johndon Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi John, Yes, there is a switch under the wagon. Cheers! Fran Thanks Fran, much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Ordered some of British Steel liveried ones, remember them well from times at Margam, Canton and Newport 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted May 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2020 The coupling between wagons looks like a kadee without the pin hanging down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted May 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Dont know if any have seen the pictures of these on Consett trains in the 70,s with 37 traction at http://southpelawjunction.co.uk/wp/?page_id=631 Edited May 15, 2020 by ERIC ALLTORQUE goof 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 10:00, Accurascale Fran said: reflect the final years of service When did they go out of service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) I know Kernow did some 37/9's with Bachmann but I hope that you might consider them in the future to go with British steel liveried wagons. The picture is from my collection not the video as sadly my dad had not yet got a camcorder when we were going to south wales. Of course if you do decided to do them PLEASE PLEASE give it a couple of years so I can save up for them!!!!!! Edited May 17, 2020 by slg 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Dame it, I might have to order a mixed rake or ARC and Yeoman wagons now. I think I need to stop scanning all my old photos into my computer, too many good examples keep cropping up. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted May 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2020 The Kernow 37/9s were as preserved. All the more reason for a late 80s / early 90s versions 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 17/05/2020 at 21:08, slg said: Dame it, I might have to order a mixed rake or ARC and Yeoman wagons now. I think I need to stop scanning all my old photos into my computer, too many good examples keep cropping up. that is what I have done, ordered 1x ARC outer, 1x ARC inner & 1x Yeoman outer packs. Also building a single S Kits PHA to add into the mix. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 If you are after variety and something to mix with your Accurascale PTAs, ARC had 16 PXAs built that ran with the PTAs. Same same but different! https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/arcaggregatebox PR27001 to PR27016. They ran on a mixture of Schlieren and Axle Motion bogies. I've made a few for Whatley and am working on doing some more based around my own kit using the Silouette Cameo cutter and styrene. Will have to write it up... Guy 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 @Accurascale Fran Hi there, I'm hoping you can help me. I have 15 of the wagons on pre-order and I'm currently making a S-Kits PHA to add to the rake. So I can make them compareabe, are you able to tell me the height to the top of the kadee/buckeye and how far the end of the buckeye is from the wagon body? many thanks darryl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted May 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 2 hours ago, daz9284 said: @Accurascale Fran Hi there, I'm hoping you can help me. I have 15 of the wagons on pre-order and I'm currently making a S-Kits PHA to add to the rake. So I can make them compareabe, are you able to tell me the height to the top of the kadee/buckeye and how far the end of the buckeye is from the wagon body? many thanks darryl Hi Darryl, 15.8mm from railhead to top of buckeye/kadee & 8.4mm from buffer beam to leading edge of buckeye. Cheers! Fran 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 On 24/05/2020 at 12:42, Accurascale Fran said: Hi Darryl, 15.8mm from railhead to top of buckeye/kadee & 8.4mm from buffer beam to leading edge of buckeye. Cheers! Fran excellent, many thanks, really appreciated :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 17/05/2020 at 20:39, slg said: I know Kernow did some 37/9's with Bachmann but I hope that you might consider them in the future to go with British steel liveried wagons. The picture is from my collection not the video as sadly my dad had not yet got a camcorder when we were going to south wales. Of course if you do decided to do them PLEASE PLEASE give it a couple of years so I can save up for them!!!!!! Even Rail Express have asked the question in this months model newsdesk section. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack97m Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Hi all this will be my first post on rmweb so please go easy on me. I’m looking at building a layout based on South Wales in 1990, would the grey and orange run in the same train as the blue and orange or would they have all been the same livery. I’m sorry if this has already been asked but when I had a quick look through I couldn’t see anything thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richscylla Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Hi Jack, there are some videos where this trains are seen and it shows some of the grey and orange with the British Steel ones. Around 4:30 in this video there are some I think! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted June 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jack97m said: Hi all this will be my first post on rmweb so please go easy on me. I’m looking at building a layout based on South Wales in 1990, would the grey and orange run in the same train as the blue and orange or would they have all been the same livery. I’m sorry if this has already been asked but when I had a quick look through I couldn’t see anything thanks I dont recall it being asked before. I would say it is highly likely. I have seen photos but not 1990. It is a question of when the last of them were painted into the newer livery, if indeed they all were. Edited June 7, 2020 by BR Blue Spelling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just found this picture from 1987 showing some wagons already showing off their new bright blue livery. https://twitter.com/salopianlyne/status/1254549163406213120 Plus I think that in the late 90's some of the wagons were in the old livery as maybe some of the old Ravenscraig wagons were brought in to support the fleet after it closed in 92. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Now do I order some Yeoman wagons Or is it possible I could just buy 1 arc wagon with no bogies please! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) Great photos! That last shot at Whatley is of a PXA. As mentioned on page 16, these are 'same same but different'! PXA on the left, PTA on the right. Guy Edited June 8, 2020 by lyneux 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I was aware that it was not the same type, but it is nice to see both types next to each other I just like the idea for a small repair area, but probably using an old Lima model would be a cheaper option and leave these wagons in a working train. Luckily have some Lima wagons from when they were around £5 each new! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, slg said: I just like the idea for a small repair area, but probably using an old Lima model would be a cheaper option and leave these wagons in a working train. Agreed! Your photo reminds me, I need to add the distinctive supports that were used to rest the PTAs on when bogies were being swapped to my 'todo' backlog for Whatley. There are some good photos of them from inside the wagon repair workshop in the Rolling Stone video. Guy P.S. The Lima wagons are accurate for the Immingham wagons but they look quite different from the ones Accurascale are doing (the body profile, flush solebar, bogies and ribs make them look quite different). From Huw Millington's Flickr: Edited June 9, 2020 by lyneux 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Ravenscraig wagons at Carlisle. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 4 hours ago, lyneux said: P.S. The Lima wagons are accurate for the Immingham wagons but they look quite different from the ones Accurascale are doing (the body profile, flush solebar, bogies and ribs make them look quite different). From Huw Millington's Flickr: As I recall, the Lima bogies are closer to 3.5mm rather than 4mm scale as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, johndon said: As I recall, the Lima bogies are closer to 3.5mm rather than 4mm scale as well... Yes, they are very under-nourished! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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