RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2017 Thanks Mopar a bit more work on the bogie side frames tonight. Cheers 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Thanks Mopar a bit more work on the bogie side frames tonight. Cheers The bogie sideframes are first class. Please describe your technique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2017 The bogie sideframes are first class. Please describe your technique. Thanks Chris I've always tried to achieve texture to the weathering, so I paint the bogies in either matt black, weathered black or roof dirt, depending what I've got in, whilst still wet I add black weathering powder and a mix of light and dark earth weathering powder, I then dust it all lightly with a mix of it all. I then pick out various areas in a mix of matt black and gunmetal blue, this gives an oily diesel look (I use this on track to) I then add a bit more black powder. I then add gloss varnish to certain areas toning it down with powder on a baby bud. The paint and varnish tends to hold the powder but I seal it with either railmatch matt varnish or lately I've been using testors Dull coat which I find great and saves getting the airbrush out. Hope this helps but there's more photos of how I've done it on other locos on my 'Dirty diesel' thread. Thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted February 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2017 Stunning mate, well done! Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2017 Stunning mate, well done! Rich Thanks Rich an early morning spray of Dullcoat has sealed them Hopefully they still look ok. Thanks again 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Thanks Chris I've always tried to achieve texture to the weathering, so I paint the bogies in either matt black, weathered black or roof dirt, depending what I've got in, whilst still wet I add black weathering powder and a mix of light and dark earth weathering powder, I then dust it all lightly with a mix of it all. I then pick out various areas in a mix of matt black and gunmetal blue, this gives an oily diesel look (I use this on track to) I then add a bit more black powder. I then add gloss varnish to certain areas toning it down with powder on a baby bud. The paint and varnish tends to hold the powder but I seal it with either railmatch matt varnish or lately I've been using testors Dull coat which I find great and saves getting the airbrush out. Hope this helps but there's more photos of how I've done it on other locos on my 'Dirty diesel' thread. Thanks again Paul, I have looked at your Dirty Diesel forum and there is lots of good advice. The only 0 gauge diesel I have weathered to date is a Heljan Hymek. An airbrush was the main weapon, but the finish does lack the relief that you have achieved on the Class 40's bogies. The Hymek's buffers need sorting out per your detailed description of the Class 24 project. I am much more confident about weathering steam locomotives and I agree that Testors Dullcote is a first class product and well worth the usually exorbitant price. Regards, Chris 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2017 Paul, I have looked at your Dirty Diesel forum and there is lots of good advice. The only 0 gauge diesel I have weathered to date is a Heljan Hymek. An airbrush was the main weapon, but the finish does lack the relief that you have achieved on the Class 40's bogies. The Hymek's buffers need sorting out per your detailed description of the Class 24 project. I am much more confident about weathering steam locomotives and I agree that Testors Dullcote is a first class product and well worth the usually exorbitant price. Regards, Chris That Hymek looks pretty good to me I occasionally use an airbrush but it's only for adding frame dirt to the body side as I'm just not the comfy using the airbrush, for the 40 I might dust it off though and use on the body or I might just order some frame dirt in an aerosol. One thing I forgot to mention was that I sit the Dullcoat in a cup of warm water for ten minutes before use, the only down side with any sealing tough is that it tones down the colours. I've never weathered a steam loco but it's something I fancy doing, maybe a scrap line loco Next up in the 40 will be to finish the wheels off, in the past I've applied black powder to the wet paint but I don't like using powder on the wheels if I'm honest as they really do need a thorough clean as it gets everywhere, so I'm going to experiment with a bit of black paint with maybe a bit of powder added in. After that it'll be the bogie fronts, buffers and then the tanks. Thanks again 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I might just order some frame dirt in an aerosol. Hi Paul, The class 40 side frames are looking really good. But for goodness sake, don't use Frame Dirt in an aerosol for weathering, it comes out much too thick and nowhere near as controlled as an airbrush. The other thing is you can let the paint down further with an airbrush for a finer spray/diluted colour. Your Gronk is looking good as well, very nice textures. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi4x4 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Hi Paul, The class 40 side frames are looking really good. But for goodness sake, don't use Frame Dirt in an aerosol for weathering, it comes out much too thick and nowhere near as controlled as an airbrush. The other thing is you can let the paint down further with an airbrush for a finer spray/diluted colour. Your Gronk is looking good as well, very nice textures. Jinty Somebody in a model shop in Warwickshire once told me that he would often 'decant' paint from an aerosol into an airbrush pot (or similar) by swapping the spray nozzle on the paint can for a nozzle and pipe from a WD40 can. I tried it once - it works, and you can then thin the paint with more thinners. Obviously, make sure the WD40 nozzle and pipe are clean (or New) first ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 10, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2017 Thanks fellas Told you I was useless using paint Jinty, I'll blow the mothballs off the airbrush and use that then, unless u can find a better way with the powders (lot more difficult in 7mm ) Thanks again for the comments and advice much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Paul, Those side frames are superb mate, I must get brave, I must get brave I MUST GET BRAVE, hahahha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 10, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2017 Paul, Those side frames are superb mate, I must get brave, I must get brave I MUST GET BRAVE, hahahha. Thanks Andy you must!!!!!! I got brave last night and tackled the wheels, at first using paints and the dry brush technique but on inspection this morning it looked cr@p so it was out with the paints st 4.30 am and with a baby bud I applied tiny amounts of powder to the wet paint, not 100% convinced but better than it looked at 4.25am!! Thanks again Andy and don't forget 'you must' 'you must'..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 12, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2017 Bogie side frames finished and fitted, I'm made up how they look, hopefully some daylight pics tomorrow. Cheers 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Lovely textures to that Paul, looking very nice indeed Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 As David / Jintyman said Paul, some really superb Textures mate. cant wait to see it all finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 12, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2017 Thanks David and thanks Andy, can't wait to finish it myself Here's some quickly taken natural lighting pics Cheers 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Superb Paul Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Thanks David and thanks Andy, can't wait to finish it myself Here's some quickly taken natural lighting pics Cheers I really don't know why you worry so much about getting it right, you've managed very well so far. Brilliant work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Love the crud over the "BR TIMKEN" on the axleboxes, in particular, the 4th picture down......... Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Outstanding weathering....Outstanding loco. I would love one, but I dare not tread this slippery slope for fear of Carrog becoming Conway ..... Edited February 12, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 G'day Gents If the bogies are that dirty, the roof will be absolutely filthy, bring it on. manna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 Love the crud over the "BR TIMKEN" on the axleboxes, in particular, the 4th picture down......... Jinty Thanks Jinty means a lot coming from the expert Cheers Outstanding weathering....Outstanding loco. I would love one, but I dare not tread this slippery slope for fear of Carrog becoming Conway ..... Thanks Coachmann, it's a fantastic model you really should get one Cheers G'day Gents If the bogies are that dirty, the roof will be absolutely filthy, bring it on. manna Thanks Manna, once I get it numbered I'll start on the body with that filthy roof Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 NIce bit of texture on the bogies Paul, Will you digging out the air brush for the sides,or do you have another plan?. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 NIce bit of texture on the bogies Paul, Will you digging out the air brush for the sides,or do you have another plan?. Brian. Thanks Brian, not sure yet although I'm not very good with the airbrush I can just about get away with it for body side side grime, well I did on my 4mm locos, but the last two I weathered I used powders on the body and they turned out ok. D270 was one of the first 40's in blue so it won't be to dirty, mostly the roof etc, here's some pics https://flic.kr/p/axJdrL https://flic.kr/p/5xFAQ5 Thanks again 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 14, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2017 Lovely texture on the bogies especially the axle boxes over the lettering like jinty said Brian Thanks Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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