MattBlack33 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone had any reference pictures of warehouses with rail access in the modern image? I have an idea for a structure which has a single road running underneath a covered canopy which has its own platform/loading bay connected to a larger warehouse. I hope this makes sense? I could draw a crude outline if it isn't clear! Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 David I have had 2 railway journeys to Italy in the past 3 years, I was amazed at the number of factory sidings in Italy. Whilst travelling on both the UK's mainline and the French TGV none Now I think with the exception of heavy industry these sidings have long gone. I guess there is a prototype for everything and of course there is modellers licence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Creative Logistics Salford would be a good candidate though I don't think it's had any trains for several years, it's a modern corrugated tin shed. I can't find any pics on google though, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 If you Google search Prologis Park Coventry railway sidings it should bring up several images relating to what you've requested. Although no longer in use one siding ran under the canopy which had a long dock under cover where product was taken straight from warehouse to load into wagons. This was bottled water in this case and ceased around 2007 moving to Daventry. There are certainly a couple of images of 66's and wagons under the canopy. Regards Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH-UK Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 How modern? IIRC there were two warehouses across from Neasden LUL depot, one had a road running through it, the other was canopied. They were in use during the 90s but not much after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Trafford Park has an old Warehousing area with lines still in situ but taken out of use a long time ago, warhouses are used by lorries only now and some FLT flats are stored there. Tinsley yard was built over with some rail connected warehousing too Potters in Ely has some warehousing with lines alongside too. Dallam in Warrington not in regular use but still in situ (and there is a model on this very forum) Edited September 29, 2017 by woodenhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Do you mean this type of structure? I got the idea from Deanside Transit in Glasgow. In use during the Speedlink era and into EWS Enterprise, I believe. Google will produce images. Mal 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 How modern? IIRC there were two warehouses across from Neasden LUL depot, one had a road running through it, the other was canopied. They were in use during the 90s but not much after that. This was the Tibbett & Britten warehouse http://www.flickr.com/photos/railway_images/16106732707 http://www.flickr.com/photos/railway_images/15672766153 Quite an interesting and cramped site sandwiched between the two Chiltern routes. Enough traffic to justify an industrial shunter as well. http://www.flickr.com/photos/73789322@N04/23474938486 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stadman Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 South Marston, near Swindon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) DIRFT near Rugby has this sort of facility, I think in addition to container off-loading. Went past it yesterday, and there were two shunting locos on view, an ex-BR 08/09, in a very rough and ready 'Malcolm Logistics' livery, and a neat red Hunslet that I think is a 6WDH. K Edited September 29, 2017 by Nearholmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2017 There are still a few such structures around. And certainly plenty of good models of such on here. If the OP does not want to scratchbuild, US firm Pikestuff does a whole range of this type of steelclad building although I don't recall any of them having this style of canopy. They can easily be modified as they are designed for this. Being US, they are HO and clearances can be a bit limited. But you get round that by putting them up on a plinth of brickwork or blockwork which a lot of such buildings have in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 DIRFT definitely has lots of variety of loading, from containers to into warehouse loading iirc. There are multiple parts to it, some aren't rail connected at all. One of the Tesco warehouses at least is connected, and operated by DHL or Malcom, possibly Stobart I can't recall now (DHL until recently operated the freezer warehouse, which isn't rail connected, but now only do the road transport with Tesco taking control back of the frozen food warehouse (where my OH works)). It is an ever expanding site too. Parts are visible from the road sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2017 There is a shed of sorts on the Felixstowe Port lines with a track running through. Just south of Stonegrove road: https://goo.gl/maps/rd35c3MjWDK2 Load of container flats in the picture Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Trafford Park has an old Warehousing area with lines still in situ but taken out of use a long time ago, warhouses are used by lorries only now and some FLT flats are stored there. You make me feel old. It must have been the early 1990s when I was last there and rail traffic was running at that time. Some of the warehousing was brand new at that time and was the most modern around APR system, incorporating the very latest in stock control and stock movement. Where I was working handled pet food. It came in from Scotland in rail vans and was the moved into stock for despatch by road to local distribution centres. I have no idea when the rail traffic finished and thus no idea if this is modern enough. Bernard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 There is a shed of sorts on the Felixstowe Port lines with a track running through. Just south of Stonegrove road: https://goo.gl/maps/rd35c3MjWDK2 Load of container flats in the picture Keith Interestingly having worked within maybe 300m of that shed for well over twenty years I never actually knew it was there! In my defence there are some rather large stacks of containers blocking it from view... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 a neat red Hunslet that I think is a 6WDH. K It's a Thomas Hill, built for Whatley Quarry, then seeing use at Tunstead before refurbishment and use at DIRFT Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 It's a Thomas Hill, built for Whatley Quarry, then seeing use at Tunstead before refurbishment and use at DIRFT Jo Probably one of the types Judith Edge offer as a kit then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBlack33 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thank you all for your replies, I was not expecting such a large number of responses in such a short time! How modern? IIRC there were two warehouses across from Neasden LUL depot, one had a road running through it, the other was canopied. They were in use during the 90s but not much after that. It's mid 2000s to present so a little outside that timeframe. With it being a fictional layout I have in mind I am allowing myself some modellers' licence, however I'd like to base each element of the layout on a prototype where possible. Do you mean this type of structure? I got the idea from Deanside Transit in Glasgow. In use during the Speedlink era and into EWS Enterprise, I believe. Google will produce images. ews 5.8.17 004.JPG Mal Yeah that's exactly what I'm looking for; right timeframe and layout. I will get on with a Googling this evening, thanks for that. This was the Tibbett & Britten warehouse http://www.flickr.com/photos/railway_images/16106732707 http://www.flickr.com/photos/railway_images/15672766153 Quite an interesting and cramped site sandwiched between the two Chiltern routes. Enough traffic to justify an industrial shunter as well. http://www.flickr.com/photos/73789322@N04/23474938486 Again, exactly what I was looking for, thanks! I particularly like how it's been crammed into a cramped space. There are still a few such structures around. And certainly plenty of good models of such on here. If the OP does not want to scratchbuild, US firm Pikestuff does a whole range of this type of steelclad building although I don't recall any of them having this style of canopy. They can easily be modified as they are designed for this. Being US, they are HO and clearances can be a bit limited. But you get round that by putting them up on a plinth of brickwork or blockwork which a lot of such buildings have in reality. I'm wanting to scratchbuild but I've had a look at some of the rtr examples available to get an idea of how they're put together. Thanks! Thanks again guys you've all been extremely helpful! Check out my thread to see how I get on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Temeraire Posted September 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2017 David There was a covered loading dock as part of the Premier Distribution shed behind Exeter St Davids Station plat 6 until it burnt down a few years back, it was about the length of one Cargowaggon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 DIRFT definitely has lots of variety of loading, from containers to into warehouse loading iirc. There are multiple parts to it, some aren't rail connected at all. One of the Tesco warehouses at least is connected, and operated by DHL or Malcom, possibly Stobart I can't recall now (DHL until recently operated the freezer warehouse, which isn't rail connected, but now only do the road transport with Tesco taking control back of the frozen food warehouse (where my OH works)). It is an ever expanding site too. Parts are visible from the road sometimes. It certainly is expanding Kelly, the 'common line' which runs past the Sainsburys / Russell terminal will be crossing the A5 and be connected to the new warehouses currently being built on the other side of the road. There's been talk of the common line being doubled at some point to ease the flow of traffic to and from the site. The reception sidings laid in in 1997 alongside the Up and Down Slow lines will be expanded from five to eight running loops to cope with this build up in traffic, meaning the original railport area will not be used for loading / unloading in the future. When dragging a train from Sainsburys down to the reception lines we often have to wait while one of the shunt locos or a GBRf 66 does its stuff, it's becoming quite a bottleneck already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 It certainly is expanding Kelly, the 'common line' which runs past the Sainsburys / Russell terminal will be crossing the A5 and be connected to the new warehouses currently being built on the other side of the road. There's been talk of the common line being doubled at some point to ease the flow of traffic to and from the site. The reception sidings laid in in 1997 alongside the Up and Down Slow lines will be expanded from five to eight running loops to cope with this build up in traffic, meaning the original railport area will not be used for loading / unloading in the future. When dragging a train from Sainsburys down to the reception lines we often have to wait while one of the shunt locos or a GBRf 66 does its stuff, it's becoming quite a bottleneck already. Apparently the Tesco frozen warehouse was considered for rail connections, but the containers they'd need to use proved unreliable so they stuck with DHL to do the deliveries by road instead. DHL have since lost the operation contract (Tesco taken over the contracts), but still do the transport management and shipping to other locations, using a common pool of vehicles instead of dedicated (so a driver could take a load to a store in Leeds, and then take another non-Tesco load to Bury and then back down with another load before getting to DIRFT again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 A bit of a look round in real time trains will show how busy DIrft is - a model of the reception area, with all the sheds in the background, would make quite a good layout in N. The Northampton line tracks in the foreground would give possibilities for almost anything, including the odd steam special, if it was assumed that the Kilsby route was closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Creative Logistics Salford would be a good candidate though I don't think it's had any trains for several years, it's a modern corrugated tin shed. I can't find any pics on google though, sorry https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/23812750393/in/photolist-RsP4h9-ktX6SG-bS7EPM-bAiTet-9bSsTo-aJQdZT-bAiSUK-dBHzDL-fnQA3W-dYfuy1-e3fZQ8-pbdzPV-4yrKb3-XcAHR5-6R4SuP-dwAuxc-YfSE7F-s8u5v2-HbpPo8-duhBJW-pR659Z-g5GDa3-g3CXD5-g3CY31-g3Bobg-dXNySo-g3rZsC-Ydh3c5-dXJHc6-deVUzP-g3rZN9-g3BnHc-g3AsnA-kYXog8-93ziDG-93zo57-4utY7e-ecayZ5-oKJFVX-Chfz4X-YbC1WL-s6cMwh-4utXYX-D7mwDV-rbGg3i-4uxRvJ-CeYVVk-He8YbN-4Bpwib-bzzVBh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 It depends what you class as Modern Image... Gidea Park was most suitable to model: I have a raft of 1995 images on https://www.flickr.com/photos/55938574@N03/16589598141/in/album-72157650522858358/ As Operations and Traincrew Manager for Railfreight Distribution at Wembley, Gidea Park was on my patch with a daily trop service from Wembley. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 It's interesting that three of the locations mentioned were associated with one flow..... Neasden, proplogis and now DIRFT, - were for French bottled water which I believe still goes in cargowaggon. These trains are pretty long - if it's a shorter sort of enterprise thing you are after, I'd have a look at the metal box workings to. Worcester and elsewhere, couple of cargo wagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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