RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2020 8 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Right. Rattled through the thread start to finish. Up to speed. I've just read this again. Rattled? Rattled? Are you saying there's something loose? At speed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Up to speed? Still slow on this branch, has he seen the gradient round the cliffs! Martyn 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, mullie said: Up to speed? Still slow on this branch, has he seen the gradient round the cliffs? One of the reasons for deciding to model this line. Steep inclines, slow speeds, short trains. Apart from rule 1 interpretations, of course. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nickwood Posted May 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Mick Bonwick said: replacement is easy in the event of a fractured wire or clumsy visitor. Obviously in preparation for my visit 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted May 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 If it's anything like me this morning then best of luck. Fingers pinched with pliers, head banged on corner of layout and eye poked with uncoupler which I had forgotten I was holding..... Rob. 1 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, NHY 581 said: Fingers pinched with pliers, head banged on corner of layout and eye poked with uncoupler which I had forgotten I was holding..... Ouch, ouch and ouch! Never mind, it seems that you have achieved your objective and that is important. We can't win battles without a few casualties. Unless we're the A Team , that is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 As mentioned, a little while ago (hmph!), there would be a problem with the rails catching on each other when the flap is lifted, because they would be about 7mm higher than the board top once installed. The cure for this is to raise the hinges above board level, but you already know that. I simply cut some pieces of baseboard scrap leftovers (10mm ply) and inserted then twixt baseboard and hinge. This meant that a little bit of material had to be sanded from the face of the lower contact edge, easily done with a piece of sandpaper. Underlay in place, hinges repositioned, droppers soldered to rail and track stuck down with Copydex. Oh, and rails soldered to brass screw heads as well. 11 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 It's like you know what you're doing... 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: If it's anything like me this morning then best of luck. Fingers pinched with pliers, head banged on corner of layout and eye poked with uncoupler which I had forgotten I was holding..... Rob. Shouldn't drink so much Sheep Dip for breakfast then ! 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nickwood Posted May 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Stubby47 said: It's like you know what you're doing... Now don't get carried away, he taught me all I know and I still know nowt! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 End of play position today: Rails across flap cut with a razor saw in line with the baseboard joins. Power supplied to rails on the flap. Flap now electrically connected to only one side of the layout. Trains tested in both directions across the flap, but only when it's down. https://youtu.be/oSsw_Gu-38I Next task (for those who can't wait until tomorrow) will be to try and find the microswitches that will be used to automatically cut power to the flap and a section either side of it when it is raised. I know they are somewhere safe. A bit like some pigs I know of. 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mick Bonwick said: Trains tested in both directions across the flap, but only when it's down Good thinking, but when the flap is up, is the power to the track on the non-flap side cut off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mick Bonwick said: End of play position today: Rails across flap cut with a razor saw in line with the baseboard joins. Power supplied to rails on the flap. Flap now electrically connected to only one side of the layout. Trains tested in both directions across the flap, but only when it's down. https://youtu.be/oSsw_Gu-38I Next task (for those who can't wait until tomorrow) will be to try and find the microswitches that will be used to automatically cut power to the flap and a section either side of it when it is raised. I know they are somewhere safe. A bit like some pigs I know of. And I found the pigs so the omens are good for a safe deliverance....... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Stubby47 said: Good thinking, but when the flap is up, is the power to the track on the non-flap side cut off? Not yet. I can't find the microswitches. The plan is to cut off power to a section of track at least 18" long either side of the flap. I know I'll have to be careful about the capacity of any stay-alives that I use, but there won't be many of those. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted May 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 Those "capacity to stay alive" things sound like they might be useful in a pandemic situation???? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tony Teague said: Those "capacity to stay alive" things sound like they might be useful in a pandemic situation???? Just be aware that if the loco coughs and wheezes then it will need to self isolate in a siding until it’s tubes are clear and aren’t hot....... 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted May 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, KNP said: Just be aware that if the loco coughs and wheezes then it will need to self isolate in a siding until it’s tubes are clear and aren’t hot....... Yes, but it's OK to travel from Portland to Manchester whilst isolating so several laps of Mick's shed should be fine. 1 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted May 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Mick Bonwick said: The plan is to cut off power to a section of track at least 18" long either side of the flap. I know I'll have to be careful about the capacity of any stay-alives that I use, but there won't be many of those. This is a good idea, but falls down if any trains are propelled, or if any DMUs are operating with the powered car at the rear. If you only use locos at the front, you'll be ok. Otherwise a complete power off switch might be better... Should say I'm enjoying the thread, especially the scenic works. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Ramblin Rich said: This is a good idea, but falls down if any trains are propelled, It'll be the trains that fall down. 1 hour ago, Ramblin Rich said: if any DMUs are operating with the powered car at the rear. There's only 1 DEMU, and that's only 2 carriages. There are many ways to avoid disaster, but the only perfect way is not to run any trains at all. Where's the fun in that? I think that by the time trains are running on a regular basis there will be an established safe routine. If it fails I've only got myself to blame. Unless it's somebody else's fault. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 Have you considered installing a safety net? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tony Teague said: Have you considered installing a safety net? He'd probably trip over it leaving the shed. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stubby47 said: He'd probably trip over it leaving the shed. Then you need to install another one, and so on and so on! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 Have you got any physical locating device or mechanism to keep the non-hinge end of the board in its correct place? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Tony Teague said: Have you considered installing a safety net? Never crossed my mind. Can't think why. 12 minutes ago, Stubby47 said: Have you got any physical locating device or mechanism to keep the non-hinge end of the board in its correct place? Yes. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ramblin Rich said: Should say I'm enjoying the thread, especially the scenic works. That's nice to know, Rich. Here's a bit of bramble. I have some rubberised horsehair that is red-brown in colour. It came from friends who used it to pack a birthday present for me many years ago, when they found out that it could be used for scenery. The horsehair, that is, not the birthday present. For a while I was part of the team that worked on Kimble, the Leamington and Warwick Model Railway Society's O Gauge layout. There is a large grassy scenic area at the viaduct end of this layout that needed to have some scrubby growth added, so I thought I'd add some brambles. Using the red-brown horsehair and some Green Scenes Little Leaf Company material I did this: MATERIALS TO BE USED NEAT PVA ADDED RANDOMLY WITH A PAINTBRUSH LEAF MATERIAL SCATTERED ALL OVER NEAT PVA ADDED TO THE GROUND BRAMBLE PATCH PLONKED ON THE GLUE The dead grass to the left was made using Woodland Scenics Field Grass and some fine brown scatter that was hiding anonymously in a box until I rediscovered it. Edited May 25, 2020 by Mick Bonwick 9 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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