Nick Holliday Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, GMKAT7 said: Hello Mol, An interesting range of open wagons in the left hand background. BR standard 16T minerals, both rivetted and welded types and grey painted 7 plank opens. Plus a 7 plank open with coke rails. Edit: Both the coke wagon and another 7 plank open appear to be unpainted timber but with darker (painted?) ironwork. Unless the ironwork is just rusty? Also interesting is the unloading of the wagons directly into coal sacks, none of the cliched 'coal bins' to be seen. Cheers, Nigel. Wallington had a vast range of coal bins, all of them beyond the furthest siding. Part of them can be seen in the left corner. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) Did anyone else go to the Great Railway Exposition at Liverpool Road station in 1980? I've still got the souvenir brochure that my dad bought during our visit. Pictures by Martyn Hilbert & Eric Harrison Edited December 20, 2023 by montyburns56 added picture 22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 'Coal: The Rocket Fuel'. Love it. No trains run there now, in fact very little seems to work at MOSI these days. I'm sure the catering is better though 😢 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Son and I went there for a brief look at Rocket when she was there a few years back, on a somewhat meandering route to watch Man City play. We both concluded that the museum looked worth a proper return visit, and on the basis of the people we got chatting to in a chip shop, at a tram stop etc, he decided that Manchester is a good place. So, positive all round from the perspective of southerners! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted December 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Son and I went there for a brief look at Rocket when she was there a few years back, on a somewhat meandering route to watch Man City play. We both concluded that the museum looked worth a proper return visit, and on the basis of the people we got chatting to in a chip shop, at a tram stop etc, he decided that Manchester is a good place. So, positive all round from the perspective of southerners! Nearly 20 years since I last went there, it certainly was a very good use of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Bending the rules again, sorry. Not Flickr but how about this: An ancient GWR pannier tank (former 657) in industrial use, hauling a BR coke hopper in factory-fresh grey livery (rather than the usual overall rust): https://bristolharbourrailway.co.uk/industrial-railways-of-bristol/imperial-smelting-co/#jp-carousel-3252 Imperial Smelting Corporation, Avonmouth, thanks to the Bristol Harbour Railway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Quote A super livery on a coal wagon: http://gmlives.org.uk/imu/request.php?request=Multimedia&method=fetch&key=89928&filter=height:bf:758;width:bf:1536;kind:ne:thumbnail Airfix made a model of this wagon! https://www.hattons.co.uk/1549542/airfix_gmr_great_model_railways_54391_po19_7_plank_open_wagon_stalybridge_corporation_gas_no_15_in_brown_pre_owned_missi/stockdetail 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted December 20, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 Hanley 1975 by David Blower From the caption " The Potteries Loop was a 7 mile 25 chains alternative route between Etruria Junction and Kidsgrove Liverpool Road on the North Staffordshire Railway's main line to Macclesfield" 47 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted December 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2023 I lived in nearby Newcastle-under-Lyme from 1967 to 1978 and was brought on occasional bus trips to Hanley for shopping with my Mum and Grandma. Sitting on the top deck you could see the remains of the loop line as the bus passed over the bridges. I also vaguely remember steam locos working the Pool Dam branch in Newcastle although I must have been 4 or 5 at the time. Cheers Darius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Had to find an old map to properly trace the route, it was quite a winding railway and there were so many mineral lines connected to it as well. Excellent image find to draw our attention to the route - safe to say, it's a route that is not on any reopening plans I don't think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Thats station with 'on the corner of a small layout' curves. I like it https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15.7&lat=53.02588&lon=-2.18315&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potteries_Loop_Line Edited December 21, 2023 by Talltim 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 A Mk1 coach, a Freightliner(ish)* container flat, and a rake of 16t minerals, all in the same train: from Ernie on Flickr. *Is this actually a former Speedfreight container in blue stripe livery? Mol 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said: A Mk1 coach, a Freightliner(ish)* container flat, and a rake of 16t minerals, all in the same train: from Ernie on Flickr. *Is this actually a former Speedfreight container in blue stripe livery? Mol Looking at the length of the box, I'd say you're correct. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 8 hours ago, woodenhead said: Had to find an old map to properly trace the route, it was quite a winding railway and there were so many mineral lines connected to it as well. Excellent image find to draw our attention to the route - safe to say, it's a route that is not on any reopening plans I don't think. I don't think that it would be much use as a heavy rail route these days, but I reckon that the southern section from Tunstall to Etruria could be turned into a pretty useful tram route. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DavidLong Posted December 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2023 https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/new-map-reveals-stoke-trents-7693627 David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted December 22, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2023 Manchester Central 1960s by MMU Visual Resources Sadly this shot from 1975 is how I remember the station.... 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted December 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: Manchester Central 1960s by MMU Visual Resources Sadly this shot from 1975 is how I remember the station.... Great shots! I remember it without trains and before it became GMex. The blue DMUs make it seem quite ‘modern’! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post 97406 Posted December 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2023 Longsight. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted December 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2023 Longsight Part 2. 2 units which would be great in RTR form, to current standards especially. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: Manchester Central 1960s by MMU Visual Resources I've always found it rather interesting that in the early days of blue, BR couldn't decide how much yellow to use on the DMUs. Some just had a small yellow panel, some a full yellow end, and others the yellow wrapped round onto the cab door. Together with variations on the roof dome colour (some were white, even in blue livery) there was a lot of variety. This super shot shows the 'more yellow' option. If I'd been born 50 years earlier my commute from Urmston would no doubt have been on one of these units! Edited December 22, 2023 by Mol_PMB 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 55020 Posted December 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2023 The extended yellow was very rare. There was a standard: Full yellow ends and no wrap around. 99+% were compliant! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 and yet, there were a fair few examples on different classes: At the other extreme, no yellow panel at all (would it have been on the corridor connection cover?) 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 The pics in my previous post were from a very quick search on Flickr. I've also had a look through the book 'First Generation DMUs in Colour' (Stuart Mackay) which includes photos of classes 104, 108, and 113 with wrap-round yellow ends. There are also plenty of photos of DMUs with small yellow panels on blue, sometimes but not always with white roofs. These were probably more common than the wrap-around yellow end. The variant I've only found in one photo (in the same book) is a class 105 in blue with half yellow ends (i.e. the whole bottom half of the end is yellow). Mol 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted December 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2023 13 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: and yet, there were a fair few examples on different classes: At the other extreme, no yellow panel at all (would it have been on the corridor connection cover?) Looks like it: (Robertcwp of this parish Flickr image) Simon 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 On 21/12/2023 at 11:04, Mol_PMB said: A Mk1 coach, a Freightliner(ish)* container flat, and a rake of 16t minerals, all in the same train: from Ernie on Flickr. *Is this actually a former Speedfreight container in blue stripe livery? Mol CA 27ft container https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/speedfreight/e68e4cf20 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/speedfreight/e67e0ad67 Paul 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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