luckymucklebackit Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Avanti are going to try and break the WCML London to Glasgow record held since December 1984, when a prototype Advanced Passenger Train (APT) completed the journey in 3 hours 52 minutes. On Thursday 17th and with a potential repeat run the following week, 1Z57 class 390 Pendo set is timetabled for a 3hr 51 minute non-stop run. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:S00619/2021-06-17/detailed if my experiences of northbound WCML expresses are anything to go by, chances are that it will get stuck behind a local somewhere between Carstairs and Central! Jim 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dagrizz Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2021 Is it my maths or does that timetable indicate a run of 3hr 53min? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 The question, of course, is “Why?”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, pH said: The question, of course, is “Why?”. Because we can... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 Looks like a serious attempt, other passenger services being looped or sent on the Slow Lines to ensure an uninterrupted run, should be interesting to watch on Traksy Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 Are they feeling left out of this cracking business and trying to find a way of getting some too? Love a good record attempt - but they're not planning on beating it by much by the looks of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted June 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Mike_Walker said: Because we can... "We choose to got to Glasgow in under 3 hours 53 minutes, not because it is easy, but because it is hard" 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted June 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2021 Working from the normal trains that schedule just looks like the normal one with all pathing and engineering allowances stripped out along with station dwell, acceleration and deceleration allowances. They would add up to about 50 minutes on some services. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 390044 allox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) If anyone wants to watch it's progress more or less realtime there are several signal maps available. Here's one which shows routing information - you can click the link to the next map as it progresses. https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/lec1#T_EUSTON PS - the train is currently in platform 16 (as of 09:45 on 17/06/21) Edited June 17, 2021 by beast66606 strange CApitALs and platform 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Easy - It's all downhill from Glasgow to London (look at a globe). They should try it going north --- (Unless the world is indeed flat !!!!!) Brit15 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, APOLLO said: Easy - It's all downhill from Glasgow to London (look at a globe). They should try it going north --- (Unless the world is indeed flat !!!!!) Brit15 They are .... (that's why it starts from Euston ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, beast66606 said: They are .... (that's why it starts from Euston ) arrrrgh - Got it the wrong way round !! Should pass our house at Boars Head at 12.20 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:S00619/2021-06-17/detailed I might take a look, she'll be going a fair clip up Boars Head bank (1 in 105). Good luck to Avanti for the record attempt. Brit15 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 16/06/2021 at 09:44, TheSignalEngineer said: Working from the normal trains that schedule just looks like the normal one with all pathing and engineering allowances stripped out along with station dwell, acceleration and deceleration allowances. They would add up to about 50 minutes on some services. There's a Euston - Glasgow service train 1S52 which leaves Euston 20 mins before it, assuming all goes to time the record attempt will overtake this between Crewe and Winsford - ie 1S52 is booked slow line out of Crewe, that would make a nice photo/video of 2 Pendos side by side travelling at high speed in the same direction, I wish I had a Star Trek transporter to take me (and 2 disposable security guards) to Coppenhall Junction. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) Road set from platform 16 - greens all the way up to Wembley Watford at the moment And we're off Edited June 17, 2021 by beast66606 train departed 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2021 For anyone trying to track its progress on Open Time Trains it's showing as 180Q not 1Z57. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just watched it pass Watford Junction cameras - 1 early 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 1D85 (a Voyager) has been sent slow line from Ledburn Junction to give 1Z57 a clear run on the fast - they've planned well for this run with "slower" trains being moved out of the way as it races North - it still has to get passed The Crucible of course (Warrington* PSB) * Other PSBs are available. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted June 17, 2021 Administrators Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, beast66606 said: 390044 allox Now you've seen it on the Watford camera is there any special graphics on it to differentiate it (or XR3 go-faster stripes)? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, AY Mod said: Now you've seen it on the Watford camera is there any special graphics on it to differentiate it (or XR3 go-faster stripes)? It's full Avanti livery, nothing special unfortunately - not even a headboard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I assume someone will capture a photo of it passing the APT at Crewe. Not sure if any of the APT set at Crewe was involved in the original record but it would still be a nice moment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted June 17, 2021 Administrators Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, beast66606 said: It's full Avanti livery, nothing special unfortunately - not even a headboard Cheers for that; if there'd been anything unusual I'd have nipped down to TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted June 17, 2021 Administrators Share Posted June 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, beast66606 said: 1D85 (a Voyager) has been sent slow line from Ledburn Junction to give 1Z57 a clear run on the fast - they've planned well for this run with "slower" trains being moved out of the way as it races North - it still has to get passed The Crucible of course (Warrington* PSB) * Other PSBs are available. Looks like it may be very hot on the heels of 1H18 by Colwich. https://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/G81644/2021-06-17 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, AY Mod said: Cheers for that; if there'd been anything unusual I'd have nipped down to TV. Remember it was passing quite fast, so I may have missed something 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) It was 1 minute early because it left 1 minute early, currently only half a minute up so it's losing time rather than gaining it. Should have put some GBRF go faster stripes on it to help it go quicker. Edit, it got 30 seconds back at Milton Keynes, back to 1 minute early. Edited June 17, 2021 by woodenhead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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