Andrew P Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Lacking in steam??? OO? Don't mention the milk crate... Umm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 With all these blue oil burners flying around should the local nederatti not be being driving Escorts or Capris rather than Heralds and Moggie 1000's? Your right mate, I do have Astra's, Cortina's and Volvo's etc in boxes ready, but because of recent events, they haven't come out yet, but will soon I assure you. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 I also have for sale a Hornby BoB Body for Tangmere, but without the copper pipework shown in this image, I will photo my own tomorrow. Please PM me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 News Flash, I have a Bachmann 108 DMU in Blue Grey, winging it's way to me in the next few days. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynJPearson Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Another nice hour or so in TOPS today, and using the Green Sound 08... Green? GREEN? Tsk tsk, it's a slippery slope, before you know it you'll be putting kettles back on there. (Realised I was right when I looked at the next page and there they were - albeit ones you are selling!) Looking good as always Andy, and good to see that your strength is returning so you're getting to spend more time down in TOPS! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Green? GREEN? Tsk tsk, it's a slippery slope, before you know it you'll be putting kettles back on there. (Realised I was right when I looked at the next page and there they were - albeit ones you are selling!) Looking good as always Andy, and good to see that your strength is returning so you're getting to spend more time down in TOPS! Hi Martyn, The Green 08 just happens to be the only one of the 3 I have that has Sound. And yes, 2 to 3 hours now in TOPS, but not all in one hit I hasten to add. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) After lunch, a Class 47, 47001 arrived all freshly painted up especially for the event, along with 08, 08489. Then on the way home went via the Farm Track and got some more pics. Back again tomorrow with more pics. Edited March 13, 2018 by Andrew P 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 I really must start to use the Tripod, the pics are not as good as they should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPH 603 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I really must start to use the Tripod, the pics are not as good as they should be. I disagree. Those look great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 I disagree. Those look great! Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I can do better, at least I hope I can, hahha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPH 603 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I can do better, at least I hope I can, hahha. Well I'll be armed with the Craftsmanship/Clever button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Hey Andy, you must be getting better - a story is begining to break through alongside the pics. It was something I felt you'd lost since Pencarne, where the story was almost as good as the pics. That shunter does look the business in dirty green, wonder how it got in that state. Whilst on could I ask Clive - were there any differences between the 08s as modelled and the older shunters in the 12xxx and 15xxx series, or would a spray in black and renumber do? Also really liked the videos, especially that van train. Crying out for a Western at the head, and it could be the Fisons company train, Avonmouth - Truro, which used to come up the chord behind my house at tea time, that would be mid 70s. Course you could run it any time, 'cos it's always time for tea with you, isn't it? Off to set up the Save the Kings Moreton Line Association. Hi Tony Depends. I would say no, the LMS series 12xxx, the class 11s had a different arrangement of boxes on the running plate, a lower running plate, different profile cab roof, sightly different windows, they were lower because they had smaller wheels. I could go on about minor details like hand rails, lights and so on. The SR 152xx series, class 12, had many of the same differences as the class 11 except they had the same size driving wheels as an 08, but they were of the box-pox design. The WR 151xx series were the same as the LMS 12xxx locos give or take a few minor details. The LNER in true Doncaster style were the only railway to manage to make the standard EE 350hp shunter in two non-standard shapes, they even made the wheelbase longer. As you can see there are quite a few visual things that mark the classes apart from an 08. More than between a Saint, Hall and Grange. I wouldn't slap a Saint nameplate on a Grange, despite I cannot tell them apart. On the other hand, it is your model railway. Edited March 14, 2018 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Great to see you posting again nice loco and pictures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Hi Tony Depends. I would say no, the LMS series 12xxx, the class 11s had a different arrangement of boxes on the running plate, a lower running plate, different profile cab roof, sightly different windows, they were lower because they had smaller wheels. I could go on about minor details like hand rails, lights and so on. The SR 152xx series, class 12, had many of the same differences as the class 11 except they had the same size driving wheels as an 08, but they were of the box-pox design. The WR 151xx series were the same as the LMS 12xxx locos give or take a few minor details. The LNER in true Doncaster style were the only railway to manage to make the standard EE 350hp shunter in two non-standard shapes, they even made the wheelbase longer. As you can see there are quite a few visual things that mark the classes apart from an 08. More than between a Saint, Hall and Grange. I wouldn't slap a Saint nameplate on a Grange, despite I cannot tell them apart. On the other hand, it is your model railway. Thanks Clive, I knew you would know. I had worked out there was a difference re the running plate boxes, I'd even (after posting the question) worked out that the lima model appears to be an 09 not an 08. What I hadn't realised was the wheelsize/wheelbase issue, and the roof profile. More thought required before I jump into this swamp I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Thanks Clive, I knew you would know. I had worked out there was a difference re the running plate boxes, I'd even (after posting the question) worked out that the lima model appears to be an 09 not an 08. What I hadn't realised was the wheelsize/wheelbase issue, and the roof profile. More thought required before I jump into this swamp I think. Hi Tony There is no external difference between a class 09 and a class 08, the main difference is in the gearing allowing a 09 to travel a wee bit faster so it when out on the main line they could get out the way of the EMUs. The class 10 again is the same as an 08, they had internal differences, engine, generator and traction motors. There was also a batch of standard shunters with Crossley engines which appear to have a different exhaust. There are plenty of external differences between batches of BR 350 hp shunters depending on when built and if/when they were modified in their service lifetimes. The Lima model, and the Hornby Doublo/Wrenn model suffer with too long a cab both to fit the motor in. The old Tri-ang model body was closer, but wedded to the Jinty chassis, I have one on a remotored Wrenn Chassis and it looks OK. The more recent Hornby Railroad model is the old Tri-ang one made to fit the Thomas Chassis and has a too long body, the cab was made longer and the running plate extends too far forward. I have nothing but praise for both the Hornby and Bachmann models. I did/do intend to build a couple of class 11s, one LMR engine and one late build ER machine, this is how far I have got. Edited March 14, 2018 by Clive Mortimore 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Hi Tony Depends. I would say no, the LMS series 12xxx, the class 11s had a different arrangement of boxes on the running plate, a lower running plate, different profile cab roof, sightly different windows, they were lower because they had smaller wheels. I could go on about minor details like hand rails, lights and so on. The SR 152xx series, class 12, had many of the same differences as the class 11 except they had the same size driving wheels as an 08, but they were of the box-pox design. The WR 151xx series were the same as the LMS 12xxx locos give or take a few minor details. The LNER in true Doncaster style were the only railway to manage to make the standard EE 350hp shunter in two non-standard shapes, they even made the wheelbase longer. As you can see there are quite a few visual things that mark the classes apart from an 08. More than between a Saint, Hall and Grange. I wouldn't slap a Saint nameplate on a Grange, despite I cannot tell them apart. On the other hand, it is your model railway. Hi Tony There is no external difference between a class 09 and a class 08, the main difference is in the gearing allowing a 09 to travel a wee bit faster so it when out on the main line they could get out the way of the EMUs. The class 10 again is the same as an 08, they had internal differences, engine, generator and traction motors. There was also a batch of standard shunters with Crossley engines which appear to have a different exhaust. There are plenty of exteranl differences between batches of BR 350 hp shunters depending on when built and if/when they were modified in their service lifetimes. The Lima model, and the Hornby Doublo/Wrenn model suffer with too long a cab both to fit the motor in. The old Tri-ang model body was closer, but wedded to the Jinty chassis, I have one on a remotored Wrenn Chassis and it looks OK. The more recent Hornby Railroad model is the old Tri-ang one made to fit the Thomas Chassis and has a too long body, the cab was made longer and the running plate extends too far forward. I have nothing but praise for both the Hornby and Bachmann models. I did/do intend to build a couple of class 11s, one LMR engine and one late build ER machine, this is how far I have got. 002a.jpg 001a.jpg Thanks Clive, an excellent response to a sensible question. This is what R M Web is all about. And this is why I stick to RTR on my Train Set. Edited March 14, 2018 by Andrew P 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2018 And this is why I stick to RTR on my Train Set. Same here. But I do genuinely admire people who can get to grips with all this stuff and model virtually any variation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 And this is why I stick to RTR on my Train Set. Same here. But I do genuinely admire people who can get to grips with all this stuff and model virtually any variation. Your spot on mate, I also admire, Kit and Scratch builders, be it a Buildings, a Signal, a Wagon or a Loco, they are all very high in my admiration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPH 603 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 And this is why I stick to RTR on my Train Set. Same here. But I do genuinely admire people who can get to grips with all this stuff and model virtually any variation. Most of my stuff is RTR although I have tried scratchbuilding before, although this didn't turn out great I plan to have another stab at it some time (hopefully) very soon. I find scratchbuilding is good for making things you can't already get in RTR (and in my case at times, can't afford) but other than that I usually default to the RTR, however I find brand new RTR can sometimes be filled with gimmicks and are lots (in my opinion) are overpriced, especially non British outline models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew P Posted March 14, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2018 We went back again later and my mate went down to Dore end and got some pics from over the Bridge, but no Trains came through, he couldn't hang around, as there was a 33 due on Shed. We missed the arrival of the pristine Class 33, but managed to Bunk into the Yard to get some pics before being told to GO AWAY! There was also a 44 hiding inside the Shed. And another 08 on the Fuel Pumps. We also got around to the back road and copped a very grubby 47, so pics of that later. 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigwife007 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 News Flash, I have a Bachmann 108 DMU in Blue Grey, winging it's way to me in the next few days. I can confirm the spotters are now packing there cheese and pickle sandwich’s, pork pies and of course lashings and lashings of lemonade. Ready for departure from Malvern Road Cheltenham. There’s not many seats left for late comers and arrival will be before midday tomorrow Dan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerburnie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I can confirm the spotters are now packing there cheese and pickle sandwich’s, pork pies and of course lashings and lashings of lemonade. Ready for departure from Malvern Road Cheltenham. There’s not many seats left for late comers and arrival will be before midday tomorrow Dan Posh spotters down your end, we made do with a bag of crisps and a Wagon Wheel washed down with Tizer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerburnie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) We went back again later and my mate went down to Dore end and got some pics from over the Bridge, but no Trains came through, he couldn't hang around, as there was a 33 due on Shed. Running Session 070.JPG We missed the arrival of the pristine Class 33, but managed to Bunk into the Yard to get some pics before being told to GO AWAY! Running Session 059.JPG Running Session 040.JPG Running Session 042.JPG Running Session 060.JPG There was also a 44 hiding inside the Shed. Running Session 058.JPG And another 08 on the Fuel Pumps. Running Session 056.JPG Running Session 054.JPG Running Session 047.JPG Running Session 039.JPG We also got around to the back road and copped a very grubby 47, so pics of that later. Liking the car park Andy, though I might have chased the mod away with his Lambretta. Edited March 14, 2018 by tigerburnie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigwife007 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Liking the car park Andy, though I might have chased the mod away with his Lambretta. Being a real biker the skip driver has just pulled it from the skip. He didn’t want that sort of rubbish in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 I can confirm the spotters are now packing there cheese and pickle sandwich’s, pork pies and of course lashings and lashings of lemonade. Ready for departure from Malvern Road Cheltenham. There’s not many seats left for late comers and arrival will be before midday tomorrow Dan Cheers Dan, I'm looking forward to it's arrival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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