Osgood Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 On 14/10/2020 at 22:29, charliewolf said: Hi, I was employed at Norton Barrow metals scrap yard 1977 - 1981. I have posted a few pictures from my time there on flickr. Hope they are of interest. Can you give some directions? Tried a few searches on Flickr but couldn’t find this picture or similar. Thanks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted November 15, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 The exit/entry to the fiddle yard. Another building will be going where the glue bottles are. The mobile cafe thingy is also featured. This started out as an Oxford diecast popcorn stall. I took the sign from the roof and got rid of all the garish lettering and stripes. I need to make a new jockey wheel for it as the one that was on it became detached and disappeared into the mess that is my shed. Moving to the left is more of the lorry parking area. There are the remains of concrete bases and girders to suggest that some sort of works has been demolished on this site. The ground cover looks a bit too rough at the moment but the dilute PVA isn't even dry yet and something will be done to improve the look of it. Even further over and there are more concrete bases and cut down steelwork, plus the last remaining building standing. This will be blended in and will be mostly overgrown. Fencing posts going up at the edge of the works yard. The foliage won't be as abundant once I've hoovered up the excess. 23 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Great attention to detail Dave, all of which makes it very convincing. This is shaping up beautifully. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted November 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) The lorry park area reminds me of the old Western Fuel Co. yard in Bristol. I did a photo survey of it in 2009 before it was built upon, you could see plenty of stone setts, concrete areas, remains of buildings and loading docks, the base for a crane stacking conveyor etc. Nice work. Edited November 16, 2020 by Corbs 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Asterix2012 Posted November 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2020 22 hours ago, Ruston said: The exit/entry to the fiddle yard. Another building will be going where the glue bottles are. The mobile cafe thingy is also featured. This started out as an Oxford diecast popcorn stall. I took the sign from the roof and got rid of all the garish lettering and stripes. I need to make a new jockey wheel for it as the one that was on it became detached and disappeared into the mess that is my shed. Moving to the left is more of the lorry parking area. There are the remains of concrete bases and girders to suggest that some sort of works has been demolished on this site. The ground cover looks a bit too rough at the moment but the dilute PVA isn't even dry yet and something will be done to improve the look of it. Even further over and there are more concrete bases and cut down steelwork, plus the last remaining building standing. This will be blended in and will be mostly overgrown. Fencing posts going up at the edge of the works yard. The foliage won't be as abundant once I've hoovered up the excess. Why not prop up the tow bar on some bricks or breezeblocks, jockey wheels break and it would fit in with the ambience. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2020 The semi-circular concrete pads in the last pic, were they for a crane or a the running wheel of one of the pivoted coal bunker loader jobbies? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Stacking conveyor wheels. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted November 16, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Tullygrainey said: Great attention to detail Dave, all of which makes it very convincing. This is shaping up beautifully. Nice to see that someone thinks it's alright. I'm not convinced it's any good, myself. I suppose once I get some more detailing in it might grow on me. The derelict land needs some piles of rubble, an old sofa, a mattress and some discarded calor gas bottles. Waste paper from the food thing (it's competely gone out of my head as to what it is called!) that has blown into the fence - that sort of thing to give it that air of dereliction. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Ruston said: Nice to see that someone thinks it's alright. I'm not convinced it's any good, myself. I suppose once I get some more detailing in it might grow on me. The derelict land needs some piles of rubble, an old sofa, a mattress and some discarded calor gas bottles. Waste paper from the food thing (it's competely gone out of my head as to what it is called!) that has blown into the fence - that sort of thing to give it that air of dereliction. Perhaps a dead shopping cart or two to give it that “urban blight” flavour? Cheers, David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Ruston said: Nice to see that someone thinks it's alright. I'm not convinced it's any good, myself. I suppose once I get some more detailing in it might grow on me. Don't knock yourself - it's looking great. Don't forget it was a lump of plywood barely 2 months ago. One end of my layout, smaller than this, has taken 15 years to look less complete than that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted November 19, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 17/11/2020 at 08:23, Barclay said: Don't knock yourself - it's looking great. Don't forget it was a lump of plywood barely 2 months ago. One end of my layout, smaller than this, has taken 15 years to look less complete than that. Lump of plywood to finished layout in 2 months = slapdash. That's kind of how it feels because I've bodged and used so much recycled tat, and stuff from the scrap bin on this. The only new stuff is the track, the Skytrex low-relief building and a pack of Wills corrugated asbestos. Having said that, I've just added some more grass and fencing and I'm liking it more. By Sunday it should be back in its rightful place and connected up to the scrapyard board and unless something's gone wrong with the wiring I should be running trains. Once I get the coil wagons on it, I'm sure I'll like it even more. I would have had the wagons finished but the transfers I ordered were lost in the post. I'll take some photos on Sunday. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ruston said: Lump of plywood to finished layout in 2 months = slapdash. That's kind of how it feels because I've bodged and used so much recycled tat, and stuff from the scrap bin on this. The only new stuff is the track, the Skytrex low-relief building and a pack of Wills corrugated asbestos. Having said that, I've just added some more grass and fencing and I'm liking it more. By Sunday it should be back in its rightful place and connected up to the scrapyard board and unless something's gone wrong with the wiring I should be running trains. Once I get the coil wagons on it, I'm sure I'll like it even more. I would have had the wagons finished but the transfers I ordered were lost in the post. I'll take some photos on Sunday. Hi Dave, I do wish my version of slapdash was that good ! Gibbo. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted November 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2020 This is the last piece of the puzzle. It fits where the glue bottles were stood, in the previous post. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted November 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2020 I got it all together sooner than expected. It all works, too! Don't park here, if you know what's good for you... 27 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simonmcp Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 That last B&W shot, my brain refuses to accept it's not a prototype picture, amazing stuff and so quick as well. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, simonmcp said: That last B&W shot, my brain refuses to accept it's not a prototype picture, amazing stuff and so quick as well. I completely agree. It helps that we sort of expect historic images to be in B&W, so it seems appropriate. Dave has also performed an often forgotten trick of having the backscene images correct for the intended viewing angle, in this case from ground level. A lot of exhibition layouts get this wrong; the images of real buildings are photographed from ground level but when we view the layout from perhaps 2' above, the perspective doesn't work. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted November 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Northmoor said: I completely agree. It helps that we sort of expect historic images to be in B&W, so it seems appropriate. Dave has also performed an often forgotten trick of having the backscene images correct for the intended viewing angle, in this case from ground level. A lot of exhibition layouts get this wrong; the images of real buildings are photographed from ground level but when we view the layout from perhaps 2' above, the perspective doesn't work. Ground level is how we usually see railways in real life and is my favourite way of photographing my models. It helps that I use 3-link couplings and have to design the layout so that I can get in with the pole. The area where I sometimes rest my hand when coupling also gives me somewhere to place the camera. I need to put a telephone pole in the gap where the backscene sheets don't meet up! 22 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted November 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2020 I'm really liking this layout extension, now. It makes operation so much more varied and interesting. Now that it's all come together it just needs some more detailing The workshop and loco shed need finishing too but I'm running trains again and have cleared the workbench to do a couple of loco commissions, so the buildings will have to wait for now. I stuck an ordinary decoder that I had lying around into the British Oak class 08 and it runs beautifully. I can now run the trip from BR into the loop and so this is the first BR loco that I've run on OO for almost 30 years. I think it's just got itself bumped up the list for the fitment of sound. I really need a brake van now. The 08 can't run into the scrapyard due to some tight clearances that would be hit by the flycranks, so I'll put up a board that will read "No British Railways locomotives to pass this board". There will also be one at the bridge end of the loop requiring drivers to stop and phone the signalman before proceeding. I'll be needing some BTC registration plates for the Shelby Group's locomotives. 18 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I might have a couple of suitable surplus brake vans. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted November 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, 5050 said: I might have a couple of suitable surplus brake vans. Excellent. I will visit with a pole and magnet/grabber and a tape measure to collect one. Meanwhile... The Coil C wagons have their numbering and lettering. They aren't even dry as I type, so weathering has yet to be addded. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 The extension is looking great Dave, the weedy ground is particularly effective. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted November 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2020 Shocvans for carrying tinplate for the manufacture of paint tins. These have been on the bench for about a month now but they are, at last, finished. Both are Red Panda kits but the second one runs on a Parkside underframe. They join a pair of GWR-designed Shocvans. 19 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 22/11/2020 at 19:47, Ruston said: I'm really liking this layout extension, now. It makes operation so much more varied and interesting. Now that it's all come together it just needs some more detailing The workshop and loco shed need finishing too but I'm running trains again and have cleared the workbench to do a couple of loco commissions, so the buildings will have to wait for now. I stuck an ordinary decoder that I had lying around into the British Oak class 08 and it runs beautifully. I can now run the trip from BR into the loop and so this is the first BR loco that I've run on OO for almost 30 years. I think it's just got itself bumped up the list for the fitment of sound. I really need a brake van now. The 08 can't run into the scrapyard due to some tight clearances that would be hit by the flycranks, so I'll put up a board that will read "No British Railways locomotives to pass this board". There will also be one at the bridge end of the loop requiring drivers to stop and phone the signalman before proceeding. I'll be needing some BTC registration plates for the Shelby Group's locomotives. I love this shot- it puts me very much in mind of the Middleton Railway in Leeds, the preserved line that used to exchange goods traffic with BR through the 70's. There's a shot in the book "From Rag to Railway" of a blue 08 squeezing around the stupidly tight curves onto the branch with a cargowagon carrying ex-Woodhead Electric bogies, shipped over from a scrappers in Holland. The last transferred freight in the 80's I think. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted November 26, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 I've got the mobile cafe fixed and in situ. Chain shunting in progress. 17 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBRJ Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 The Cafe looks like I have probably been there in the past Maybe I was there to watch the chain shunt I spy going off.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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