Gordon A Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I have purchased a couple of built and painted cast white metal locomotives. The chassis's were also cast metal. I think I remember there used to be a range of 00 cast white metal industrial kits but cannot remember the name of the range. I believe the range was acquired by Adrian Swain. Can anyone tell me the name of the range please? Thanks. Gordon Ashton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 57 minutes ago, Gordon A said: I have purchased a couple of built and painted cast white metal locomotives. The chassis's were also cast metal. I think I remember there used to be a range of 00 cast white metal industrial kits but cannot remember the name of the range. I believe the range was acquired by Adrian Swain. Can anyone tell me the name of the range please? Thanks. Gordon Ashton Can you post some photos of your locos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieb Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Centre Models possibly? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted October 6, 2022 Administrators Share Posted October 6, 2022 I'd go for Centre Models. There's an Avonside in my fleet from that source but there were more in the range. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 As requested, pictures of the two locos I purchased yesterday. I think Polly is a model of an RSH saddle tank. And this one is a model of a Hunslet, but I am not sure which type. Gordon A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted October 6, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) Those are almost certainly Centre Models kits. Archived link here to the RSH one. Could the other one be a 16" Hunslet? https://www.nnrailway.co.uk/portfolio-items/hunslet-16-0-6-0st-no-1982-ring-haw/ I don't recall there being many kits in the Centre Models range, I remember a KS Victory & possibly a Hunslet 50550 (forerunner of the Austerity). Both kits look well finished, I think you have found a bargain there Gordon. Edited October 6, 2022 by Moxy more info about Hunslet 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Thanks everyone. I need some new safety valves, brass, for the Hunslet. Any suggestions? I will be replacing both chassis's as I dabble in P4. I will be checking Mike edges Hunslet kit that is in my stockpile. I may have a chat with Chris G re the RSH chassis. Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Yes, the chassis looks to be exactly the same design as my Kerr Stuart Victory from Centre Models: For 'pop' type valves, if that's what they are, I have become fond of old Triang turned brass ones, which can be picked up cheaply from ebay. They even come pre-weathered due to their age! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 6, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Gordon A said: As requested, pictures of the two locos I purchased yesterday. I think Polly is a model of an RSH saddle tank. And this one is a model of a Hunslet, but I am not sure which type. Gordon A 16", easiest way to distinguish it from a 15" is the leading sandboxes under the footplate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michael Edge said: 16", easiest way to distinguish it from a 15" is the leading sandboxes under the footplate. And the hand rail knobs. 15" locos have four along the tank side. To be fair I would want to measure the overall length. It has a look of a fifteen and a half........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) Centre Models, assuming it was the same firm, also made kits of Leek & Manifold stock, including loco, coaches, transporter wagon, and I think a van. They were quite challenging (!) to build well, but (other people’s) looked very good when completed. Edited October 6, 2022 by Nearholmer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Centre Models, assuming it was the same firm, also made kits of Leek & Manifold stock, including loco, coaches, transporter wagon, and I think a van. They were quite challenging (!) to build well, but (other people’s) looked very good when completed. Centre Models also did a Midland 3F and a GCR(?) / LNER J?; (I know little of such things). I bought the former, but it remains unbuilt - if such a feat is possible!! I resorted, in due course, to the subsequent MPD Models kit. John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I agree they are Centre Models kits which were made using plans that had appeared in Railway Modeller. I have one of the 16" Hunslets. I am envious of you getting the RSH 0-4-0 looks nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 8, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2022 I have an Avonside,the Hunslet 16", Kerr Stewart Victory , a RSH and a 3F. Missed out on the big Hunslet. If you put some work in they looked OK.the Avonside and 16" have Sharman wheels fitted.. I am sometimes a glutton for punishment! Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2022 Teh RSH has a compensated chassis provided by Mike Edge Baz 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Is the middle one a Hudswell Clarke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, doilum said: Is the middle one a Hudswell Clarke? Nope. From the top Avonside Hunslet Kerr Stewart Robert Stephenson Hawthorn Midland 3F Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 21 hours ago, Barry O said: Sharman wheels fitted.. I am sometimes a glutton for punishment! Baz Hi Baz, Are there issues with Sharman wheels? I've just acquired some from the remaining stocks at Phoenix precision paints, are there shortcomings/pitfalls I should be wary of? Many thanks Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, rope runner said: Hi Baz, Are there issues with Sharman wheels? I've just acquired some from the remaining stocks at Phoenix precision paints, are there shortcomings/pitfalls I should be wary of? Many thanks Paul A. These were fine. Some larger diameter ones used to bow/dish. Some find them difficult to fit and quarter. These were fine. Bas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, rope runner said: Hi Baz, Are there issues with Sharman wheels? I've just acquired some from the remaining stocks at Phoenix precision paints, are there shortcomings/pitfalls I should be wary of? Many thanks Paul A. If they are the nylon centred ones which PP produced they will be very good, if they are older they might be OK but the original plastic wasn’t entirely stable. If they aren’t concentric they can’t be machined because of the (unnecessarily) deep undercut into the steel tyre. I have recently fitted a very old set to a P4 L&Y 4-4-0 and they were fine. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2022 I have a fair size pile of Sharman wheels which all seem OK. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 They all look OK until you use them...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 On 06/10/2022 at 10:42, Moxy said: Those are almost certainly Centre Models kits. Archived link here to the RSH one. Could the other one be a 16" Hunslet? https://www.nnrailway.co.uk/portfolio-items/hunslet-16-0-6-0st-no-1982-ring-haw/ I don't recall there being many kits in the Centre Models range, I remember a KS Victory & possibly a Hunslet 50550 (forerunner of the Austerity). Both kits look well finished, I think you have found a bargain there Gordon. Fancy meeting 'Geoffrey' here🙂. I'm sure you must remember him Gordon after all the happy hours spent with him on 'Enigma Engineering'! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Many thanks for the advice regarding Sharman wheels. The ones here look recently manufactured, so fingers crossed! Paul A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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