eastwestdivide Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) Dropped in at Elsecar today, and found a pretty bare looking site, with only 4 vehicles on the rails: 2 locos, a GW brake van and a Sturgeon-looking wagon. No sign of the Mk1s that they had. Rebuilt Sentinel Elizabeth in the foreground, Louise and wagon in the background, a boiler on the left on the ground: The two locos again: Hunslet Louise: GW brake van 68499: Off the rails was still the broken wagon underframe: And a sign saying it's now Barnsley Metropolitan Borough Council property: Edited February 23, 2022 by eastwestdivide 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I'm surprised there is anything there at all, I was under the impression it had all been sold/scrapped when the trustees gave the lease up. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 I don’t have any other information unfortunately. The site https://www.elsecarheritagerailway.co.uk suggests there will be a consultation in Feb/Mar this year but I’ve not seen anything about it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 That is a shame. I have visited them on a couple of occasions and found them friendly and helpful. Gordon A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 i'm puzzled what the boiler is from because both The Monster and the Earl have left for new homes else were. The wagon chassis is whats left of a private owner 12 ton that was rotting away behind the loco shed, there wasnt much left of the body anyway when i last saw it some years ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, sir douglas said: i'm puzzled what the boiler is I’m really no good on boiler ID. May not even be a loco boiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Looks like a smokebox to me. There appears to be a central wheel and locking handle on the door. Can't see if there is a boiler attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted February 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2022 Don't know anything about the site, but a quick look at the entry on Google Maps brings up some user submitted photos which seemingly show the boiler and smokebox in question: https://goo.gl/maps/9GqeWh9Y7XvzRpPXA https://goo.gl/maps/hiMXzm3bjpCecJY39 Don't know any more details, and this is the first time I've even heard of the line, but it looks lovely; here's hoping something will be done to secure its future! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Did the new line extension get finished, before they give up the ghost ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) On slight plus point BR CCT and a Dogfish ballast wagon full of ballast & vegetation arrived at Lincolnshire Wolds Railway recently. From a purely local interest however what happened to William the Sentinel shunter ex Courtaulds Grimsby?? Edited February 25, 2022 by DOCJACOB Spellcheck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Ray M said: Did the new line extension get finished, before they give up the ghost ? I think the track is there (to almost Cortonwood colliery/retail park) but there was a lot of wrangling over a road level crossing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 The track was laid, Cortonwood platform was built and the Hemingway crossing was laid which just needed the barriers fitted, but it was getting the permission to use it that was the problem, though i cant remember any of the details 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Does anyone know what has happened to KESR liveried sentinel Gervase since Elsecar fell on hard times? A quick Google has not provided answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37079 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 24/02/2022 at 13:43, didcot said: Looks like a smokebox to me. There appears to be a central wheel and locking handle on the door. Can't see if there is a boiler attached. Second photo shows it is a boiler. Looks like that from RSH 0-4-0st ‘Birkenhead’ to me. I think this was dismantled for overhaul at Elsecar a few years ago? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2mm Andy Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 The Mk1 coaches have gone to the Chinnor & Princes Risborough Railway it seems, and the last reported location of 'Gervase' was the Buckinghamshire Railway Centre; https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/sentinel-works-no-6807-gervase-0-4-0-vbgt/ Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 Dropped in at Elsecar today (12 March ‘23). Track mostly lifted in the station area, with notices explaining it’s for archaeological explorations. This newspaper article: https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/heritage/elsecar-heritage-railway-track-to-be-lifted-at-scheduled-monument-site-in-yorkshire-but-sustainable-future-likely-for-attraction-3957274 explains that the station is now a scheduled ancient monument, hence the investigations. Also hints at future plans for the site. The only rail vehicles visible today were the Sentinel loco ‘Elizabeth’, a GW brake van and a wrecked wagon chassis. Photos later with a bit of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 a little story about the Toad i just remembered, it was on long term loan from the NRM under agreement that they restore it and then give it back after so many years, so they intentionally did it with the wrong sized planking so NRM wouldnt want it back until it was fixed and theyve kept it ever since 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Photos from yesterday: Station area track ripped up, archaeology notice The website link in the archaeology photo leads to 'page not found', but google has it cached at https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:osNIleLm3pUJ:https://www.elsecar-heritage.com/forging-ahead&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk quoted here: Quote Over recent months, thanks to the extensive and positive response to consultation earlier in the year, an inspiring new vision has been coming together for the future of a heritage railway in Elsecar. That vision to create a sustainable future for a heritage railway in the village will need significant investment, which is currently being explored. We look forward to revealing more details of that vision over the coming weeks and months. Thanks to the Elsecar Heritage Action Zone's work, the railway station area and yard site, originally the Elsecar Ironworks, are now a Scheduled Ancient Monument. This means that we need a very close understanding of archaeology and ground conditions to plan for future structures that may be required for that new vision for the heritage railway. Over the coming weeks, sections of the modern track in the station area, laid since the 1990s, will be lifted so archaeological digs and ground investigations can take place. This will also allow small temporary structures and cabins, which belong to third parties, to be removed from the site. We are also doing seasonal maintenance work to the rest of the track route. The Railway Trust handed its lease to the land back to the Council in 2020. This did not include any rolling stock. A great deal of work has been carried out to establish how a successful and sustainable heritage railway offer can be re-established at Elsecar, reflecting the pride in our railway heritage and what it can mean for our region’s visitor economy. We look forward to sharing more about that work and the resulting vision soon. Loco Elizabeth by level crossing with brake van behind derelict wagon chassis Detail of wagon plate LNER standard 12 tons 1927 Darlington 95091 GW brake van 68499 next to loco 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Looks like Barnsley council have had consultants come up with a £25M idea involving rebuilding the site and a new 1849 steam loco. No mention of where they will attempt to get the funds from nor how or who would operate the railway. For more info see https://www.elsecar-heritage.com/forging-ahead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Some very over ambitious sounding ideas there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunalastair Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Interesting choice of graphic ... I wonder who those 'consultants were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 8, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) I noticed the Finnish log burning loco… (er sorry sustainable fuel burner). I wonder.. hmm. Edited November 8, 2023 by adb968008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 There are plenty of semi-derelict Finnish locos dumped around the UK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted November 8, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2023 6 hours ago, AMJ said: Looks like Barnsley council have had consultants come up with a £25M idea involving rebuilding the site and a new 1849 steam loco. No mention of where they will attempt to get the funds from nor how or who would operate the railway. For more info see https://www.elsecar-heritage.com/forging-ahead Oh goody. An outdoor performance area. That's always a sure sign of something awful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted November 8, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2023 Presumably the '1849 Fitzwilliam locomotive' is the Isaac Dodds 0-4-2 of that name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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