RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23 15 hours ago, melmerby said: Having seen what they are like on here, I've just taken the plunge and ordered a Choccy & Cream set. Good service from Rails Was showing as 4 in stock and 2 pre-order but have shipped all 6 today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted February 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23 51 minutes ago, melmerby said: Good service from Rails Was showing as 4 in stock and 2 pre-order but have shipped all 6 today. I pre-ordered 4, then pre-ordered the missing 2. Just got 2 different shipping notices from Rails. So looks like I might be getting some coaches next week :) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, Al51 said: Am I right by assuming that if you don't want any lights on at all, you can just remove the blanking plate from under the roof? Al Yes, but having done it I'll pass on a couple of tips. The dc blanking plate is difficult to remove as it is recessed into the lighting bar, and needs to be pulled backwards, but you can't get your fingers around the sides and limited space at the end. I used small bent nose pliers to grab the end, pull down slightly to clear the bar and pull along the bar to release. The roof is easy to unclip but beware, the brake coach needs the handrails releasing. I did this at the roof as they are not glued into the roof. Re clipping the roof is not so easy, as the sides spring out slightly when the roof is removed and part of the roof location is a recessed section at the top of the sides, which locates inside the roof edge. So to replace, the sides need to be gently pushed in at the top while pushing the roof down over it's clips in order that the side top edge locates inside the roof. Best to do this by each pair of clips working along the roof from one end. Edited February 23 by rembrow 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted February 24 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24 My first 4 gwr just arrived.. Very, very nice. But I have I question the logic to not have included couplings for the non brake ends, and one for the brake end. Might need to investigate some magnetic options.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 24 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24 39 minutes ago, sjrixon said: My first 4 gwr just arrived.. Very, very nice. But I have I question the logic to not have included couplings for the non brake ends, and one for the brake end. Might need to investigate some magnetic options.. I thought they are suppose to have close couplers as per prototype? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted February 24 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24 8 minutes ago, melmerby said: I thought they are suppose to have close couplers as per prototype? I think there's a TL and a short and long coupling bar in the pack. I'm not able to check ATM unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 24 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24 Just now, Tim Dubya said: I think there's a TL and a short and long coupling bar in the pack. I'm not able to check ATM unfortunately. That's what I thought came with them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted February 24 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24 (edited) They do.. But connecting more than 2, gets really hard. Edited February 24 by sjrixon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aac Posted February 24 Popular Post Share Posted February 24 I have taken some shots of my BR toplights on my Liverpool Hanover Street to show the coaches in a layout setting as someone requested. Rule 1 applies - an Ivatt 2-6-4T is in charge of a stopping train to Warrington. My buying these coaches was aimed at being able to portray an older style coach hanging onto life in a lower level of utilisation than it had previously enjoyed. A bit of weathering will be required, but then I hope to have grubby stock in an early-60s scenario before Dr Beeching gets his hands on the place. I'm also pleased that they are such good, compact models: the overall roof under which they sit is 44 inches from the end window with the (Birmingham Snow Hill-style) staircase to the end with the (Liverpool Lime Street-style) clock, so they give the impression that the station is longer than it is, hence a greater sense of space. I have included a shot with a long CCT to show how the roof height differs, and also a shot of the underframe detail showing the rods going under the bogies from their attachment points. As an aside, I too have received upside-down hook and bar couplings, so that the hooks are on the wrong side. Someone on the couplings building bench needs a bit of re-training! - but actually it takes seconds to get the hook out, and turn the bar over. You can see they are wrong because the bar's lip is uppermost initially. You only get hook and bars (one) with brake ends: the internal end of the brakes and all coaches internal to the rake come with straight-bar close couplers,presumably to leave them in a fixed rake. The coupling is articulated and sprung off the bogie assembly - very neat. Hope this helps. I'll repeat my earlier verdict that these are great, solid, chunky coaches that just feel right as soon as they come out of the box. aac 31 1 1 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 The BR crimson ones seem particularly suited to 'Rule Number 1' locations. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted February 24 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24 (edited) 16 hours ago, Miss Prism said: The BR crimson ones seem particularly suited to 'Rule Number 1' locations. Guilty as charged, and even in a different region, BR(S) / ex-LSWR branchline in the west country in my case. I once saw a photo of an ex-Barry Railway brake 2nd (?) on a GW branch in Devon, which inspired me to apply for the license for this one in a similar location. I'm tempted to add I have ordered a composite 😄🤔 Edited February 25 by Tim Dubya cheeky photo 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold kingmender Posted February 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25 7 hours ago, sjrixon said: They do.. But connecting more than 2, gets really hard. Did someone flush the lavatory in the station? Evidence in the four foot. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25 9 hours ago, Tim Dubya said: Guilty as charged, and even in a different region, BR(S) / ex-LSWR branchline in the west country in my case. I once saw a photo of an ex-Barry Railway brake 2nd (?) on a GW branch in Devon, which inspired me to apply for the license for this brake 2nd in a similar location. I'm tempted to add I have ordered a composite 😄🤔 Sounds like the Hemyock branch, where gaslit coaches were used because speeds were too low and the distance too short for the dynamos to charge the batteries. ISTR a BPGV. brake 3rd was used at one time, and this stock had a similar loading gauge profike to the Mainline & City coaches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 10 hours ago, kingmender said: Did someone flush the lavatory in the station? Evidence in the four foot. That's taking weathering too far. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 18 hours ago, sjrixon said: They do.. But connecting more than 2, gets really hard. I've replaced the between coach couplers with Hunt magnetic straight couplers, ultra close version. The brake end hook couplers are also quite long so have replaced these with Accurascale nem couplings that I had spare, they are shorter. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aac Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Hemyock did have the ex-Barry stock, and Paul Karau's Great Western Branch Line Termini (Wild Swan Publications) shows W263 in the charactersitic formation of a single coach plus milk tanks. Apparently, right at the end of the branch's life, some ex-LNER stock was used briefly. It was said that having old stock upcycled to the branch kept open the passenger service that might otherwise have been withdrawn sooner. aac 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted February 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25 34 minutes ago, rembrow said: I've replaced the between coach couplers with Hunt magnetic straight couplers, ultra close version. The brake end hook couplers are also quite long so have replaced these with Accurascale nem couplings that I had spare, they are shorter. Ultra is 3.7mm.. That's close! Measuring the connection, looks to be more like 11mm total distance between the coaches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted February 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25 (edited) 9 hours ago, The Johnster said: Sounds like the Hemyock branch, where gaslit coaches were used because speeds were too low and the distance too short for the dynamos to charge the batteries. ISTR a BPGV. brake 3rd was used at one time, and this stock had a similar loading gauge profike to the Mainline & City coaches. Hemyock branch indeed, thank you. The photo is at Culmstock with a 14xx and the coach. It's in this £2:99 charity shop find 👍 "..... Consequently, it was still possible on 2 December 1961 to see 0-4-2T No 1451 taking the 1.45pm from Tiverton Junction out of Culmstock towards Hemyock, a scene little changed in 80 years. The return journey will be more profitable for the railway, with five or six loaded milk tanks ahead of the old gaslit Barry Railway coach." Edited February 25 by Tim Dubya 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Tim Dubya said: Hemyock branch indeed, Must be a candidate for the most published branch in the country?! The Barry coaches were later replaced by Thompsons which Hornby already make (so another similar "rule 1" candidate) Edited February 25 by Hal Nail 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aac Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 20 minutes ago, Hal Nail said: Must be a candidate for the most published branch in the country?! The Barry coaches were later replaced by Thompsons which Hornby already make (so another similar "rule 1" candidate) That's it. Google "Hemyock LNER coaches" for the evidence. aac 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, sjrixon said: Ultra is 3.7mm.. That's close! Measuring the connection, looks to be more like 11mm total distance between the coaches. No, the Hunt elite ultra is spec at 7mm from end of nem to front of magnet, making a pair of couplings have 14mm gap. Have checked my remaining spares and 14mm connected gap is correct. They are about 3mm longer than the Dapol provided longest coupler. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, rembrow said: I've replaced the between coach couplers with Hunt magnetic straight couplers, ultra close version. As a fan of these couplings any chance of a photo between the two coaches please @rembrow 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted February 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25 (edited) 45 minutes ago, rembrow said: No, the Hunt elite ultra is spec at 7mm from end of nem to front of magnet, making a pair of couplings have 14mm gap. Have checked my remaining spares and 14mm connected gap is correct. They are about 3mm longer than the Dapol provided longest coupler. Thanks.. Guess who was on the 009 version! Their website isn't the best.. Edited February 25 by sjrixon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25 Hemyock was about as 'Devon' as it got! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I have initiated my purchases of these with GWR 3751 today! An amazing model and I look forward to seeing the others. A question, can anyone tell me the eras that each of the six sets would work with please (in particular the GWR ones)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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