Hacksworth_Sidings Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) On 05/10/2023 at 13:47, 33C said: Yes, it's on the to-do list, at about no.5...... Been thinking about doing a P2 model for a while now, considering what to do in terms of the chassis though, since a rear bogie needs to be accommodated for too, would it be a good idea to have the two blind drivers directly next to each other in the middle with the flanged ones either end to allow for better cornering, and screwing an unmodified bogie into the wooden extension? As opposed to fitting a blind driver onto the end, keeping the turning radius the same and allowing the rear to swing out on corners. Edit: Thinking about that after posting, that would mean more work to do in terms of modifying the pickups, as if you were to move the flanged driver back onto the extension then you’d have to extend the pickup fitted to the insulated pickup plate to make contact with the insulated wheel, and you’d lose conductivity on the grounded wheel by moving the flanged axle onto a non conductive surface, there’s another thing to consider… Edited October 28, 2023 by Hacksworth_Sidings 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 Don't overthink it. Look at my 8F and 47XX. Pick ups are standard, rods self explanatory from the pictures. Wheels are unmoved. The extra axle is mounted in a block of hardwood, glued in place and drilled through on the centre line. A trailing bogie I would fashion from a piece of tin, (biscuit tin lid?), bent into an elongated S with a tube glued to the end through which a standard Hornby axle can be placed, drilled the other end and screwed into the wood. False frames can be glued under the cab or on an 'M' frame mounted on the pony. Doddle. Remember, K.I.S.S. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I’ve… Never heard the expression K.I.S.S. before, what does it stand for? Something along the lines of “Keep It Stupidly Simple?”. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195993267715?hash=item2da21bee03:g:5JIAAOSwETtlDKmW&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4GktTZcSzdHE2e936XKjvOTiFTOsqBKN8e%2BJxtRUMbvzWyrGI9sj1ScG4TzEuniCm%2Bfz5uyiqMrdqApF8eyckCXGP9TO8nr5%2BtoItbhYAF%2B%2BVozWB4O5z199kXsg%2BFAefFHE9%2FB%2FvJGLBvA%2FMtMNm2VY6PDtrhTGndWTQ0bBwpJAAsHc9ZsGYt8GyrUK1wvtP%2Fg2PzMHNwQ2h%2Bb8oE3uUIi61kCzFPW9PEC2QcWkujE2zm%2F4d6jCNey2IeRf4v77QTjC1qoRCF8w2AmyzYfN7mW3zK8LUAMmHrXXpfDNLfzt|tkp%3ABk9SR87PzKnxYg Found this on the 'bay, looks like a 5MT body simply fitted to a Princess chassis, a good choice for motorising the tender drive 5MT, something I've been considering doing myself... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Bringing these over from the “eBay madness” thread if anyone’s interested in these conversions. @33C do send more if you can find any :) Might be trying out the King Arthur conversion for myself at some point too… Edited November 16, 2023 by Hacksworth_Sidings 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebbles Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said: Bringing these over from the “eBay madness” thread if anyone’s interested in these conversions. @33C do send more if you can find any :) Might be trying out the King Arthur conversion for myself at some point too… This is what modelling is all about! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Right, stand by... Edited November 16, 2023 by 33C added photo. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) More! Edited November 16, 2023 by 33C added photo. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) POW! Edited November 16, 2023 by 33C added photo. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Something a bit different with a princess chassis... Edited November 16, 2023 by 33C added photo. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 And another... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, 33C said: Something a bit different with a princess chassis... I do have a spare Hiawatha body… (Early type, acetate with the fixed cowcatcher) cost me around £10 and arrived with the cowcatcher falling apart, so it’s not in the best shape, used it’s wheels for one of my Prairie tanks, and I don’t want to ruin my complete Hiawatha (later type, polystyrene body, cowcatcher on the front bogie), could be a fun project, I do need more diverse wheel configs in my collection too, mostly 4-6-2s as of the current moment… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TinTracks Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2023 5 hours ago, 33C said: Something a bit different with a princess chassis.. Ahhh the memories. The artistry and skill of the likes of Sydney M Moir, Midlander and Costigan still stands appreciated today in these pages. Luverly stuff. Thanks, Rich 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2023 12 hours ago, 33C said: More! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, papagolfjuliet said: You ended up getting that conversion from eBay? Good to know it’s gone to a good owner! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) That's the one. Am now starting to wonder if it actually is the one made by NB Collin (although if it is then the cab glazing has fallen out). Edited November 17, 2023 by papagolfjuliet 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 13 hours ago, 33C said: POW! I converted a second hand Princess to a Class 5 or Jubilee based on a Railway Modeller article, before re-purposing the chassis for a Sligo Leitrim and Northern Counties 0-6-4T with a scratchbuilt tin plate body. As far as I recall I picked up the Princess basic model unlined black without outside valve gear for abut £1.5 at a model railway club sale, I also picked up a Triang-Hornby Jinty chassis which I unsuccessfully re-purposed as a chassis block for a 4-4-0. Modifications to the chassis included replacing the Princes driving wheels with wheels from a Triang-Hornby 0-6-0 crudely filed to a narrower profile. Curiously the 0-6-4T turned out to be a smooth and reliable runner, my first successful attempt at wheel quartering. Although my early attempts at scratchbuilding locos on rtr chassis were not the most successful they laid the groundwork for my first successful attempts at kit and scratchbuilding several years later. Almost feel tempted to repeat a Black 5 or Jubilee conversion for a 60s retro layout as a change from todays hi-fidelity rtr models 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said: I do have a spare Hiawatha body… (Early type, acetate with the fixed cowcatcher) cost me around £10 and arrived with the cowcatcher falling apart, so it’s not in the best shape, used it’s wheels for one of my Prairie tanks, and I don’t want to ruin my complete Hiawatha (later type, polystyrene body, cowcatcher on the front bogie), could be a fun project, I do need more diverse wheel configs in my collection too, mostly 4-6-2s as of the current moment… Come to think of it… One of the guys at my local club has a Hiawatha, he doesn’t model continental stuff and scrapped it for spares but I’m pretty sure he still has the body… 4-8-4 Hiawatha anyone? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said: Come to think of it… One of the guys at my local club has a Hiawatha, he doesn’t model continental stuff and scrapped it for spares but I’m pretty sure he still has the body… 4-8-4 Hiawatha anyone? I wonder if it would be possible to use the Tri-ang 4-6-2 chassis to motorise the old Kitmaster New York Central Hudson? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, papagolfjuliet said: I wonder if it would be possible to use the Tri-ang 4-6-2 chassis to motorise the old Kitmaster New York Central Hudson? I was thinking of that, if you can find one for a decent price then I’d go for it, static display piece? Free rolling loco to be pushed by another powered item? I think not! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said: I was thinking of that, if you can find one for a decent price then I’d go for it, static display piece? Free rolling loco to be pushed by another powered item? I think not! Unbuilt ones seem to be going for around £25 on ebay; double that for a well built one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Princess finally arrived, now I need to pick what I want Ito convert her to… 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Family’s gone swimming to celebrate grandma’s birthday, which I was unable to participate in due to health reasons (nothing serious but I shan’t elaborate), so whilst they were out I decided to take a trip to the local antique store, I think you all know how that ended… Probably overpaid, £30 for this one when the £20 one that arrived this morning was in better condition (paint wise at least), but that’s another Princess to convert! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 18, 2023 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) On 17/11/2023 at 11:13, Hacksworth_Sidings said: I was thinking of that, if you can find one for a decent price then I’d go for it, static display piece? Free rolling loco to be pushed by another powered item? I think not! What about the Revell NYC Hudson, or shorten the Big Boy? Or, their German loco kits could be Anglicised? How about a "Cab forward" or a Camel-back! Edited November 18, 2023 by 33C Added detail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 18, 2023 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said: Family’s gone swimming to celebrate grandma’s birthday, which I was unable to participate in due to health reasons (nothing serious but I shan’t elaborate), so whilst they were out I decided to take a trip to the local antique store, I think you all know how that ended… Probably overpaid, £30 for this one when the £20 one that arrived this morning was in better condition (paint wise at least), but that’s another Princess to convert! Next time, have a haggle.! Don't ask, don't get. Start at half price and ask, "does it work?" See where it goes.... Otherwise you won't be let out on your own again! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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