NIRCLASS80 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 If the photos shown on the Rails of Sheffield site are of the actual model, there seems to be a mix of early and late Class 50 features. They couldn't even get the cab front handrails correct. Another purchase from Hornby stopped due to lack of detail sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Agreed, I have the original offering in the guise of D421 which is a much better representation of the class in original condition. I bought two on release and if anyone is interested, I'm willing to part with one for a lot less than current pricing. Please feel free to pm me for details. Edited July 8, 2017 by Black 5 Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2017 All I can see wrong is the cab front handrails which were unique to D400 and can be very easily corrected. I suspect it would have been too costly to adapt the tooling for one fairly minor feature of just one member of the entire class. At least this time there is no refurb grille in the side window!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 I don't thing the small fan on the roof is correct either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 The "Special Edition Pack" isn't very special either, it just consists of a band printed on the outer sleeve saying the 50 is Fifty! WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted July 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2017 Probably not a popular question, but does anyone have a list of the things I'd have to do to put it into 1994 final days condition? The more obvious things are: - additional roof panel; - headlights; - headcode box plating - front handrails (for any era) Is there much else? Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 Probably not a popular question, but does anyone have a list of the things I'd have to do to put it into 1994 final days condition? The more obvious things are: - additional roof panel; - headlights; - headcode box plating - front handrails (for any era) Is there much else? Many thanks It would be easier to pick a model with the later shell and just get it resprayed. The last 3 models that Hornby produced 50 024, 50 046 or 50 026 would be the best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2017 Orange cantrail stripe and modern overhead warning flashes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Probably not a popular question, but does anyone have a list of the things I'd have to do to put it into 1994 final days condition? The more obvious things are: - additional roof panel; - headlights; - headcode box plating - front handrails (for any era) Is there much else? You can add - radio roof pods - plate over the sandbox fillers - grilled window at no.1 end both sides - cantrail stripe, OHL flashes, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2017 Indeed. Find yourself a cheap refurb body shell example and respray. It has to be said rail blue with yellow ends is probably the easiest livery to respray even for a novice and the transfers are easily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) If the model is supposed to be representative of D400 when first in service, wouldn't it be without the MU cables on the cab ends? Was D400 one of the two fitted with MU right from the start? Edited July 9, 2017 by Hilux5972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2017 If the model is supposed to be representative of D400 when first in service, wouldn't it be without the MU cables on the cab ends? Was D400 one of the two fitted with MU right from the start? MLI 193 Photos on Pages 8 and 10 show D400 at Vulcan Foundry with MU cables (and Page 11 shows 401 with and 403 without) Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2017 Oh ok so 400 and 401 were fitted with it from the start. Any idea when the rest of the Class started to receive them? (Incidentally and completely OT, 400 & 401 were also the yard numbers for RMS Olympic and Titanic in 1910/1911 respectively, just in case anyone likes useless info) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2017 Oh ok so 400 and 401 were fitted with it from the start. Any idea when the rest of the Class started to receive them? (Incidentally and completely OT, 400 & 401 were also the yard numbers for RMS Olympic and Titanic in 1910/1911 respectively, just in case anyone likes useless info) MLI 193 says that all were internally fitted for MU from the start and ""after only a short perod the advantages of such operation became apparent" and the external nose end fittings were fitted - can't find any photos after 1969 in MLI with no mu kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2017 Thanks Gilbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 If the photos shown on the Rails of Sheffield site are of the actual model, there seems to be a mix of early and late Class 50 features. They couldn't even get the cab front handrails correct. Another purchase from Hornby stopped due to lack of detail sadly. It is not just the BR 50 they have got wrong, the Colas Railfreight still is red rather than Colas orange. Previously the Colas 56 was incorrect colour, but stated it would be altered for any further Colas releases. I was very excited about the change of direction Hornby took late last year, but now am getting increasingly disappointed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 It is not just the BR 50 they have got wrong, the Colas Railfreight still is red rather than Colas orange. Previously the Colas 56 was incorrect colour, but stated it would be altered for any further Colas releases. I was very excited about the change of direction Hornby took late last year, but now am getting increasingly disappointed again. Not sure what you mean? The Colas Railfreight what is red not orange? Assuming you mean the class 60 recently released, pictures of the bodyside orange I've seen look correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I need no excuse to link this grab shot of D416 without MW cables, making one of the rarest forays for the class in summer '68.... https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=46919 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 If the model is supposed to be representative of D400 when first in service, wouldn't it be without the MU cables on the cab ends? Was D400 one of the two fitted with MU right from the start? Think you've got that the wrong way around........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2017 Got what round the wrong way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) Do these pictures clear things up... Exiting the works for the first time, brand new in 1967... https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8148/7655212958_e423e24a00_b.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/355/30985704004_1c5e0d50fa_b.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/743/31679101372_30c56c984c_b.jpg Front end (apart from handrails), looks right, including the head codes ! Though the horn grills should be bronzed not blue. Body sides look right too, though not sure the roof is correct, there's the circular vent on the roof, which I don't see on the works photos, or others in the same time period. But otherwise looks pretty good. Edited July 11, 2017 by adb968008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2017 I think that circular vent is a separate part that can be hoiked off with little bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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