Andrew P Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 FP2 = https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/54910937 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Andretti tipped to take majority stake in Sauber’s F1 team. https://www.racefans.net/2021/10/08/andretti-tipped-to-take-majority-stake-in-saubers-f1-team/?fbclid=IwAR1tpeVMViC5hCcFxn6rJc5puv-o0sNdOyRl9G7HYnooQftWLn14w1HC7Gg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Variable conditions for qualifying again, which does tend to sort out the men from the boys. Which perhaps underlines the potential of young master Schumacher. What is it with Danny Ricc - struggling again to find form and consistency? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 The McLarens are not on it this weekend as they were for the last couple of races. Merc have the best result they could have hoped for, in first and eleventh places. How long Bottas will fend off Max for is open to some conjecture, measured in corners or laps according to your belief in the Finn. The general astonishment in FP1 at the sudden improvement in grip levels over 2020 seems to have been addressed better in some teams than others. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: The McLarens are not on it this weekend as they were for the last couple of races. Merc have the best result they could have hoped for, in first and eleventh places. How long Bottas will fend off Max for is open to some conjecture, measured in corners or laps according to your belief in the Finn. The general astonishment in FP1 at the sudden improvement in grip levels over 2020 seems to have been addressed better in some teams than others. If Max doesn't get VB before the first corner, then there could be a coming together I think. Edited October 9, 2021 by Andrew P 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted October 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Andrew P said: If Max doesn't get VB before the first corner, then there could be a coming together I think. And I'd guess that if that does happen, VB will know how to ensure he's not the only one taken out from watching his team-mate..... Then LH just needs to carve through the others ahead of him. John 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: And I'd guess that if that does happen, VB will know how to ensure he's not the only one taken out from watching his team-mate..... Team orders, eh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Oldddudders said: How long Bottas will fend off Max for is open to some conjecture, measured in corners or laps according to your belief in the Finn. 11 hours ago, Andrew P said: If Max doesn't get VB before the first corner, then there could be a coming together I think. Max will be long gone by the first corner and if he isn't Vaterri will let him past like last time out... That's my prediction! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I have to say that I tend to agree with VB & Max on this, at least as far as the record books are concerned if not the actual grid position: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/09/valtteri-bottas-turkish-f1-gp-pole-lewis-hamilton-max-verstappen Hamilton has a record 101 poles already under his belt and clocking up numbers clearly does not keep the world champion awake at night... He said he wanted to ensure he started as high up the field as possible and duly delivered with a lap that was the class of the field and a track record. But not pole number 102. All three drivers agreed that F1 should address the clear incongruity that, when penalties are applied, the sport does not honour the quickest driver as having taken pole. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2021 If pole position attracted the extra point that has been discussed over the years, then the present failure to recognise the fastest legal lap would be a bit more debatable. As it is, it's solely about glory (and starting position, of course) - and that pays nobody's bills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) There’s a point for fastest lap in the race so why extra rewards in qualifying over grid position too? MB used it tactically this weekend to hopefully limit points damage and without penalties it gives you clean air and track position. My question would be how many more incentives do they need? Edited October 10, 2021 by PaulRhB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hobby said: Max will be long gone by the first corner and if he isn't Vaterri will let him past like last time out... That's my prediction! Got that wrong, well done Valterri! Edited October 10, 2021 by Hobby 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Well that disproves the theory that a wet track equals an exciting race.......... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 9 hours ago, ejstubbs said: I have to say that I tend to agree with VB & Max on this, at least as far as the record books are concerned if not the actual grid position: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/09/valtteri-bottas-turkish-f1-gp-pole-lewis-hamilton-max-verstappen Hamilton has a record 101 poles already under his belt and clocking up numbers clearly does not keep the world champion awake at night... He said he wanted to ensure he started as high up the field as possible and duly delivered with a lap that was the class of the field and a track record. But not pole number 102. All three drivers agreed that F1 should address the clear incongruity that, when penalties are applied, the sport does not honour the quickest driver as having taken pole. On the other hand, Hamilton effectively gained an "unfair" advantage by using a newer ICU than the other drivers (hence the 10 place penalty), so no, I don't think it should count as LH pole 102. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I didn't know Max and Lewis had taken part in this year's Goodwood Revival... 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2021 I looked up Graham Hill's participation in a T70 in CanAm, and it looks like the car is painted for Riverside 1966, in which he finished third. Winner was Surtees, and 5 of the top 7 finishers were T70s. 6th was a McLaren Elva, which I think would have been built by Peter Agg at Trojan, Croydon. British designs - albeit mainly with US engines - really did dominate in the early days of CanAm, and Surtees was the first Champion. Only the Texans in their Chaparrals got an occasional look-in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) Horner having another moan. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58870237 Edited October 11, 2021 by didcot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, didcot said: Horner having another moan. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58870237 Certainly Bottas never looked threatened by Max yesterday, albeit he was carrying less wing than Lewis. Mid-season, it was all looking good for RB, but now the tables are more even, at least. With the two heroes flip-flopping, surely this is the season everyone hoped for, although not all of you thought it was much of a race, evidently. I thought it was absorbing up and down the field, lots of recovery drives etc. Sainz's progress from the back row was well-monitored on screen during periods when the leaders were steady-state. And while the rain didn't tumble down like Sochi, it remained an unknown until the flag. Had it come down harder, all those on bald Inters might have had a tough time. I thought Gasly was hard done-by, but I haven't seen all the angles. 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattA Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 21 hours ago, Gareth Collier said: Well that disproves the theory that a wet track equals an exciting race.......... As if the Begian GP hadn't already disproved that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, didcot said: Horner having another moan. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58870237 I don't recall TW having a moan at the beginning of the season, when all of a sudden the Red Bulls appeared to have more power. As has been said before, if there is any moaning to be done CH is first in the queue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Oldddudders said: Certainly Bottas never looked threatened by Max yesterday, albeit he was carrying less wing than Lewis. Mid-season, it was all looking good for RB, but now the tables are more even, at least. With the two heroes flip-flopping, surely this is the season everyone hoped for, although not all of you thought it was much of a race, evidently. I thought it was absorbing up and down the field, lots of recovery drives etc. Sainz's progress from the back row was well-monitored on screen during periods when the leaders were steady-state. And while the rain didn't tumble down like Sochi, it remained an unknown until the flag. Had it come down harder, all those on bald Inters might have had a tough time. I thought Gasly was hard done-by, but I haven't seen all the angles. The penalty for Gasly, did seem harsh, especially as the stewards, usually give a little more leeway regarding contact on the first lap. Possibly, after the Hamilton/Verstappen incident in Italy, the stewards are tending towards stricter enforcement regarding any collisions, on the grounds of safety. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Certainly Bottas never looked threatened by Max yesterday, albeit he was carrying less wing than Lewis. Mid-season, it was all looking good for RB, but now the tables are more even, at least. With the two heroes flip-flopping, surely this is the season everyone hoped for, although not all of you thought it was much of a race, evidently. I thought it was absorbing up and down the field, lots of recovery drives etc. Sainz's progress from the back row was well-monitored on screen during periods when the leaders were steady-state. And while the rain didn't tumble down like Sochi, it remained an unknown until the flag. Had it come down harder, all those on bald Inters might have had a tough time. I thought Gasly was hard done-by, but I haven't seen all the angles. While a close race for the WDC is a good thing, it is vital that LH beats MV, to minimise the airtime that Horner gets. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 That won't stop him! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 49 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said: While a close race for the WDC is a good thing, it is vital that LH beats MV, to minimise the airtime that Horner gets. You don't like him ? I have maximum respect - he got himself a spice girl . Is it just me or does max V look like Mr Bean ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Mr Horner, in his corner, blethering and chuntering all day. I really do wish he would go away... 1 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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