spikey Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'm re-vamping my 00 layout and it's just occurred to me that I could perhaps make provision for a 00-9 line running in to a transfer siding/shed of some sort. Given that this would be analogue control and totally freestyle "industrial" in the sense that it just has to look plausible as opposed to authentic ... 1 What would be my best bet for a small 4-wheel infernal-combustion-engined loco if my number one priority is good slow running? I guess it would be a case of buy a chassis and kit-build a body? 2 What would be a sensible maximum gradient for the above pulling no more than 3 "typical" wagons on a more-or-less straight section of track? 3 What minimum radius ought I to reckon on using? Sorry for the dumb questions but I really have no idea where 00-9 is concerned ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted April 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'm re-vamping my 00 layout and it's just occurred to me that I could perhaps make provision for a 00-9 line running in to a transfer siding/shed of some sort. Given that this would be analogue control and totally freestyle "industrial" in the sense that it just has to look plausible as opposed to authentic ... 1 What would be my best bet for a small 4-wheel infernal-combustion-engined loco if my number one priority is good slow running? I guess it would be a case of buy a chassis and kit-build a body? 2 What would be a sensible maximum gradient for the above pulling no more than 3 "typical" wagons on a more-or-less straight section of track? 3 What minimum radius ought I to reckon on using? Sorry for the dumb questions but I really have no idea where 00-9 is concerned ... I am not going to give any advice because I have no experience of NG, but it would help those who can to tell them what period your layout is and what industry would your line be serving. Good luck with your NG project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) Peco offer their Crazy track' ,with rough looking sleepers, 9 inch radius set track and points. There's flex track and larger radius points too but note they also offer 'mainline 009' track and points which have neater sleepers and even larger radius points. Minitrains offer some nice small and very good running diesels and have just released a couple more this week. Have a look at these:- http://www.minitrains.eu http://hobb-e-mail.com/minitrains-515-c.asp http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/MINITRAINS.html Edited April 3, 2017 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I agree with Paul Minitrains do a good range of small diesels ( and plenty of steam engines as well) if you need to view pics these are available on several websites such as Gaugemaster.co.uk. there are a few other alternatives available form 'Conitinental' manufacturers such as ROCO the Roco 0-6-0 rod drive diesel will crawl imperceptibly if required! Minimum radius that some of the small locos & short wheelbase wagons will negotiate is much less than 9" but I would personally try to use 9" as a minimum if poss. ( I once saw a Minitrains loco traversing a circle of handbuilt track which had been built on a Vinyl record!!) Short trains will allow these locos to climb quite step gradients if required 1 in 15 should be easily achievable, but would suggest that when you get some stock & track you may like to experiment before serious planning takes place? Hope this helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 If you wanted something a bit cheaper and are prepared to build a kit (for lack of a better word), try a Kato 103/104 chassis and stick one of these on top and just paint as desired. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/tebee?section=To+fit+Kato+103+chassis&sort= Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 That's very helpful indeed, chaps. Thank you. I do rather like the idea of trying something a bit wacky unusual on a commercial chassis, so I guess the obvious way forward would be to get one of those Kato chassis and see for myself what the slow running's like. The reason for my concern about that is down to having only seen 00-9 in the flesh once (at an exhibition) and been amazed at how bad the running was at anything other than flat out or stationary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted April 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2017 Kato chassis work fine but they do benefit from additional weight. Minitrains while a bit more costly are pretty much the gold standard for rtr 009 mechanisms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 If you can wait a little while, Bachman USA have announced a model of 'Rusty' for their Thomas narrow gauge range this year. This will be a reasonably accurate version of 'Midlander' from the TR and if their Skarloey model is anything to go by, will be ripe for detailing and will run superbly. If you want steam at any point, I can't recommend the Skarloey model highly enough as a starting point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 If you wanted something a bit cheaper and are prepared to build a kit (for lack of a better word), try a Kato 103/104 chassis and stick one of these on top and just paint as desired. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/tebee?section=To+fit+Kato+103+chassis&sort= One of these even cheeper, I have one with a Kato chassis, very simple to build Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesmond Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Definitely add as much weight as you can get away with if using a Kato 103 or 104 chassis, as the improvement to the running is unbelievable. On their own they are either full speed or stopped (mostly) but with some ballast they are a lovely runner. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ramrig Posted May 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) I 1 What would be my best bet for a small 4-wheel infernal-combustion-engined loco if my number one priority is good slow running? I guess it would be a case of buy a chassis and kit-build a body? That loco could give you Hell!!!! Edited May 8, 2017 by Ramrig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 That loco could give you Hell!!!! Well if its going to be Rusty from Thomas the Tank Engine, then it will be a diseasel, spread by coughs and sneezes! (Can still remember that line 55 years after first reading it!) Seriously though, I have laid out my Buscot Estate railway to a ruling gradient of 1 in 30 and a minimum of 300mm radius curves. This was based on my previous experience of 009 running. I am intending to use Nigel Lawton's Simplexes on it and anything steeper would seriously impede their pulling power. As it is, some old Grafar 08's without any extra ballast can pull 12 wagons up the hill at a reasonable pace. If ballasting, beware of making the loco too top heavy as it will rock from side to side giving erratic running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RJS1977 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Not particularly cheap these days, but I've got a couple of the Lilliput 0-4-0 diesel shunters and they are *very* good runners: http://liliput.de/en/products/liliput/h0e/diesel-locomotives.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallen Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 If you really really want good slow running, you can fit radio control to a kit built loco on a Kato 103/104 chassis for about £100 for the complete setup including the transmitter etc. and never have to nudge the loco, or clean the track, ever again! Frank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Not particularly cheap these days, but I've got a couple of the Lilliput 0-4-0 diesel shunters and they are *very* good runners: http://liliput.de/en/products/liliput/h0e/diesel-locomotives.html I have to agree, the majority of the H0e locos by ROCO, Liliput & Bemo are excellent performers expensive but usually faultless, unlike some other brands....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dorset Wanderer Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 The only one I sent back was a Rico shunter Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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