Peasevern Yard - 7mm BR Blue shunting layout

[Rugd1022]

On 06/05/2023 at 15:19, 37114 said:

No real progress on the layout but a couple of projects are on the go.

 

7017 is now back in one piece awaiting weathering which I will start later in the weekend.  I chose 7017 as it had vinyl numerals for a bit and was the last Hymek in service. I had to remove the headboard clips not fitted to the earlier Hymek which was fine as I needed to paint the full yellow ends

 

Also on the workbench is a Steve Beattie Dodge Crew van, this has it's own thread in the Road Vehicles section.

 

Very nice rendition of 7017 there, it's remarkable how different the Heljan model looks with the headboard clips removed, but just for accuracy the buffer beam cowling should be black 😉. 7017 was repainted and had the vinyl numbers added in the Factory at Old Oak on June '74 and its other claim to fame was being the last Hymek to work a passenger train... I hope you don't mind me posting these photos of it in the period you've captured it...

 

 

 

 

I did 7017 a few years ago in 4mm using the excellent Heljan model...

 

 

 

[37114]

36 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

 

Very nice rendition of 7017 there, it's remarkable how different the Heljan model looks with the headboard clips removed, but just for accuracy the buffer beam cowling should be black 😉. 7017 was repainted and had the vinyl numbers added in the Factory at Old Oak on June '74 and its other claim to fame was being the last Hymek to work a passenger train... I hope you don't mind me posting these photos of it in the period you've captured it...

 

 

 

 

I did 7017 a few years ago in 4mm using the excellent Heljan model...

 

 

 

Nice modelling there Nidge and thanks for sharing the photos. You are dead right re the bufferbeam surrounds, I noticed after I posted that picture and have subsequently painted them black as they didn't look right in blue so I am glad I got it right in the end, next time I get some stock out I will take some photos of the finished Hymek! Thankfully I had to repaint the ends so I had a great incentive to bin the clips. D7017 having vinyl numbers was the deal clincher for me, I also did it in 4mm and would never have done it if it meant doing cast numerals.

 

 

[Rugd1022]

1 hour ago, 37114 said:

Nice modelling there Nidge and thanks for sharing the photos. You are dead right re the bufferbeam surrounds, I noticed after I posted that picture and have subsequently painted them black as they didn't look right in blue so I am glad I got it right in the end, next time I get some stock out I will take some photos of the finished Hymek! Thankfully I had to repaint the ends so I had a great incentive to bin the clips. D7017 having vinyl numbers was the deal clincher for me, I also did it in 4mm and would never have done it if it meant doing cast numerals.

 

 

 

Thanks. I remember trying to fit a full set of etched numbers to my first Heljan 00 Hymek, it was the proverbial nightmare! For the next few I just used white serif style rub on transfers and wafted over them with a 2B pencil to make them look vaguely metallic, from a few feet away it looked passable. For anyone modelling the period covering the last year or so of the Hymeks though, 7017 is a shoe in. I wonder if moulded plastic numbers would be a better solution to renumbering both scales of the Heljan model...? They'd probably be much easier to apply and paint.

 

Another shot of 7017 at Old Oak, probably taken not long after the June '74 makeover...

 

 

And at Taunton after withdrawal and purchase in preservation by the Diesel Electric Group...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rugd1022]

Another shot of 7017 inside the Factory at Old Oak, probably late '74 / early '75... '8A23' was one of the local trip jobs working out of Acton Yard...

 

 

 

[37114]

22 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

Another shot of 7017 inside the Factory at Old Oak, probably late '74 / early '75... '8A23' was one of the local trip jobs working out of Acton Yard...

 

 

 

That would make a lovely diorama, quite a challenge but a rewarding one to model the inside...

[47606odin]

21 hours ago, 37114 said:

There is an expression "You can't un-see what you have already seen" and that was definitely the case with the Wasp stripes on the cab of the Dapol class 08 which are too narrow. While I have done a few resprays over the years I have stayed away from Wasp stripes due to the need to get the angles 100% spot on.

 

On @47606odin s Hither Green thread, Ian had kindly shared how he had fixed this quite effectively, by splitting the job in 2 parts by doing one side at a time and using the existing lines as a guide. Tamiya fine masking tape is the perfect width to leave enough yellow to widen the strip without a full repaint so I plucked up courage and made a start.

 

I decided to remove the cab from the model which to be fair is simpler to do than I had read it to be. I pipped off the bonnet top to disconnect the wires for the lights from the circuit board. Then the 2 screws that secure the body were removed to reveal.2 screws to remove the cab. There are 2 lugs at the bonnet end of the cab that need to be pushed back and up and the cab slides off. I have purposely left the interior in the cab as  the doors and the wires are prone to falling out.

 

With the cab free I then removed the extra detail like lights, lamp irons and wipers to make the masking easier;

Next step is to paint the gaps black, I will brush paint it to save masking the whole cab etc.

im glad it’s of help

[Hal Nail]

20 hours ago, Rugd1022 said:

I wonder if moulded plastic numbers would be a better solution to renumbering both scales of the Heljan model...? 

 

 

Railtec do 3D transfers for it.

 

https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=5130

 

https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=4187

 

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Hal Nail

[37114]

I am now doing the otherside of the 08 but this photo shows a neat before and after (pre me neatening up a couple of bits of paint bleed under the tape near rivets)

 

[C126]

On 24/08/2023 at 14:50, 37114 said:

Thanks for your comments, glad you enjoyed the read. Agree re the missing photos, I will have to fire up the old computer to see if I have some saved there to update, I managed to get 50 or so back earlier this year and reloaded.

 

If you come across any of Pallet Lane and can restore them as well, I hope I am not alone in being grateful.  Thanks.

[37114]

25 minutes ago, C126 said:

 

If you come across any of Pallet Lane and can restore them as well, I hope I am not alone in being grateful.  Thanks.

Will do, I am sure I have some somewhere!

[Hal Nail]

10 hours ago, 37114 said:

I am now doing the otherside of the 08 but this photo shows a neat before and after (pre me neatening up a couple of bits of paint bleed under the tape near rivets)

 

looks good. My issue is the front. The earlier releases have the stripes in the wrong place and I think they change angle near the top, although the radiator masks the problem. The later release eg the grey one, was better. I stalled on sorting mine which has been in bits for years.

[37114]

4 hours ago, Hal Nail said:

looks good. My issue is the front. The earlier releases have the stripes in the wrong place and I think they change angle near the top, although the radiator masks the problem. The later release eg the grey one, was better. I stalled on sorting mine which has been in bits for years.

Thanks, I haven't studied the front too closely... To be honest it would be a much bigger job to change the front so will live with it. You have got me thinking that maybe next time it would be easier to start with model with the correct wasps stripes and paint the body blue.

 

[37114]

On 13/09/2023 at 13:44, C126 said:

 

If you come across any of Pallet Lane and can restore them as well, I hope I am not alone in being grateful.  Thanks.

 

Hi @C126, here are a few I found on the old PC. I would have added them to the original thread but it is archived so just a few here. My modelling has come on quite a bit in the last 20 years and there are a few bits of Pallet Lane I cringe at when I look now but it started me off on the exhibition scene in 2008 and the subsequent 3 layouts have all been better than the last. Although Peasevern Yard is an upscale of Peafore Yard, there are a few cues from Pallet Lane with the new extension having some similarities to the cement sidings on Pallet Lane. The backscene may even reappear as I had forgotten the picture looked quite good. 03382 has also appeared on all 3 of the above mentioned layouts!

 

 

 

 

[37114]

Back on the current layout, I have made the base of the platform. This will be clad in brick/card so is just the base framework for now. When finished 4 x 12t vans will be able to be unloaded in the platform.

 

 

I need to straighten out the kink on the tracks leading off the points which I only noticed after taking the photo

 

08950 is now finished, I had to reapply the overhead electric warning plate on the cab end. To my eyes it looks a distinct improvement when I compare to the original  finish

[Nick G]

08 looks great but not sure I want to tackle my eleven 08's!

[37114]

1 hour ago, Nick G said:

08 looks great but not sure I want to tackle my eleven 08's!

Yep I don't blame you Nick! To be honest I reckon the total elapsed time to do it was about 90 mins, it just took me a few evenings waiting for paint to dry between coats.

[37114]

More progress on the platform for the extension, I am happy with the size/position of the platform but may rethink the left hand end a little bit when I make a start on the building as it feels a little unnatural to have the ramp dropping down to nowhere in effect. 

 

I have been researching warehouse options for the backscene, looking at Intentio, LCUT as well as Ebay but nothing has grabbed me so leaning towards the scratchbuild route, especially as the building at Avon Street was quite distinctive with rounded gable ends

 

[brossard]

1 hour ago, 37114 said:

More progress on the platform for the extension, I am happy with the size/position of the platform but may rethink the left hand end a little bit when I make a start on the building as it feels a little unnatural to have the ramp dropping down to nowhere in effect. 

 

I have been researching warehouse options for the backscene, looking at Intentio, LCUT as well as Ebay but nothing has grabbed me so leaning towards the scratchbuild route, especially as the building at Avon Street was quite distinctive with rounded gable ends

 

 

What about Scalescenes?  There are number of industrial buildings.  Easy to blow up to 7mm.  The kits are very inexpensive, ~ 5 GBP or so.  You do need a decent printer and good card.  I use 5mm or 3.5mm foamcore for the structure.

 

 

The brick detail doesn't have any texture because it's printed.  I don't mind that.  For something in the background perhaps it doesn't matter.  Or you could do some forced perspective to give the impression of distance, like, say 3/4 scale.

 

To get 7mm from the 00 print blow up the PDF by 175%.

 

Anyway, food for thought maybe.

 

John

[37114]

2 hours ago, brossard said:

 

What about Scalescenes?  There are number of industrial buildings.  Easy to blow up to 7mm.  The kits are very inexpensive, ~ 5 GBP or so.  You do need a decent printer and good card.  I use 5mm or 3.5mm foamcore for the structure.

 

 

The brick detail doesn't have any texture because it's printed.  I don't mind that.  For something in the background perhaps it doesn't matter.  Or you could do some forced perspective to give the impression of distance, like, say 3/4 scale.

 

To get 7mm from the 00 print blow up the PDF by 175%.

 

Anyway, food for thought maybe.

 

John

It is a good shout John as that building is the sort of thing I was thinking (probably with a canopy). I have to say normally I stay away from printed building because of the texture but it is a fair provocation as I use printed images on the backscene. I could use the scalescenes design to help me to shape/size the building then use brick plastic sheet rather than the printed brick paper which maybe a workable compromise.

[brossard]

5 minutes ago, 37114 said:

It is a good shout John as that building is the sort of thing I was thinking (probably with a canopy). I have to say normally I stay away from printed building because of the texture but it is a fair provocation as I use printed images on the backscene. I could use the scalescenes design to help me to shape/size the building then use brick plastic sheet rather than the printed brick paper which maybe a workable compromise.

 

I use Scalescenes and Lcut on my layout almost exclusively.  The Lcut get Scalescenes brick overlay.  For me I like that Scalescenes and Lcut have done the basic design work, ie the building structure.  As a modeller you can the do whatever you want and replacing the paper with textured brick, or whatever, is a good alternative.  I keep telling myself I'll do that someday with my buildings but I doubt it will happen.

 

The other great thing about Scalescenes and Lcut is the choice of buildings - it is very large.

 

John

[37114]

1 minute ago, brossard said:

 

I use Scalescenes and Lcut on my layout almost exclusively.  The Lcut get Scalescenes brick overlay.  For me I like that Scalescenes and Lcut have done the basic design work, ie the building structure.  As a modeller you can the do whatever you want and replacing the paper with textured brick, or whatever, is a good alternative.  I keep telling myself I'll do that someday with my buildings but I doubt it will happen.

 

The other great thing about Scalescenes and Lcut is the choice of buildings - it is very large.

 

John

Thanks John, I do like the LCUT ranges which I have used a lot on the original part of the layout for the arches and also the scrapyard office, their range is excellent and will likely get some of the parts from them. 

[Rich Papper]

JS Models has a few warehouses in 7mm: https://www.jsmodels.co.uk/home/O-Gauge-7mm-Kits-c63279568?offset=6

Rich

 

[37114]

7 hours ago, Rich Papper said:

JS Models has a few warehouses in 7mm: https://www.jsmodels.co.uk/home/O-Gauge-7mm-Kits-c63279568?offset=6

Rich

 

Thanks Rich. I had a look at the LCUT range again last night, I think I can pull something from various bits they produce, just need to find a spare 20 mins to work out the order.

[37114]

Speedy service from Jakub at LCUT meant the parts for the warehouse arrived today. I couldn't resist laying them out in the general arrangement for the panels over lunch, the warehouse will be about 2ft long. I went for 2 doors and have a canopy to go on the front as well, I will need to modify the platform a bit but hopefully nothing too drastic 

[brossard]

The problem I have had with Lcut is that the brick mortar depth is quite shallow.  I also found bricks peeling off, because of the material I guess, which is a laminate.  Windows etc. are very nice.

 

Now, my solution was to face with Scalescenes brick paper.  I shall be very interested to see how you get on.

 

John

Edited September 28, 2023 by brossard