mainline

Replica

Lima

Bachmann

Coopercraft

partial Comet

partial 247

 

Early Mainline looked good but were slightly out of scale. Lima appeared to be copied from Triang but more of them,, very deep windows, ripe for Cometing

 

Dimensions for Lima Triang matched Comet, I THINK 247 matched early Mainline so need some extendng.

 

Bachmann are nicest but most expensive. Replica and late Mainline are next best, only let down by no flush glazing.

 

Blue Grey set is Bachmann GWR150 converted Triang, next Blue GRey will use my medium pile of Lima with some form of flush glazing when I can work out how.

 

Coopercraft are a few random preserved.

 

The late Mainline, the Replicas, a few TH conversions , and some Cometed Lima are to be ran with various Mark 2 sets.

 

I like consistency within a set if possible

[Signaller69]

DMU bogie footsteps in progress.

Soldered brass strip and wire construction; the wire supports at each end were added first, working towards the middle. Enough here, once cut out, for 3 cab ends (6 steps) and 2 Guard's compartments (4 steps).

[Signaller69]

The first couple of DMU footsteps have been fitted, to the Class 105 DMBS, as this was on the workbench (ie kitchen table) finally having new radiators fitted in lieu of those missing when purchased in a sorry state a while back.

The steps were fitted into the original holes in the bogie frames. The radiators are bits of old MTK castings with some brass mesh super glued to the front. I need to study some photos of the Guards Door footsteps before adding them.

[Signaller69]

I am trying to complete various projects at the moment, namely the Class 105 & 107 footsteps (those fitted so far have been painted since the photo), weathering the 2 Presflo wagons (now done) and completing the ex-Triang Mk.1 SK windows, the latter having been very much on the back burner, as well as doing scenic work on Dunnington.

 

Future projects I can now gradually move into the "thinking about stage" include altering my Bachby Class 29 6121 to unique disc fitted 6123 now that Dapols TTG 6114 has been added to the Crinan fleet; building a "Clyde Puffer" resin kit for Crinan; Scratchbuilding a Plasser & Theurer Duomatic 06-32 Tamper (still no plans sourced) on a Bachmann OBW8 chassis (the crane from which will probably be salvaged for use on another DVLR crane wagon project); Class 100 DMU from the spare Hornby 110, another Class 126 Trailer Composite plus possibly motorising and repainting my ex E&G DMBSi to blue & grey, some DVLR liveried coaches (Mk.1's mainly with an optional blue Mk.1 Suburban BS and the "Old Gentleman's Saloon" of "Railway Children" fame) along with general detailing and weathering of existing stock, etc, etc......

The list doesn't seem to be getting any shorter!

 

Martyn.

[Gibbo675]

Hi Martyn,

 

I like the Presflos, but then you knew that I would.

 

Gibbo.

[Signaller69]

The class 107 has had the Replica full length cab and Guard's door handrails added; on the all blue units these appear black in photos so I have not painted them. I have also replaced the headcode blinds and added destination blinds in the centre windows too.

 

Elsewhere, its off with his head (code box)!

There has been much speculation about 6121 and 6122 having their real identities swapped, however my version of 6121 is slowly becoming 6123.....

[Signaller69]

The Bachby transformation to 6123 is progressing well; some old A1 etched oval air horn plates were added, new doors cut from 5 thou plasticard and new marker and tail lights have been drilled out and fabricated from plastic rod (no DCC lightery here). Upper lamp brackets to tackle next, before re-painting the ends and adding the headcode discs. 

 

New exhaust ports have been added to match the Dapol model (I had originally fitted round ones, having not seen conclusive evidence of the shape) and rainstrips added over some side grilles as per the prototype.

[MJI]

I could do with a pretend preserved one as I saw one on a school trip to Wales.

[Signaller69]

6 hours ago, MJI said:

I could do with a pretend preserved one as I saw one on a school trip to Wales.

It will be interesting to see if the "new build" D6170 ever sees the light of day. I doubt it somehow. Last I saw they were planning to use a class 33 as a donor and not with any engine that ever graced a 21 or 29.....

 

That's a conversion job I wouldn't try in 4mm Scale, let alone full size!

[MJI]

4 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

It will be interesting to see if the "new build" D6170 ever sees the light of day. I doubt it somehow. Last I saw they were planning to use a class 33 as a donor and not with any engine that ever graced a 21 or 29.....

 

That's a conversion job I wouldn't try in 4mm Scale, let alone full size!

 

Only got 2 or 3 photos, stood in the cab of one NBL loco to photo the other, both were wrecks.

 

But I do want a D601 and D6122 some time.

[keefer]

On 27/02/2020 at 06:30, Signaller69 said:

It will be interesting to see if the "new build" D6170 ever sees the light of day. I doubt it somehow. Last I saw they were planning to use a class 33 as a donor and not with any engine that ever graced a 21 or 29.....

Probably no bad thing!

Can be sort of justified as an interesting 'what if' - the locos were re-engined and went on to have a more successful life (like the cl. 30/31)

[Signaller69]

11 minutes ago, keefer said:

Probably no bad thing!

Can be sort of justified as an interesting 'what if' - the locos were re-engined and went on to have a more successful life (like the cl. 30/31)

True, I'd like to see it happen if it looks like a 21/29, but it would be some job. The plan as I understand it is to utilise the 33 shell, but they also require everything that needs to go into the body shell as well as the running gear. Wonder if they have thought about class 309 Commonwealth power bogies? Istr they look vaguely similar to the NB bogies....

 

But the "Baby Deltic from a 37, on Class 20 bogies" project looks positively straightforward by comparison I think.

[keefer]

True, at least the Baby Deltic has some commonality of components with other EE locos.

The NBLs were more of a niche product, with nothing still existing that uses any similar parts. The only other alternative is to make one from scratch, but given the reputation of the NBL drawings that might be nigh-on impossible!

[Gibbo675]

On 28/02/2020 at 11:47, Signaller69 said:

True, I'd like to see it happen if it looks like a 21/29, but it would be some job. The plan as I understand it is to utilise the 33 shell, but they also require everything that needs to go into the body shell as well as the running gear. Wonder if they have thought about class 309 Commonwealth power bogies? Istr they look vaguely similar to the NB bogies....

 

But the "Baby Deltic from a 37, on Class 20 bogies" project looks positively straightforward by comparison I think.

 

On 28/02/2020 at 11:56, keefer said:

True, at least the Baby Deltic has some commonality of components with other EE locos.

The NBLs were more of a niche product, with nothing still existing that uses any similar parts. The only other alternative is to make one from scratch, but given the reputation of the NBL drawings that might be nigh-on impossible!

Hi Chaps,

 

It would seen to me that bearing in mind that re-engineering the Hastings gauge class 33's bankrupted BRCW it may well be easier to build a class 29 from scratch !!!

 

Even the 10000 project uses a similar frame set in that of the class 58 and the same size engine block albeit somewhat de-rated.

 

Gibbo.

[jessy1692]

On 01/03/2020 at 19:51, Gibbo675 said:

 

Hi Chaps,

 

It would seen to me that bearing in mind that re-engineering the Hastings gauge class 33's bankrupted BRCW it may well be easier to build a class 29 from scratch !!!

 

Even the 10000 project uses a similar frame set in that of the class 58 and the same size engine block albeit somewhat de-rated.

 

Gibbo.

Ah but from what ive read the Ivatt lads doing 10000 actually have proper EE 16svt of 1947 vintage and i think they are after/have at least 1 spare. It seems to have got some momentum behind it again and they seem to be quickly moving on with it bogies and and other equipment acquired recently. Be one to watch.

https://lms10000.co.uk/

Lots of info and a great write of the project in the links.

Edited March 2, 2020 by jessy1692
Include link to 10000

[Signaller69]

4 hours ago, jessy1692 said:

Ah but from what ive read the Ivatt lads doing 10000 actually have proper EE 16svt of 1947 vintage and i think they are after/have at least 1 spare. It seems to have got some momentum behind it again and they seem to be quickly moving on with it bogies and and other equipment acquired recently. Be one to watch.

https://lms10000.co.uk/

Lots of info and a great write of the project in the links.

Very interesting, thanks for sharing the link. They seem to be streets ahead of the NB Group at any rate...

[jessy1692]

6 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Very interesting, thanks for sharing the link. They seem to be streets ahead of the NB Group at any rate...

No probs Martyn, sorry for the slight thread hijack! The 10000 project seem to be ploughing on now after a change of leadership. The NB lot have a long way to go with very little usable parts to modify, i cant see it happening with out a huge amount of cash unfortunately.

Cheers

James

[Signaller69]

6123 is progressing, the exhausts have been touched in and Railmatch Sherwood Green has been applied over the Hornby colour (which was actually fairly close; in this photo the engine room double doors and everything to the left is Railmatch, to the right being the Hornby colour):

And a comparison with Dapol's OoTB D6114:

I'm not going to call which is more accurate as 50 year old photos in varying light and ex-works vs in service/weathered are rather subjective, but my gut feeling is the Railmatch colour is probably more appropriate for a loco which has been in service for a while.

 

The Shawplan Headcode discs have had wire mounts soldered to the rear for locating in holes and have been painted ready for fitting:

 

More photos to follow once the yellow ends are complete.

 

[Signaller69]

Ends pretty much done, headcode discs fitted and tail lights (maroon), horn grilles (black) and MW codes (red circle) applied with paint dots on the wrong end of a small drill bit. This loco had the windscreen surrounds also painted yellow when the full yellow ends were added in 1970. I also touched in the wipers with silver paint.

I need to add the missing '3' to each cabside number along with OHE flashes as appropriate and data panels next. 

[Gibbo675]

7 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Ends pretty much done, headcode discs fitted and tail lights (maroon), horn grilles (black) and MW codes (red circle) applied with paint dots on the wrong end of a small drill bit. This loco had the windscreen surrounds also painted yellow when the full yellow ends were added in 1970. I also touched in the wipers with silver paint.

I need to add the missing '3' to each cabside number along with OHE flashes as appropriate and data panels next. 

Hi Martyn,

 

Yet another old Hornby model that scrubs up well, you have made quite a difference to its appearance. Did you fit larger wheels to it, I have done this to my Hornby class 24 conversions and class 25's and it improves the look of them considerably.

Will the data panel have a blue background to it ?

 

Gibbo.