50A55B Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I saw 44004/5/10 at York in 1974/5 working coal specials formed of 24.5t hoppers, which they came off at York Yard North before heading straight back south. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Interesting photo of 44004 at Cockshute (Stoke) IN 1978. Why the red buffer beam and white buffers? Railtour duties maybe? https://www.flickr.com/photos/34487875@N07/3284933757/in/photolist-61h9mV-dkK5tL-dabMgX-9W8pnY-9qxZ4h-9QBw9F-4nLmsq-n6pnj4-aAszg6-qUiRrV-4nFrtK-9W8ono-dvPZth-9W8qHw-dHyYb8-9W5Aen-behjXX-aGK35v-rczLHL-h7e27x-gvkoEn-fzoTyg-8FLpoE-e68WuQ-9W5zNR-9W8pVS-9sBibz-9JJmDd-de5QcN-9W8qEf-9QEoYo-9W5zmg-9W5AEZ-9JJnfs-9QBvRH-9W8oQj-9W5Aot-9W5zFk-9W5zr2-ainWYi-9W8qBs-9W5AMZ-9W8qe7-dvPZGq-9W8qkb-9W5ASc-ainWfH-9W5yQF-9JFxN8-9W5zyR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Splash of colour for the farewell junkets Nick. 31/0, 40s and Deltics receiving similar embellishments prior to their retirement after railtour duties. 56078 too infact. C6T. Edited June 12, 2017 by Classsix T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Splash of colour for the farewell junkets Nick. Thanks, I did wonder that but then thought a farewell tour in 1978, didn't 44004 last until 1980? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Slap paint on the healthiest ones, initially as railtour specials, then last of class because they're cosseted. Hence they become farewell (and preservation candidates) by default? C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted June 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2017 I only had two sightings of 44s away from Toton and as scrappers at Derby works. Both sightings were 44005 at Washwood Heath in September 1974 ( first sighting of the class) and then three years later, August 1977, at Peterborough bound for Whitemoor yard. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Us New St trainspotting kids quickly worked out that one turned up most days at Bescot. Got to see seven of them that way and, armed with a Midland Railtourer ticket followed by a rather long walk from Long Eaton to Toton, on a Sunday, enabled us to bag the rest, where most would be laid up for the weekend. I remember seeing all 10 at Toton one weekend in the 1960s. The steam shed was still standing, empty and silent..................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Although I did see a few on Toton-Whitemoor services via Sleaford in the late 1960s, this is how I remember seeing most of the class. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Did any ever make it into St Pancras in the BR blue 440xx days ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Did any ever make it into St Pancras in the BR blue 440xx days ? On Flickr there are photos of 44002/5/9 at St Pancras in 1977, as well as notes that 44007 worked a railtour return leg back to St Pancras (44002 having started out from St Pancras) cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Pic of one at Oxford in an OPC book somewhere. A friend of mine recons he saw this one at Basingstoke. I saw it through Oxford on this day so it's nice there is photographic evidence of it in the Bradford Barton book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2017 On Flickr there are photos of 44002/5/9 at St Pancras in 1977, as well as notes that 44007 worked a railtour return leg back to St Pancras (44002 having started out from St Pancras) cheers Have you got a link to these Kenny as a mate of mine who grew up in Luton in the 70s reckons he never saw one so I could wind him up with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Have you got a link to these Kenny as a mate of mine who grew up in Luton in the 70s reckons he never saw one so I could wind him up with that Here are some of the Flickr photos I found by doing a search for eg '44002 pancras' https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/5733863843/in/photolist-UubE7P-gvmCmP-gvkoEn-mpkAc5-9JFxXr-gvtMPx-mrhist-mrhiA4-mrhiv4 44002 15/10/1977 photo by Brian Daniels https://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/8447261555/in/photolist-9uVKNQ-98s6z2-gvmCmP-dSsqyB 44005 1/10/1977 https://www.flickr.com/photos/35476094@N04/11927143193/in/photolist-9uVKNQ-jaXJ8T 44009 1/1/1977 cheers 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 On Flickr there are photos of 44002/5/9 at St Pancras in 1977, as well as notes that 44007 worked a railtour return leg back to St Pancras (44002 having started out from St Pancras) cheers According to Six Bells Junction the 1/10/77 was "The Peaks Express with 44005 St Pancras to Toton, 44008 Toton, Manchester Piccadilly, Toton - out via Woodhead return via Hope Valley, and 44009 Toton to St Pancras. This tour was a sell-out so a repeat was arranged for 15/10/77 but with 44002 doing the first leg, 44004 the second, and 44007 the third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Further perusing on Six Bells (my car is in for servicing, so plenty of spare time) reveals that on the 23rd April 1977 the Peak Commemorative Tour had 44004 from Toton via Burton on Trent, and Camp Hill, Selly Oak to New Street - then return via Water Orton and Nuneaton avoider to Toton. The tour originated at Lime Street, Liverpool. 24th September 1977 saw another tour from Lime Street, this time as far as March; 44008 took the train from Toton to March via Peterborough, and returned via Spalding and Sleaford. The official BR "44 Farewell" special was on 21 January 1978, and featured 44009 from Nottingham to Crewe via Wath, Barnsley and the Woodhead route, and banked from Barnsley to Dodworth by 56005. 44008 then took the tour from Crewe to Nottingham via Chester, Shrewsbury, Wolverhampton, Walsall and Lichfield with assistance from 24133 between Crewe and Chester. (Now that is a combination I would have loved to have photographed). Edited June 13, 2017 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Certainly in their later years , 44s were hampered by a lack of traincrew traction knowledge , with I believe only Toton men signing them. I've seen photos of them at Nuneaton whilst working coal trains to Three Spires Junction , and a now retired colleague from work told a brilliant tale of how a driver booked on at Bescot to work the evening freight across to Toton , only to come back to see the Supervisor stating that he couldn't take the train as he didn't sign the loco , which was a class 44. The supervisor replied "Well you bl**dy well brought it here last night"...presumably the cabs being very similar to 45s and 46s (which BS men did sign) , in the dark , one peak looks much like any other. Here is 44009 at Nuneaton in 1975 https://www.flickr.com/photos/53299842@N08/5656819393/in/photolist-aCcVGU-dqDJp6-9BSFjR-9BayVx cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 They still made it to Bescot in the later years, via Lichfield and Walsall from Toton, rather than by way of Sutton Park; I never saw one on the Wichnor - Water Orton - Ryecroft route. Here is 44010 at Water Orton in 1975https://www.flickr.com/photos/97395593@N08/15379306693/in/photolist-aCcVGU-dqDJp6-pr1Y5e-rAABnC-GgarAo cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2017 The official BR "44 Farewell" special was on 21 January 1978, and featured 44009 from Nottingham to Crewe via Wath, Barnsley and the Woodhead route, and banked from Barnsley to Dodworth by 56005. 44008 then took the tour from Crewe to Nottingham via Chester, Shrewsbury, Wolverhampton, Walsall and Lichfield with assistance from 24133 between Crewe and Chester. (Now that is a combination I would have loved to have photographed). Above train at Killamarsh LMR. Mike. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 My spotting days began in early 1977 and regularly saw 44s at Corby on Toton - Lloyds trains. I can't recall a first spot of a 44 anywhere other than at Corby apart from 44007 (Passing Peterborough from the March line while we were waiting on an Edinburgh train, summer of 1977 I think it was) and according to my old ABCs, 44 002/ 4/ 5/ 8/ 9 must all have visited between 1977 and the end of their careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 44 008 Penyghent stands at Chester with the 'Farewell Class 44' railtour on 21st January 1978. 24 133 was put on the train at Crewe to provide steam heating for the long-suffering passengers... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 24 133 was put on the train at Crewe to provide steam heating for the long-suffering passengers... 24133, the last headcode class 24 in service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 44 004 and 008 both turned up at Rugby on the daily afternoon coal from Toton for Rugby Cement Works right at the end of their days on BR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I saw 44004/5/10 at York in 1974/5 working coal specials formed of 24.5t hoppers, which they came off at York Yard North before heading straight back south. Here is 44004 at York in 1978 https://www.flickr.com/photos/126693116@N06/16548194039/in/photolist-bDB4wD-8YZBwd-QpEoin-BP928A-rdiPyk-aA2sHK-ei5uge-ztCzj2-A4KZUA cheers 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2017 Here is 44004 at York in 1978 https://www.flickr.com/photos/126693116@N06/16548194039/in/photolist-bDB4wD-8YZBwd-QpEoin-BP928A-rdiPyk-aA2sHK-ei5uge-ztCzj2-A4KZUA cheers Excellent picture, I know Toton men signed York in the late 80s but not sure about the 70s as they would have to pass tinsley . A very interesting selection of stock next to the train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Class 44,s worked into Northampton with coal and mixed freight from Toton. Worked in over the line from Market Harborough Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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