F-UnitMad Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I'll stay on dry land, myself!! 😳🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post westerner Posted September 23, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 Bedford now finished . The firm is named after dad and my late brother and me. I've also built a Parkside Conflat A 22 1 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post westerner Posted September 26, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2022 Not only the Bedford finished but also the Conflat. 33 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 The Bedford looks great, you might want to add some ropes and folded up sheets on the bed, in the days of Flatbeds sheets and ropes were a must for most lorries. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 Oddly 37114 they are in the making. In fact would have been done today but we took advantage of the good weather to do some early autumnal gardening. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post westerner Posted October 10, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2022 Unfortunately you can't see the tarpaulin on the back of the Bedford in these two shots, but I know it's there. A couple of new wagons have been built since I last posted. 22 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post westerner Posted October 10, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2022 A couple of photos where you can see the tarp. 27 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Folding up a tarp like that was fairly easy, chucking it on the back of the wagon by yourself was pretty taxing I remember. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Folding up a tarp like that was fairly easy On the Railway I believe it was called "lapping". I don't know what the road term was - it was a dying art when I started driving for a living well over 30 years ago. I did some rope'n'sheet work myself, fortunately only on rigids, I never did a full artic trailer, and it's a rare thing to see these days. On Alan's model, I take it the dolly knots are on the driver's side, so we can't see them? 😉 😁 Edited October 10, 2022 by F-UnitMad 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 20 hours ago, westerner said: A couple of photos where you can see the tarp. Looks great, well executed. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted October 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2022 20 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: On the Railway I believe it was called "lapping". I don't know what the road term was - it was a dying art when I started driving for a living well over 30 years ago. I did some rope'n'sheet work myself, fortunately only on rigids, I never did a full artic trailer, and it's a rare thing to see these days. On Alan's model, I take it the dolly knots are on the driver's side, so we can't see them? 😉 😁 Get it right and with a double dolly you could do some damage to some loads... as you said it was a dying art, don't reckon half the young artic drivers could do that these days, tucking up the sheet with hospital corners like a bed and a pigs ear twist when the sheet rope was in the wrong place... Happy days 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, John Besley said: don't reckon half the young artic drivers could do that these days, Half - or more!! - of young artic drivers wouldn't know how to change gear these days!!! 🙄🙄😉 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34006 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: Half - or more!! - of young artic drivers wouldn't know how to change gear these days!!! 🙄🙄😉 Apparently,these days, it's all about fuel economy, the automated gearbox (NOT an automatic)and cruise control (use where ever possible) is the way forward.So speaketh the Haulage training experts.And we all know the definition of experts.............. atb Phil (43 years as an HGV driver) 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted October 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: Half - or more!! - of young artic drivers wouldn't know how to change gear these days!!! 🙄🙄😉 Best way to learn Morris Minor van - no syncro on 1st and not much on 2nd.... Always fun even in today's van (Citroën Dispatch) to drive without the clutch... get it right it goes in perfectly smoothly 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevel Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 hours ago, 34006 said: Apparently,these days, it's all about fuel economy, the automated gearbox (NOT an automatic)and cruise control (use where ever possible) is the way forward.So speaketh the Haulage training experts.And we all know the definition of experts.............. atb Phil (43 years as an HGV driver) "Expert" a wee drip under pressure. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 13 hours ago, John Besley said: Get it right and with a double dolly you could do some damage to some loads... as you said it was a dying art, don't reckon half the young artic drivers could do that these days, tucking up the sheet with hospital corners like a bed and a pigs ear twist when the sheet rope was in the wrong place... Happy days There’s still some sheet work on artic’s today mainly on fertiliser loads in tonne bags which must not be allowed to get wet during transportation. A lot of the flatbed trailer work today in the agricultural sector will involve sheet work with fertiliser and hay / straw. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 My late father had learnt roping and sheeting back in the mid fifties when he used to work the summer holidays with his uncle delivering materials for the new housing estates. He showed me how it was done when I was briefly messing around with vintage lorries forty years later. It's a very useful skill to have even though I don't need it that often, but it's saved quite a few motorcycles falling over in the back of vans. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34006 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 11 hours ago, gismorail said: There’s still some sheet work on artic’s today mainly on fertiliser loads in tonne bags which must not be allowed to get wet during transportation. A lot of the flatbed trailer work today in the agricultural sector will involve sheet work with fertiliser and hay / straw. Also much flat work is done in curtain siders with integral straps.Not only that,but the Men From the Ministry (VOSA) take a very dim view of any but the lightest loads being roped,ratchet straps and chains are the only alternative now. atb Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Meanwhile, back at Blackney - the appearance of the Davies' lorry seems to have put the wind up Frank Drake!! No sign of him loafing about in the goods yard for ages... 🤣🤣🤣 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, 34006 said: Also much flat work is done in curtain siders with integral straps.Not only that,but the Men From the Ministry (VOSA) take a very dim view of any but the lightest loads being roped,ratchet straps and chains are the only alternative now. atb Phil I collected some ex WD axles complete with wheels for a friend, along with panels and odd boxes of bits. The axles were ratchet strapped onto the back of the Bedford TA5 and everything else packed around them and roped, A sheet was put over the whole lot and roped down. Even though I wasn't running for hire and reward and the lorry was obviously an antique (1955) I was still responsible for the load. I've seen plenty of loads bulging out of curtain siders, especially when pallets have collapsed. Edited October 12, 2022 by MrWolf 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 13 hours ago, 34006 said: Also much flat work is done in curtain siders with integral straps.Not only that,but the Men From the Ministry (VOSA) take a very dim view of any but the lightest loads being roped,ratchet straps and chains are the only alternative now. atb Phil It’s very true about your (VOSA) comment and I think the problem nowerdays that if it’s not in the manual it must be wrong 😡 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted October 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, gismorail said: It’s very true about your (VOSA) comment and I think the problem nowerdays that if it’s not in the manual it must be wrong 😡 Not in that industry, but experience from my industry tells me that inspectors who haven’t actually done can make wrong decisions. But then inspectors too involved can also become blind to the facts (think 737-Max). Paul. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted October 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) Continental artics seem to have wooden slats that drop into pockets to retain the load which seems sense to me Edited October 13, 2022 by John Besley Schpelling 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 15 hours ago, John Besley said: Continental artics seem to have wooden slats that drop into pockets to retain the load which seems sense to me Having had experience with continental trailers as I have recently been pulling DFDS trailers out of Immingham the wooden slats are as much use as match wood. Because these trailers are made as light as possible due to the amount of ferry work they are involved in the whole upper structure is very flimsy and the posts that the wood slots into has a great deal of movement making any restraint minimal. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post westerner Posted November 8, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 Majot Hawkins has been taking his two dogs, Monty and Ike, for a walk and decided to have a rest at the station and chat to Porter Williams. 34 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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