Karhedron Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) The first episode in being shown free on Youtube if you want to try before you buy. Technically this is only for people in the US but this can be bypassed by using a VPN or a proxy server such as HMA. I plan to give it a try later. https://www.cnet.com/news/watch-the-first-episode-of-star-trek-picard-free-on-youtube/ Edited February 5, 2020 by Karhedron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Karhedron said: The first episode in being shown free on Youtube if you want to try before you buy. Technically this is only for people in the US but this can be bypassed by using a VPN or a proxy server such as HMA. I plan to give it a try later. https://www.cnet.com/news/watch-the-first-episode-of-star-trek-picard-free-on-youtube/ Make it so! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 I have now watched both episodes so far and thought the first was very good but the second spoilt by some epic melodrama from Romulans. One day I hope that tele scriptwriters will stop this and just tell a good story. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Bloody Romulans! What have they ever done for us! Sorry wrong thread. C6T. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Karhedron said: ...half the stories revolved around 7-of-9 meaning most of the rest of the characters got little story development... When one of the characters has enough development for any two ordinary mortals, such things happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 ...and Jeri Ryan is incredibly hot. Just saying, C6T. (done now, honest) 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted February 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2020 Have watched both episodes and got bored by the droning on of Picards aid trying to explain something I couldn't get to grips with but having said that I will stick with it and watch it develop. I enjoyed both series of discovery and the second one just got better and better so really looking forward to the 3rd series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Classsix T said: ...and Jeri Ryan is incredibly hot. Just saying, C6T. And totally coincidentally was dating Brannon Braga at the time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperlad Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just finished episode 3. It’s all a bit rubbish, clearly a big budget series with good effects and sets but the storyline (the bit I understand) is pants. Only my opinion. PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted February 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2020 Hi everyone, Been watching Picard, and I am still to warm to it. As I understand it, the story arc is to be played out over three seasons! As for "Discovery", I was given the dvd set of season one as a present; although I enjoyed it there were a lot of references (copying?) from other episodes in other iterations of the Star Trek universe. For example, the alternate universe episodes in season one were all too like "Enterprise" for me; the twist at the end of that story did, I think, redeem it. I would suggest that this is a "fan-boy" targeted spin-off. Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2020 It is slow but I am fine with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Have watched Picard Episodes 1-3, enjoyed it (I also enjoyed Discovery, which definitely got a lot better in season 2!). Episodes 1-3 of Picard are the pilot episode really. The show doesn't really officially considered starting until Episode 4 as a result, so bear that in mind. Episodic format of tv died in the 90s really, after Babylon 5 became popular with the story arc, and DS9 then took that on board to some extent, since then Trek has been serial rather than episodic much more. You will be hard pressed to find shows that stick rigidly to the episodic format these days really, especially on the streaming services, where serialised series work better for that format. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Gough Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Jean-Luc Picard must be a railway modeller. Why else would he keep ordering N-gauge? Edited February 13, 2020 by Nick Gough 3 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 Hi folks, Spoiler alert! From episode four it seems to get a little silly as Picard gains his own personal Elf bodyguard, complete with sword. Okay, so I know that the character of Elnor is meant to be Romulan but it has now gone a bit 'Lord of the Rings' on us. With hints of demons and prophecies I wonder what we'll get next - a cosmic Balrog? Will I keep watching ….. yes. Regards, Alex. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxUnpopuli Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Generally, when writing fiction, a fair rule is to not write overpowered characters. Recent Star Trek reboots suffer because of this seeming necessity to 'have a bigger bear'. I haven't yet watched 'The Orville' but I know I'll enjoy it because (I am led to believe) it does not do this. in Discovery, the ship itself is just way too bonkers for Star Trek, as is the engineer behind it. Plus, if you didn't know, the ship and all the characters were plagiarised/stolen from an indie computer game designer (look it up) and CBS/Paramount are doing their damnedest to bury the reporting of the court case. For this reason, I stopped watching Discovery. In Picard, it began ticking along OK - the initial core character being who she was... that was just about acceptable. However, since then, the home-help's 'vocational history', the Romulan Section 31, and killer nuns (!)... yeah. It just smacks of bad writing. That said, if you can see past that and suspend your disbelief in the details (ST5, anyone?) it's well produced and directed, and holds the attention. It's shaping up to be a cross between Voyager, The Hobbit and Firefly... the best bit is simply regarding the other core character... I'm genuinely intrigued as to what's going to happen and how it will all pan out. If you genuinely want to watch the next episode, rather than watch out of some sense of obligation, it's probably AOK. Edited February 15, 2020 by FoxUnpopuli 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30801 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, FoxUnpopuli said: Generally, when writing fiction, a fair rule is to not write overpowered characters. Recent Star Trek reboots suffer because of this seeming necessity to 'have a bigger bear'. I haven't yet watched 'The Orville' but I know I'll enjoy it because (I am led to believe) it does not do this. Definitely watch The Orville. It's more than the Star Trek spoof it first appears to be. More like Trek with normal people instead of insufferable try-hards. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I'm enjoying Picard. The first 3 episodes clearly have been setting the scene for what is to come. I also enjoyed Discovery. Can never understand those that knock every iteration of the Trek universe, comparing everything to the original series, which was pretty sure by current standards. Though I still love it. I've enjoyed everything Trek, though Next Gen is my overall favourite. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 Since I only have FTA and Prime I do miss quite a few series. What side was ST Enterprise on? I think Voyager was BBC2 ST and STTNG definitely BBC2 As to other SF series. Seen some on C4 but cannot remember what it was. Firefly DVD Space Above and Beyond ITV Farscape BBC then TPB later DVD Stargate TPB. Man in High Castle Prime Mr Robot Prime I had a 3 month trial of Netflix from PSN managed to knock out another series by Charlie Brooker As to Picard thankyou Jeremy for the final push to Prime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchinuk Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 04/02/2020 at 14:23, brossard said: I'm watching, overall I think it good. I am taken aback by the extreme language though. I never feel that sort of thing is appropriate for TV, and I'm no stranger to it. Seems to me that there are people who won't watch because they are offended by the swearing. John The 'streaming' services are not defined as broadcasters and obviously the nature of the service means there is no watershed anyway, hence the language, though to be fair if I was being shot it it's possibly more realistic. jh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I don't think this kind of language adds anything to a drama. Realistic? Who knows, it's the 24th century, anything could happen between now and then. John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I've now watched three episodes and really not too impressed (especially by the 5 min ad from CBC for one of their shows in the middle of episode 3). There is a chunk of PC that irritates me (check the ratio of 'powerful' women to men) although not too bad. The 'elf' character is so wrong and the story line is basically weak. Will watch episode 4 based on comments here but if it doesn't improve the show will be relegated to the PVR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Quote Q is a strange one The really strange thing comes from when you see the character "Discord" in "My Little Pony" (I have three young foster-daughters so its pretty much on continuously somewhere in the house!). Voiced by the same actor who plays Q in very much the same style... the creators of MLP have said that Discord is basically Q, and assumed to be the same character appearing -with the same mannerisms and motivations- in the cartoon... Quote Space Above and Beyond ITV Now there's an underrated series... I remember when I was younger being allowed to watch it on telly when it was first on in the 90's, and being quite interested in it. Then I picked it up on DVD last year and binge-watched it, and it appealed a whole lot more. Considering the age of it, the effects hold up pretty well, but what struck me was how it looks almost like a proto-version of the remade Battlestar Galactica, everything grounded in reality (solid-shot weapons instead of phasers, great hulking bricks-in-space starships instead of the Enterprise). The story is good, and considering it only got one series, there's some proper character development too. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, brossard said: I don't think this kind of language adds anything to a drama. Realistic? Who knows, it's the 24th century, anything could happen between now and then. John Belgium! (And if that doesn't offend then how about a game of cricket?!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, Ben B said: The really strange thing comes from when you see the character "Discord" in "My Little Pony" (I have three young foster-daughters so its pretty much on continuously somewhere in the house!). Voiced by the same actor who plays Q in very much the same style... the creators of MLP have said that Discord is basically Q, and assumed to be the same character appearing -with the same mannerisms and motivations- in the cartoon... Now there's an underrated series... I remember when I was younger being allowed to watch it on telly when it was first on in the 90's, and being quite interested in it. Then I picked it up on DVD last year and binge-watched it, and it appealed a whole lot more. Considering the age of it, the effects hold up pretty well, but what struck me was how it looks almost like a proto-version of the remade Battlestar Galactica, everything grounded in reality (solid-shot weapons instead of phasers, great hulking bricks-in-space starships instead of the Enterprise). The story is good, and considering it only got one series, there's some proper character development too. Space Above and Beyond - great show - and a great reworking of the elements of the US Pacific Campaign of WW2. Killed off, I believe, by the schedulers continually moving it around. I read somewhere that all the pre-shooting work had been done for season 2 before it was dropped. A real pity. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxUnpopuli Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, MJI said: Stargate TPB. Stargate SG-1 one of the best sci-fi series of all - actual a very coherent basis in science behind it. And they had fun too. The 'Groundhog Day' episode is hilarious. "IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING?!" See if you can find 'Almost Human'. An underrated future buddy-buddy cop series by J.H.Wyman with Karl Urban. And cancelled after one series, like Firefly, just when it was getting good. Edited February 15, 2020 by FoxUnpopuli Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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