MGR Hooper! Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) RevolutioN Trains announce JNA/MMA EALNOS in N gauge Quote In response to customer demand, Revolution Trains has decided to downsize its well-received MMA/JNA “Ealnos” hoppers from OO to N. Revolution HOAs – about to get blown up! Similarly, the N Ealnos model is likely to be offered in DB Red, Ermewa/Tarmac grey, VTG Blue, GBRf blue and VTG/Mendip Rail silver, however since the 00 model was produced more versions have appeared, including dark red Touax and mid-blue VTG and Cappagh branded versions; and it may be these are offered instead of some of the previous versions. Touax JNA at Westbury. Photo courtesy Jo Alder. VTG JNA at Westbury in new mid-blue livery. Some wagons in this colour carry large “Cappagh” branding. Photo courtesy Jo Alder. Once CAD work is completed on both these models and we are ready to begin tooling we will be opening the order books. As ever there will be a “best value” earlybird price to encourage early orders and help us progress these projects speedily. Edited May 27, 2020 by MGR Hooper! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Something that may be of interest to others, I've knocked together a small table giving some sample formations of Mendip workings that mix boxes and hoppers. By no means is this conclusive, but it gives a taste of how you can mix boxes and hoppers. It also shows that we really need some other wagon types to run mixed with the Revolution HOA and JNAs I've included the portion sizes, as it shows that you don't need a massive 40 wagon train to be prototypical, once the train gets to London it splits in to 2 or 3 bits, the smallest portion being 10 wagons. Equally, the Fareham, Botley and Woking are all smaller trains. Jo 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted May 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Hi Jo, Thanks for that - very useful. I take your point about the variety of wagons used by Mendip Rail. Off the top of my head trying to list them: Hoppers: O&K ex-Yeoman JYA Procor ex-ARC JHA VTG HOA Boxes O&K ex-CAIB JNA VTG JNA “Ealnos” Are there others? I guess they no longer use the PGAs? Do they still use the JUA/JTA ex tipplers? cheers Ben A. Edited May 27, 2020 by Ben A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted May 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2020 All the JUAs are gone aren’t they? Have Dapol confirmed any of the 59, O&K boxes and/or hoppers in N? cheers M 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Hi @Ben A and @red death The PGAs are long gone, I believe they were replaced on London area sand workings around 2008 by some VTG owned IIAs. They don't normally get down to the quarries. JTA/JUA tipplers replaced early 2000s by the NACCO/ Caib 39xx boxes I believe. Currently running there are: Hoppers: O&K Yeoman JHA (one design, inners and outers, still pretty much as built). I know Dapol intended to, but who knows now! Merehead only ARC Hanson JHAs (3 designs, prototype 17901 (outer), main batch Powell Duffryn built (inner and outers), Procor add on batch (inners only) Whatley only (also load at Avonmouth, Stud Farm and Machen) NACCO IIA hoppers (mid grey livery, just over 10 years old) Both quarries HOA (per your model) Both quarries HOA (looks very similar to an unpainted NACCO IIA, new in 2019, VTG branding). I think the new Touax hoppers are the same design. Whatley only (thus far) Boxes: O&K Yeoman JYA (one design, inners and outers, still pretty much as built. Only variation is bolt on branding boards). Both quarries NACCO / Caib (later VTG) Marcroft built 39xx JNAs (one body design, inners and outers, variations in brake equipment between NACCO and VTG wagons) Both quarries Ealnos VTG / Touax JNA (per your model, brake equipment differences between VTG and Touax) Both quarries VTG ex Railtrack 34xx JNA (one common body, variations in doors and brakes/ bogies) Both quarries, mostly Merehead though. Possibly displaced by Touax type. VTG owned 31xx / 32xx KEAs. (one general body design, variation in brakes, bogies and wagon ends. Mix of inner, outer and singles. Most ex TML channel tunnel construction, few ex Yeoman) Whatley (and Tytherington) predominantly, very occasional Merehead. Wow, that was longer than I expected! Jo Edited May 27, 2020 by Steadfast 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted May 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2020 The last lot of JUAs I saw running were the VTG grey ones (with the odd ex Yeoman one in the rake) running sand in London eg https://flic.kr/s/aHsjD7AnED - that was from 2011 but they lasted longer than that. Cheers M 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) I believe the VTG grey tipplers lasted to at least 2015 in the London area Mike, but that's a Brett flow rather than Mendip. MBAs then Ealnos JNAs appear to have taken over on the Brett traffic. The JTA and JUAs on Mendip traffic definitely finished before I started taking photos! At a quick glance, 2005 is the latest photo I can find of a tippler in Mendip service, which may well coincide with the green JNAs coming down for a bit, that or MBAs which came and went from Mendip work many times. Jo Edited May 27, 2020 by Steadfast 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jbqfc Posted May 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2020 the last time i saw a JUA was at Tonbridge at the end of October 2016 on a Brett sand train John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Steadfast said: Hi @Ben A and @red death The PGAs are long gone, I believe they were replaced on London area sand workings around 2008 by some VTG owned IIAs. They don't normally get down to the quarries. Jo I don't know whether it'd be classed as a London area sand working, but I have a picture from 2014 of 66148 working 6B35 Acton to Moreton-on-Lugg. The train was all VTG branded PGA's. Andy. Edited May 27, 2020 by SWT442 Add picture 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs4 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Realistic and modelable train here. 59 plus 10 x TOUAX JNA taken lunchtime today Hitchin - Acton empties 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedlee Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 World of Railways has confirmed that the CADs for these wagons have been approved. So dust off your credit cards as they could soon get some use. (I wonder if they will beat the 128s) cheers, Ged. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted October 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2020 Well spotted Ged - there is an update on the Revolution website with some images too. http://www.revolutiontrains.com/news/ cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu from EGDL Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Hi Gang, Great news that the Touax wagons have made the cut despite the considerable differences. I had better start saving again!! Later, Stu from EGDL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 There's a new traffic using the VTG blue boxes, empties ran yesterday and the first loaded train ran today. The train loads at Tytherington and takes stone to Cricklewood in London. The photo is linked to my Flickr which has a caption on it detailing a bit more, a bit tricky to copy it all across, posting this on my phone. It's 66044 on 6Z31 Westbury - Tytherington. Jo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedlee Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Hi Folks Order pages are now OPEN! Early bird until the end of March. cheers, Ged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Great news that these are available to order. More Tytherington action - we're now regularly running a set of the blue ones for Mendip Rail / Hanson between there and Calvert with stone for HS2. Seen here at Westbury last night in the rain. DCR generally run solid sets of the blue ones, but the first time the new wagons came to Westbury there were a few silver ones mixed in too. Late 2019. In 2020 it was a solid set of the blue ones, which have also been seen behind the 56s. The Avonmouth flow (with stone for Hinkley Point) is a set of 21 of the Mendip livery boxes. 2019 59202 on the last week of DB having the Mendip contract. 2020, Freightliner have taken over. All the pics are linked to Flickr which has more detail on the captions. Jo 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc2016 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Revolution Trains have received EP1 Samples for the MMA/JNA Ealnos Wagons. Images from the Revolution Trains Website (https://www.revolutiontrains.com/mmmma-tasty/) Quote Revolution Trains has received first engineering samples of our forthcoming MMA/JNA ‘Ealnos’ box wagons in N. MMA/JNA – 9 rib versions JNA 11 rib versions 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 "Nothing for me" he said after this week's update. "Phew" said the bank balance. But it did give me the kick up the bum to remember to order my JNAs! As an aside, the DB MMAs have started running in the south west. There's a set of them on the Tytherington - Calvert flow alongside the two VTG blue sets. They run to Tytherington from London direct, as well as via layovers at Westbury. I believe this is the first time the MMAs have come over this way. Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu from EGDL Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Hi Gang; Oops...just ordered another 12 13 JNAs before tonight's earlybird deadline. That's me proper skint for another month!!! Later; Stu from EGVN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepallant Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just spotted Revolutions email as well. Got my order in. Been watching a channel on Youtube called Ashville. He has an building and aggregate company near Heathrow and gets several trains a week loaded with aggregates from the midlands. Here's last weeks edition with some shots of GBRf 66742 and a lot of JNAs arriving. Look like Revolutions VTG Silver and the GBRf dark Blue with and without the leasing stickers. This is the delivery last Wednesday, https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H03156/2021-03-24/detailed#allox_id=0 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepallant Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Here's some more Ashville video of them unloading the JNAs. Remarkable that they can just scoop out the aggregates and leave the wagons relatively undamaged and practically empty. https://youtu.be/BK6gPXc7er4?t=2247 Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harvey Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Decorated samples now showing online. https://www.revolutiontrains.com/decorated-samples-are-mma-rvelous/ Decorated samples are MMA-rvelous... - Revolution Trains 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted June 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2021 From a personal point of view, I don't like the representation of the stone. It's too uniform. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) 31st May, we had at least 45 of the VTG dark blue boxes at Westbury. They are currently employed on the Tytherington - Calvert trains, conveying aggregate for HS2 construction. The pictures show one of the two trains we had over the bank holiday weekend, plus a cripple stood aside that had been knocked out of the set. To give some idea how these sets get used by DB, in the time I've been dealing with them the VTG blue sets have worked Burngullow - Bow, Bristol East Depot - Banbury, and Tytherington - Calvert (all Westbury based) plus a period in the Peak District, so plenty of excuses for people modelling the last couple of years to stock up on blue ones! Edit just to clarify, that's one set has done all that, it wasn't all at the same time! Certain wagons have distinctive graffiti and are easy to trace Jo Edited June 19, 2021 by Steadfast 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted June 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, Kris said: From a personal point of view, I don't like the representation of the stone. It's too uniform. Hi Kris, Yes, it looks awful. Have you read the linked article? cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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