RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2019 I spotted this at La Grange Kentucky but it looks rather British to me: https://goo.gl/maps/jnqccQEFYnr An ideas? Maybe RSH, Hudswell Clarke etc.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted February 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2019 Looks very European and there are buffers at the rear. I’ve seen pictures of Hunslet 0-4-0’s on LocoPhotos.com, one in 2019 at Mexicali, Mexico with both buffers and knuckle couplers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Certainly not American, considering everything about it. Though no idea why it would be in the US, AFAIK we didnt import any steam locomotives past the 1850s. Could be a special case of a Central or South American locomotive being bought to save from scrappers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 There is another picture here: https://www.lagrangemainstreet.org/trains--tracks.html Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 And here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:La_Grange,_KY,_Ohio_Valley_Railroad._Steam_Locomotive_No_7745.JPG Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Which leads to this: Lagrange Railroad Museum: https://lagrangerailroadmuseum.org/ Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 17, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) The logo on the side of the tank looks to be a copy of the later BR logo Edited February 17, 2019 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 And to this: http://www.steamlocomotive.info/linkdisplay.cfm?display=1749 Quote Robert Stephenson & Hawthorn built 0-6-0T No. 7745 Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, melmerby said: The loco on the side of the tank looks to be a copy of the later BR logo And totally inauthentic This has more: http://steamlocomotive.com/lists/searchdb.php?builder=Robert+Stephenson+%26+Hawthorne&country=USA Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 17, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, RLWP said: And to this: http://www.steamlocomotive.info/linkdisplay.cfm?display=1749 Richard My guess at a RSH loco was right, That doesn't happen often! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 17, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2019 The next question is Why is it in the US? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, melmerby said: My guess at a RSH loco was right, That doesn't happen often! She has that rugged look of an RSH tank No idea how she ended up on the Boyne Valley Railroad in the 1970s yet though. She wouldn't have been that old either, being built in 1952 Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, melmerby said: The next question is Why is it in the US? I'm on it... Some clues here perhaps? http://www.railroadmichigan.com/boynecity.html That has to be one of the strangest places to find BR crimson carriages! Richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) A little more: Quote Save the Duchess The "Flying Duchess" has landed in La Grange, KY as part of the nascent LaGrange Railroad Museum. The 0-6-0T "Duchess" was built in North East England in 1951 by Robert Stephenson & Hawthorns Ltd. as their number 7745. The large tank engine became Meaford #2 at the Meaford Power Station at Barlastone near Stone...part of the British Electric Authority. In the 1970's, Meaford #2 was shipped to the Boyne City Railroad in Grand Falls, MI along with 3 coaches and worked pulling excursions there. I have seen photos of the "Duchess" at the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in 2000. The "Duchess" arrived in La Grange in August of 2011, with a caboose and heavyweight coach also slated to become part of the Museum display. More information about the La Grange RR Museum can be found here: www.lagrange-rr-museum.org/index.php Richard Edited February 17, 2019 by RLWP 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 17, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2019 Thanks for tracking it down. Pity how the diner has been butchered. It looks like a typical heavy weight US clerestory roofed vehicle of 100 years ago I notice that the loco had been fitted knuckle couplers as well, which could be used with the Mk1s they imported. I wonder where the coaches went? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, melmerby said: Thanks for tracking it down. Pity how the diner has been butchered. It looks like a typical heavy weight US clerestory roofed vehicle of 100 years ago I notice that the loco had been fitted knuckle couplers as well, which could be used with the Mk1s they imported. I wonder where the coaches went? Probably scrapped. Isn't that what happened to much of Flying Scotsman's US train? Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, RLWP said: Probably scrapped. Isn't that what happened to much of Flying Scotsman's US train? Richard Two of the former Boyne City Mk1 coaches are at a station museum in Standish (Michigan, USA, not Wigan)......... http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=1687 and the other one was last recorded as heading for Kentucky in 2009 according to the VCT register. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Johann Marsbar said: Two of the former Boyne City Mk1 coaches are at a station museum in Standish (Michigan, USA, not Wigan)......... http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=1687 and the other one was last recorded as heading for Kentucky in 2009 according to the VCT register. That's amazing! Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Boyne Valley took two BR MK1's (24199 and 24551) both with NE numbers, since moved. Both totally authentic time capsules. I wonder if they were imported at the same time as the RSH? Be nice to have em' back particularly '199 as it's one of the few decent early lot examples of a MK1 SK left! Regards Guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, RLWP said: That's amazing! Richard The VCT website also still lists two LNER full brakes that were part of the Flying Scotsman 1969 tour train as being part of a restaurant at one of the LA film studios in recent years Don't forget these 2 LNER sleepers that are with the A4 Dwight D Eisenhower at Green Bay, Wisconsin as well..... They were supposedly part of his command train here in the UK during WW2, but all the bed linen in the sleeping compartments is genuine BR issue, and marked as such! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 18, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Johann Marsbar said: Two of the former Boyne City Mk1 coaches are at a station museum in Standish (Michigan, USA, not Wigan)......... Still there Aug 18: https://goo.gl/maps/uShQ7JD8jm42 https://goo.gl/maps/RbjKyksmxxD2 Edited February 18, 2019 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, RLWP said: I'm on it... Some clues here perhaps? http://www.railroadmichigan.com/boynecity.html That has to be one of the strangest places to find BR crimson carriages! Richard Finally! A prototype for the archetypal Hornby starter train set... (Easily approximated with R2439 and a couple of R4629 Mk1s, or some Hachette MK1s which are cheaper) Edited February 18, 2019 by Hroth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 18, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hroth said: Finally! A prototype for the archetypal Hornby starter train set... (Easily approximated with R2439 and a couple of R4629 Mk1s, or some Hachette MK1s which are cheaper) Complete with trestle bridge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted February 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Johann Marsbar said: The VCT website also still lists two LNER full brakes that were part of the Flying Scotsman 1969 tour train as being part of a restaurant at one of the LA film studios in recent years Don't forget these 2 LNER sleepers that are with the A4 Dwight D Eisenhower at Green Bay, Wisconsin as well..... They were supposedly part of his command train here in the UK during WW2, but all the bed linen in the sleeping compartments is genuine BR issue, and marked as such! I think it's just a case of only BR linen being available when it was shipped to the US. The train is genuine. This pic shows a bit of it in LNER teak (it's on a Daily Excess page - I've seen the pic elsewhere on the web but can't find it elsewhere at the mo') https://www.express.co.uk/news/history/949527/ww2-train-defeat-hitler-secret-covert-operation-eisenhower-churchill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 There was an article about the train in a 1970s Railway Magazine (or possibly Railway World). They wanted a typical British train and bought the locomotive in full working order. Not many of them available in the early/mid 1970s. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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