Frodingham diesel depot plans and track plans

[darren chpamn]

Hi everyone  I'm doing some research on frodingham depot as a possible layout idea

Im after information on the depot its self and the track plan too

Looking at pictures I gather its able to get a peak inside the depot  but if anyone has actual size or plans of the building that would be great

Kind regards  darren

 

[Bri.dolan]

There’s a magazine publication called 

On Shed with various volumes .

they have trackplans and sometimes shed building plans 

I don’t know which one frodingham would be in but worth a look see if they’ve covered the shed in one of the magazines 

 

brian 

Edited July 3, 2022 by Bri.dolan

[DOCJACOB]

Suspect you need to look at British Railways Engine Sheds: an LNER Inheritance No 1 & Illustrated History of Scunthorpes Railways 

 

Pretty sure the extensive rebuild of Frodingham was covered photographically (including all groundworks) in No 1 but would need to dig it out of my collection.   

 

Can message me 

[Rivercider]

I have no measurements or plans, but here is a photo I took in 1982.

On shed are 20015, 20053, class 114 set 50033 + 56049, and 20052, 25/6/82,

 

cheers 

[nigb55009]

Volume 3 of the " On Shed " series covers the southern half of the Eastern Region. Page 76 features an article on Frodingham, including a plan of the depot

and detailed drawings of the shed itself.

The part work was published by Kelsey Media. AFAIK, back issues are still available.

[darren chpamn]

39 minutes ago, nigb55009 said:

Volume 3 of the " On Shed " series covers the southern half of the Eastern Region. Page 76 features an article on Frodingham, including a plan of the depot

and detailed drawings of the shed itself.

The part work was published by Kelsey Media. AFAIK, back issues are still available.

Thanks have just ordered a copy 

[darren chpamn]

Having received  my copy of on shed I have a few more requests 

Does any on have any pictures of the office block at the rear of the shed and also there is a small building on the opposite side to the fuel tanks 

Regards darren

[D8052]

Sorry, I'm a bit late to this post, but are you still looking for pics or info? It was my local depot so visited many times over the years 1967 to 1974 ish. I can point you to some pictures to assist and can perhaps give you a few clues from material I have to hand.

 

When you talk about the building on the opposite side of the shed to the fuel tanks, are you talking about a second external office structure, or the sanding system machinery building built in brick?  The shed had four sand silos that dispensed sand into loco sand boxes on the three roads that went into the shed and on one additional road.

 

In terms of size of the shed, with a Class 40 there wasn't much room between the buffers and the inside of the door. A slightly shorter Class 45/46 fitted in snugly.  With Class 47s, 31s, 37, 25s and the local class 20s, they all had plenty of room inside the shed.  You could almost get a pair of Class 20s coupled nose to nose into the shed.  The inner wheel of the outer bogie would be level with the door. 

 

By my calculations, the shed was about 27.2 metres long excluding the office building. The Class 40 was 21.18m and the Class 45 was 20.7m long, so you can see there wasn't too much free space at the door end. 

 

From the door to the inspection pit, there was a walkway about 4-5 feet wide, and at the inner end of the shed, there was another open area about 15 feet wide.  That gives you almost 90 feet of working space.  This closely approximates with my calculations from also using other methods, to about 27.2 metres.

 

I have done my own track plan based on OO gauge if you have not yet done one.  North is top of page on the attached track plan.  The right-hand track joins the main and relief lines at Dawes Lane bridge adjacent Frodingham Trent Junction signal box. The line to the left joins the line that went out to Normanby Park and Flixborough and joins this line at the signal box controlling the Dawes Lane crossing gates.

 

 

[Rivercider]

That is a great comprehensive reply, Frodingham was a place I only visited a couple of times,

My last visit over 40 years ago, and I am struggling to place the other photos I took there.

 

 

Traincrew were boarding 31192 in the yard at Frodingham. 25/6/82

 

31111 in the yard at Frodingham. What was the yellow van behind the loco, a former fish van? I see on Paul Bartlett's site that 042206 (former 88038) was still in the Scunthorpe area many years later. 25/6/82

 

cheers  

[stovepipe]

Yes an ex-blue spot d801 fish van. After passing through the NPCCS fleet as SPVs, a number later became tool vans and barrier vehicles.

[Forward!]

Taking measurements from the postwar 1:2500 OS Map, the building described as engine maintenance shed is 52 metres in length (total, including offices) and 19 metres wide (shed) widening to 28.7 metres wide (offices).

[black and decker boy]

AFAIK, the diesel depot is still standing though appears to have been reclad and is in use by VolkerRail for OTP maintenance 

 

this image is off google

 

Maybe a polite request to measure up would be granted?

 

[Forward!]

The footprints appear to match up substantially on the historic mapping, although the current building is longer. (1964 OS 1:1250 map and 2023 OS)

 

 

[stovepipe]

The diesel shed opened in Feb 1966, but does look to be the same shape as that OS plan - with the exception of the part sticking out to the left.

 

I've a feeling the reprints of On Shed magazine don't include the fold-out pages the original run did. Certainly that is the case with LMR issue 1 I ordered recently.

 

In the original edition - the dimensions of the 1966 diesel shed (excluding offices) are given as 98ft long by 62ft wide, based on a 60ft wide portal frame to standard ER design. There are drawing elevations showing the building from all four sides including the offices.

 

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by stovepipe

[Rugd1022]

I posted this elsewhere a little while ago, might as well post it in here...

 

 

My last visit there was in December 1982, by god I thought it was bleak!

 

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Rugd1022