Imaginary Locomotives

[Gibbo675]

I like it! I hope it runs well. Can we see it hauling coaches, please?

Sorry, no layout at the moment. I donated the last one to Liverpool MRC when I moved house a couple of years ago which is the reason my photos are taken on a piece of track on the kitchen floor.

[Gibbo675]

I LOVE it! 

 

Just the sort of thing we'd have slung together from existing bits and pieces back then.

 

Perhaps as a 'Traction Test Unit'? We might have put it in a consist behind some poor unsuspecting loco or unit under test and run it in reverse to put extra load on the test loco.   

Hi Kit,

 

My thoughts were traction motor excitation test bed with all sorts of divert systems but its good to hear suggestions.

 

Gibbo. 

[Vanguard 5374]

 

Building a model of the proposed "Abigail", a modern 15" gauge 2-8-0T* of very respectable proportions.

 

* - Whilst my model will be built as a 2-6-2T, the prototype is a 2-8-0T. More information here: http://www.steam-loco-design.co.uk/zb_article_6.html

[Corbs]

One for Gibbo675, a rough bash at the 'Rigg' (Small Fell) made from a Class 45 and 08.

 

Annoying Bachmann doesn't do side-on product photos like Hornby does (which are ideal for photoshopping) so this was the best I could find, quite low-res. But I hope you like it all the same.

 

[Gibbo675]

One for Gibbo675, a rough bash at the 'Rigg' (Small Fell) made from a Class 45 and 08.

 

Annoying Bachmann doesn't do side-on product photos like Hornby does (which are ideal for photoshopping) so this was the best I could find, quite low-res. But I hope you like it all the same.

 

Smell1.jpg

You are a GENT !

[Thunderforge]

Sadly the Flux Capacitor Unit never saw its full potential in helping the train stick to it’s timetable because nothing on the East Coast Main Line ever made it to eighty eight miles an hour after nationalisation...

Edited July 1, 2018 by Thunderforge

[LNWR18901910]

One for Gibbo675, a rough bash at the 'Rigg' (Small Fell) made from a Class 45 and 08.

 

Annoying Bachmann doesn't do side-on product photos like Hornby does (which are ideal for photoshopping) so this was the best I could find, quite low-res. But I hope you like it all the same.

 

Smell1.jpg

Nice locomotive! Is there a chance of making it into a working 00-Gauge model?

[The Johnster]

Sadly the Flux Capacitor Unit never saw its full potential in helping the train stick to it’s timetable because nothing on the East Coast Main Line ever made it to eighty eight miles an hour after nationalisation...

 

I met a bloke called Bill Hoole once who might have not agreed with you!

[JimC]

Inspired by a thread elsewhere on the forum this imaginary GWR 2-6-4T has a much shortened Castle boiler barrel and a standard Castle firebox.

[Wild Boar Fell]

Inspired by a thread elsewhere on the forum this imaginary GWR 2-6-4T has a much shortened Castle boiler barrel and a standard Castle firebox.

GWR264T.jpg

 

Looks good to me, would a short Castle be a Fort or Turret?

[JimC]

Looks good to me, would a short Castle be a Fort or Turret?

Bearing in mind civil war history, maybe it would be slighted [grin].

[Clive Mortimore]

 

On 27/06/2018 at 08:04, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said:

Not unique - Clive 'plastic wrangler' Mortimore has built one. 

 

Clive's built everything there ever was and ever might have been out of left overs, the man's a genius.

They have taken away the disagree button.

I am sure I have posted these elsewhere. I haven't done anything with these for years they are still awaiting me to finish them off.

 

D900, Met-Cam and NBL B-B 2200hp, loco for the reserve Pullman set kept in case the blue Pullman failed and D700, 2,700hp EE Type 4 had EE not had to alter their in house style to make the class 50s. 

 

D700 on its own.

 

D1309, proposed EE Type 4 with two 9 cylinder Deltic engines, a Twin Baby Deltic?

 

D5912, proposed re-engine of a Baby Deltic with a 18 cylinder Deltic engine.

 

D6207, proposed EE Type 2 with uprated 8 cylinder V engine. 

 

D6407, proposed 1500hp A1A-A1A Type 3 with 12 cylinder engine, later developments in the design phase lead to the class 37. 

 

D8709 and D9402, both are proposals for a type 3 with the 18 cylinder Deltic engine.

 

D6001, proposed Deltic engined hydraulic locomotive with two 9 cylinder engines. The book I got the idea of this from has a drawing of a really ugly looking loco, the drawing office at Vulcan Works would have revised the cab with the in house look.

 

Last EE design, D421 in green livery had Dr Beeching not introduced his blue livery. It is with Brush Type 5 D9621 and BR Type 5 D9838. I have a blue class 50 and only just realised that is also D421.

 

Other makes of loco to follow.

Edited November 19, 2023 by Clive Mortimore

[Clive Mortimore]

These have had less work done on them than the EE locos.

 

D71xx, BR Type 3 1500hp. A BR version of the class 33, a cross between class 24 and 25/3 bodies with Sr type headcode in the middle window.

 

D72xx, BR Type 3 1700hp. BR's own answer to the class 37 with a uprated 8 cylinder Sulzer engine.

 

D79xx, BR type 2 1250hp A1A-A1A for lightly laid lines.

 

D12xx, BR type 4. BR's own answer to a lighter Type 4 had the Brush 4 not been produced.

 

D14xx, BRCW Type 4. This is what Lion could have looked like had the design team not stepped in.

 

D666, NBL Diesel Electric Type 4.

 

D92xx, Bayer Peacock Type 5. This one of many proposals for high powered diesel hydraulic locos. 

 

D73xx, Brush Type 2, a Bo-Bo loco with a 6 cylinder Sulzer engine, an alternative to the BR and BRCW class 25s and 27s.

 

D77xx another Brush Type 2 with a Sulzer engine.

 

Finally D9621 and D9838 again

Edited November 19, 2023 by Clive Mortimore

[Gibbo675]

These have had less work done on them than the EE locos

Hi Clive,

 

You have had some fun there with a good lot of cut and shuts. I like the green class 58 it makes a difference to my blue one posted a page or two back and also the Super Hymek which looks as though it really means business.

 

Gibbo.

[The Johnster]

These look quite the part for Modernisation Plan and derived locos, but I have to mention, in his defence (which is very rare for me), that Dr Beeching had nothing to do with the Corporate Blue livery, which did not appear until a year after he'd left even as an experiment (the XP64 train).  It was another 2 years before it's general adoption.

[cctransuk]

These look quite the part for Modernisation Plan and derived locos, but I have to mention, in his defence (which is very rare for me), that Dr Beeching had nothing to do with the Corporate Blue livery, which did not appear until a year after he'd left even as an experiment (the XP64 train).  It was another 2 years before it's general adoption.

 

Funny though - given the VERY close match between ICI corporate blue-green and Rail Blue - Dr. B. came from ICI !!

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[Gibbo675]

One for Gibbo675, a rough bash at the 'Rigg' (Small Fell) made from a Class 45 and 08.

 

Annoying Bachmann doesn't do side-on product photos like Hornby does (which are ideal for photoshopping) so this was the best I could find, quite low-res. But I hope you like it all the same.

 

Smell1.jpg

Hello Corbs,

 

Just discovered this to add to your computerised doodling above.

 

 

All you need is a class 08, a class 45, some plasticard and some filler. I've every confidence in you and your latest kettle is coming on well.

 

Gibbo.

[Budgie]

All you need is a class 08, a class 45, some plasticard and some filler. I've every confidence in you and your latest kettle is coming on well.

I wouldn't mind a couple of those. I'd better get converting!

[cheesysmith]

That little fell would be better made from the old lima 08 model. We would finally have a good use for the warp speed shunter chassis.

 

As to the other cut and shuts clive has made, most would have been made redundant if BR had persivered with Sulzer instead of the panic that came with the lass 47 engine problems. Sulzer had made a R series of engines, a modification of the LDA series with 4 vavle heads and a higher RPM, but being made from the stronger inliine engines and not the twin bank, would have avoided the problems the twin bank engines had when RPM was uprated. The engine was almost ready to be fitted into a 25, set at 1700BHP (a 25 with type 3 output). The same engine in a 33 in 8 cylinder from would have given a 2300BHP loco for 78 tonnes with ETH. It would have been a perfect high speed passenger loco. Or how about a inline 10 cylinder version in a Co-Co class 47 body. Would have been lighter than the twin bank used, with a BHP equal to the twin bank C version at 2750BHP.

[Corbs]

I had a thought, does anybody have a spare min and the needed graphics program, to make a 4-4-4 tank engine using the GC director class loco.

 

How's this?

 

 

Thanks to James Harrison as I know nothing about GCR locos and was able to stick a D10 front end onto an L1!

[Compound2632]

able to stick a D10 front end onto an L1!

 

Chunky!

 

Actually, rather better-looking than the L1 front end.

Edited July 9, 2018 by Compound2632

[Corbs]

Chunky!

 

Actually, rather better-looking than the L1 front end.

Well to be honest I only changed it below the running plate and the smokebox saddle - the rest is the same, but the main difference is removing the splasher.

and the other reference

[Gibbo675]

That little fell would be better made from the old lima 08 model. We would finally have a good use for the warp speed shunter chassis.

 

 

I remember my fold up to wall layout in the bedroom in the 1970's well, my brothers Lima 09 was faster than pretty much every other loco we had and would pull better than some of the actual main line types that were fitted with traction tyres. Mind you it had a serious chunk of lead inside it !

 

Gibbo.

[russ p]

That little fell would be better made from the old lima 08 model. We would finally have a good use for the warp speed shunter chassis.

 

As to the other cut and shuts clive has made, most would have been made redundant if BR had persivered with Sulzer instead of the panic that came with the lass 47 engine problems. Sulzer had made a R series of engines, a modification of the LDA series with 4 vavle heads and a higher RPM, but being made from the stronger inliine engines and not the twin bank, would have avoided the problems the twin bank engines had when RPM was uprated. The engine was almost ready to be fitted into a 25, set at 1700BHP (a 25 with type 3 output). The same engine in a 33 in 8 cylinder from would have given a 2300BHP loco for 78 tonnes with ETH. It would have been a perfect high speed passenger loco. Or how about a inline 10 cylinder version in a Co-Co class 47 body. Would have been lighter than the twin bank used, with a BHP equal to the twin bank C version at 2750BHP.

A ten cylinder inline would be one long engine in a 47 , I assume the cylinder size was going to be the same with the R series?

I suppose some equipment for the radiator compartment could have been placed down the back of the engine as it would be a lot narrower to keep the overall length about the same

[cheesysmith]

Well, the radiator compartment doesn`t acctually house the radiator, that is in the roof. The radiator compartment has things like the brake rack/vavles in there, for example the removal of the drain tank from the class 47s when converted to dual brakes meaning the requirment to change the radiators themselves and the moveable shutters to protect the raiators from freezing. And BRCW managed to fit a inline 8 cylinder engine into the same body used for a inline 6 by the removal of the need for a steam heating boiler.