The new V2 ep

[60027Merlin]

1 hour ago, micklner said:

It confirms my suspicion since the first photos were shown on the new version release . The new version is too high or if I am wrong  the old version is too low ??

 

On comparing the above photos to photos of the real thing the new version (4791) is nearer the mark than the old one.

 

 

[31A]

I have just been and measured mine.

 

New V2 tender:

 

 

Old V2 tender:

 

 

From which it seems the new one is about half a millimetre higher than the old one from rail level to the top of the sides at their highest point - about 43.5mm as nearly as I can measure.  Although it may not look like it (due to camera angles etc.), the small steel rule IS at right angles to the long one!

 

The Isinglass drawing for LNER 4,200 gall tenders gives heights as:

 

Rail Level to bottom of footplate: 4ft 2 and 1/4 ins.

Top of footplate to top of sides: 6ft 6 and 5/16 ins.

Thickness of footplate: 3/8 in.

Which comes to about 10ft 9 and 1/5 ins, which by my reckoning is pretty close to 43.5mm.

 

[micklner]

It maybe the photos.

 

New Tender the ruler is not straight leaning down to the left as does the Tender. Reads ?

 

Old Tender again slight  lean to the left . Ruler looks straight. Reads 44mm.

[31A]

19 minutes ago, micklner said:

It maybe the photos.

 

New Tender the ruler is not straight leaning down to the left as does the Tender. Reads ?

 

Old Tender again slight  lean to the left . Ruler looks straight. Reads 44mm.

 

No, the rulers and the tenders were square as I said above.  Any impression otherwise is due to the angle of the camera or distortion by its lens.  The top of the new tender is 43.5mm above rail level, the old one is almost exactly 43mm.  You cannot see the 43mm mark on the ruler in the second picture as the small ruler is hard up against it.

[31A]

51 minutes ago, micklner said:

It maybe the photos.

 

New Tender the ruler is not straight leaning down to the left as does the Tender. Reads ?

 

Old Tender again slight  lean to the left . Ruler looks straight. Reads 44mm.

 

Perhaps these give a clearer picture.  The point I was hoping to make is that the new tender is accurate for height, regardless whether the old one was or not.  From these measurements it is necessary to deduct 4mm for the height of sleeper + rail (Peco Code 75).  I think possibly the reason the old tender appears to be leaning is that the tension lock coupling isn't quite horizontal - 'fish tail' distorted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[paul 27]

Thanks for all the pictures as expected the new model has the

higher tender sides even more noticeable in relation to the

cab sides and roof, i have the previous DCC model and the

difference is quite obvious compared to the new tooling

regardless of what the measurements show.

 

Edited February 6, 2022 by paul 27

[drmditch]

Please excuse a possibly naive question.

0.5mm = 1.5".

Is this within 'normal variation' of ride height and springing?

 

Edited February 6, 2022 by drmditch
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[31A]

1 hour ago, drmditch said:

Please excuse a possibly neave question.

0.5mm = 1.5".

Is this within 'normal variation' of ride height and springing?

 

 

I should think so, yes!

[robmcg]

For those who are considering a V2 but have not yet made the leap....   here is newly-arrived in NZ V2 60847   

 

 

I confess I had been concerned about the rods and motion being a little too bright. I need not have worried!

 

Photo by my brother Trevor and I have added background only, the model has not been fiddled except in tone and contrast etc.

[Eddie the dog]

I see that you have added front steps and draincocks to the model,

could I ask what the minimum radius that you can manage is please ?

Thanks.

[31A]

1 minute ago, Eddie the dog said:

I see that you have added front steps and draincocks to the model,

could I ask what the minimum radius that you can manage is please ?

Thanks.

 

The model comes with the front steps already fitted; they are correctly attached to the underside of the buffer mountings (unlike a lot of LNER models).  I have fitted the drain cocks, and my model will go round the sharpest curves on my layout which are the curved sides of Peco double slips (30 inches I believe).  I think the wheels touch them, but don't derail.  Likewise the flanged rear carrying wheels don't cause a problem on this radius.

 

[Eddie the dog]

Thank you, that’s good to know.

[prtrainman]

3 hours ago, 31A said:

 

The model comes with the front steps already fitted; they are correctly attached to the underside of the buffer mountings (unlike a lot of LNER models).  I have fitted the drain cocks, and my model will go round the sharpest curves on my layout which are the curved sides of Peco double slips (30 inches I believe).  I think the wheels touch them, but don't derail.  Likewise the flanged rear carrying wheels don't cause a problem on this radius.

 

According to Peco's website the curves on their slips are 24 inch radius, so even better!

 

[Johan DC]

I bought both 4791 and 4843. Both real smooth drivers (Hornby Radius 4 with flanged Wheels is not a problem). 

However, 4843 has shiny metal Running gear and buffers. Any tips to darken them a little? 

[Chamby]

22 hours ago, Eddie the dog said:

I see that you have added front steps and draincocks to the model,

could I ask what the minimum radius that you can manage is please ?

Thanks.

 

Some V2’s had their draincocks fitted with shorter pipes, including BR Black/early logo 60845, so the long pipes as supplied by Bachmann are incorrect for this version of their model.  (An internet search for V2 60845 will take you to a photo of the original loco).  I have modified my Bachmann model accordingly and it copes fine with R3 curves. 

[coronach]

On 13/02/2022 at 21:25, robmcg said:

For those who are considering a V2 but have not yet made the leap....   here is newly-arrived in NZ V2 60847   

 

 

I confess I had been concerned about the rods and motion being a little too bright. I need not have worried!

 

Photo by my brother Trevor and I have added background only, the model has not been fiddled except in tone and contrast etc.

I have applied some Railmatch acrylics to mine, which gives a pleasing result

[robmcg]

6 hours ago, coronach said:

I have applied some Railmatch acrylics to mine, which gives a pleasing result

 

I finally bit the bullet and have bought a Rails 60964 late crest green BR version, and having seen what Tim has done for Gilbert Barnatt and his Peterborough North I can see the early crest BR black version being very tempting.

 

The dilemma is that while weathering done well, as above, enhances the models, the factory livery is so good to begin with, the obvious answer being, buy two.

[robmcg]

Glass half full or glass half empty...?

 

I think it looks superb, straight out of the box, smooth runner. 

 

[60800]

Green Arrow too looks gorgeous. I like it more and more every time I look at it, now... just to sort those pesky rods. Thanks for the pic of yours Coronach

 

 

 

 

Has anybody fitted both sets of cab doors? I can't figure out how to make them not clash, so only have the tender ones fitted.

 

Cheers,

  60800

Edited March 31, 2022 by 60800
Images re-uploaded

[31A]

29 minutes ago, 60800 said:

Has anybody fitted both sets of cab doors? I can't figure out how to make them not clash, so only have the tender ones fitted.

 

I certainly couldn't!  I didn't think it would be possible to fit them and still have a running loco, so I didn't try too hard.

 

Here's Rails' 60964 after a change of identity, new drawbar and a bit of weathering.

 

 

[No Decorum]

On 18/03/2022 at 13:29, 60800 said:

Green Arrow too looks gorgeous. I like it more and more every time I look at it, now... just to sort those pesky rods. Thanks for the pic of yours Coronach

 

 

 

Has anybody fitted both sets of cab doors? I can't figure out how to make them not clash, so only have the tender ones fitted.

 

Cheers,

  60800

It always struck me as odd that the LNER used curved nameplates on a loco with no splashers. Green Arrow was the only one with a straight nameplate on the smokebox sides. I think it enhances the sleekness of a very sleek machine. I took Bachy at its word and didn’t even try to fit the cab doors. My favourite class.

[60800]

8 hours ago, No Decorum said:

Green Arrow was the only one with a straight nameplate on the smokebox sides. I think it enhances the sleekness of a very sleek machine. My favourite class.

 

Green Arrow has a very special place in my heart;

 

First steam loco I saw

 

First loco I saw in steam

 

First steam loco I ever rode behind

 

First mainline steam trip

 

First loco cabbed 

 

As you can probably guess, all of these were on the same day; At York and Scarborough on 26/05/2001, at the age of 5. I still have the chunk of coal I was given by the driver at Scarborough! 

 

The choice of 60800 vs 4771 when this model was announced was an easy one, though I would still like the other if funds allow.

 

Cheers,

  60800

[60800]

Not really off topic, but a little bit of context for the above. There were more photos, but these are the only two I've been able to find in recent years;

 

 

 

 

Cheers,

  60800

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by 60800
Images re-uploaded

[60800]

Ooh it's back up!

 

Had a trip to York a week ago on Wednesday and well, I caved;

 

 

I made another trip to Doncaster on Saturday to see an old friend too;

 

 

Cheers,

  60800 

Edited April 1, 2022 by 60800

[45568]

A couple of pix of my recently finished new Bachmann V2, a Rails special 60964 to give me the livery/cylinder combination I required:

 

 

Nameplates and transfers from Fox. Other than remove the rear cab window, (not without a couple of squeakybum moments), I have not attempted the smokebox mods other braver souls have done.

 I was initially unsure whether to purchase one of these, now another is on its way, and a third may follow. I am most impressed with the green livery, if only Hornby had got a similar colour on the A2/3.

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.