'CHARD Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 This is described as 'Excellent condition.' I've got a better idea, chuck the wretched mess straight into the bin. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Hornby-Triang-R342-Car-Transporter/202356987925?hash=item2f1d6a9815:g:BKoAAOSw3EVbJoZj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 There's an eBay topic for these sort of things, but it does look to be in excellent condition, whether it's a good model is something else... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 There's an eBay topic for these sort of things, but it does look to be in excellent condition, whether it's a good model is something else... LOL - I suggest you look again (unless my irony filter isn't working) - there's more missing than remains of the poor artefact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 Ah, having Googled what it should look like I see what you mean. What's there looks in good nick though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 It would be worth it as a source of spares but the postage makes it a bit pricey but if you want it is better priced than another seller of spare parts on ebay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I think someone wanted to model a 'Parrot' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2018 I think someone wanted to model a 'Parrot'All together now, This parrot is demised... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 I think someone wanted to model a 'Parrot' It's actually quite a good model of the BR Diagram 2/293 TIERWAG - predecessor to the Newton Chambers ANGLO-SCOTTISH CAR CARRIER; the latter was actually just an enclosed TIERWAG. The Ebay specimen is missing the central two deck section that raised and lowered to give access the depressed lower deck. I have not checked the Tri-ang moulding against a drawing, but it may well be that the Ebay example could be useful for correcting the inevitable compromises in the model. Very little can be said to have no use whatsoever in railway modelling - hence our carefully hoarded 'bits' boxes! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Looking at John's photos, I'm struck by the bogies, which seem to be a longer wheelbase than those on their covered cousins. Does anyone know if there was a difference? The concept of the lifting centre section was to be revived in the 1990s in the Finnish-built 'KSA' covered flats:- https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/K-Tops-codes/KSA-Cube-wagons/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 Looking at John's photos, I'm struck by the bogies, which seem to be a longer wheelbase than those on their covered cousins. Does anyone know if there was a difference? The bogies on the TIERWAG are the BR version of the GWR plate-frame wagon bogie, with a WB quoted on the BR diagram as 6'-7'' at 44'-0'' centres; (on a ferry wagon, I'll bet that the bogie WB was actually 2.0 metres). There were six BR TIERWAGS, nos. B909200 - B909205; though I believe there were some PO ones, too. Regards, John isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 The bogies on the TIERWAG are the BR version of the GWR plate-frame wagon bogie, with a WB quoted on the BR diagram as 6'-7'' at 44'-0'' centres; (on a ferry wagon, I'll bet that the bogie WB was actually 2.0 metres). There were six BR TIERWAGS, nos. B909200 - B909205; though I believe there were some PO ones, too. Regards, John isherwood. Herewith BR diagram. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 I found myself slipping down the slope and hanging on to everything, so, during my cartrain project 'gathering-in' phase, I managed to recycle the worst examples of R342s - literally in the plastics' wheelie bin. Probably not double figures, well not yet, and they weren't as bad as this one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Oi! I had two of those little beauties (not spoiled with "LMS" lettering) in my first electric train set (see "How It All Began...") topic in MM&M, so I have a certain affinity and hate to see them traduced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) This is described as 'Excellent condition.' I've got a better idea, chuck the wretched mess straight into the bin. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Hornby-Triang-R342-Car-Transporter/202356987925?hash=item2f1d6a9815:g:BKoAAOSw3EVbJoZj The seller appears to have done just that - "This listing was ended by the seller because the item was lost or broken". I must have one stashed away somewhere.... Edited July 7, 2018 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 The seller appears to have done just that - " This listing was ended by the seller because the item was lost or broken". I must have one stashed away somewhere.... Got a better one out of a skip at the local dump once, complete with a couple of minix cars on its bottom deck :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2018 How long did real ones last in service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBrit Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 How long did real ones last in service? Not as long as that model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 How long did real ones last in service? Not as long as that model. Agreed; the 'goods' version of these vehicles didn't seem to last anything as long as their enclosed 'passenger' counterparts. Photos seem to be very scarce; I couldn't find any on Paul Bartlett's site. I believe there was a loading accident involving the central lifting section, after which the wagons were used as single-deck carriers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Got a better one out of a skip at the local dump once, complete with a couple of minix cars on its bottom deck :-) IIRC mine has 6 Triumph 2000s in various garish colours. Unfortunately they are the later downgraded Minix vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 These were available from zodiac toys for 99p in the sell off of Hornby Canadian transcontinental stock they did in the early 1980s, fitted with a CP rail sign,type as used on the malt grain hoppers, they sold quickly!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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