RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Andy Kirkham said: I never know whether John Ahern's surname is pronouced "AY - hurn" or "uh-HURN" (or some other fashion) I've supposed "a-hern"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share Posted October 20, 2023 A while back I mentioned Claughton brickworks in this topic. Sadly it is now due to close because of falling demand for bricks in the building industry. Not the first time this has happened; let us hope that there will be another revival and it can open once more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Ohmisterporter said: A while back I mentioned Claughton brickworks in this topic. Sadly it is now due to close because of falling demand for bricks in the building industry. Not the first time this has happened; let us hope that there will be another revival and it can open once more. Crazy considering how much building is going on these days - but of course very little of it is brick, with modern houses just getting a single layer of brick cladding on the outside... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 11/12/2022 at 23:22, Andy Kirkham said: I never know whether John Ahern's surname is pronouced "AY - hurn" or "uh-HURN" (or some other fashion) Six decades ago when his name was sometimes mentioned by those who actually knew him, they always said "A-hern" with a soft A but neither syllable emphasised. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, bécasse said: Six decades ago when his name was sometimes mentioned by those who actually knew him, they always said "A-hern" with a soft A but neither syllable emphasised. That's how I've always pronounced it, despite not having the privilege of having spoken to those who knew him - or at least, not knowingly. I first visited Pendon and saw the Madder Valley around about 1988; I wonder, did they have a voice-over tape on continuous play? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 That's easy. We had Bertie Ahern on the news for decades, and was in the era that the BBC tended to get things like that right! I would also say it's the same pronunciation as Caroline Aherne. Scorchio! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I’m surprised that Marylebone hasn’t been mentioned. The RP now seems to be “mar-lee-bone”, when for me it has always been “marry-le-bone” (as in “take a trip to Marylebone Station and if you pass Go...”). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, EddieB said: I’m surprised that Marylebone hasn’t been mentioned. The RP now seems to be “mar-lee-bone”, when for me it has always been “marry-le-bone” (as in “take a trip to Marylebone Station and if you pass Go...”). When I grew up in London it was always MAR-l'-b'n. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 My old man - born 1925, worked on LT from the late 40s, and Mum was born within earshot of Bow Bells in 1934. Marylebone was always 'Marry - le - bone' to them. Other areas of London which shall remain nameless - many of which are now altered beyond recognition, often for the better would be unrecognizable to Dad who retired in 1990, died in 95 whose London vernacular language frequently referred to places as a "s***hole' - as in 'what's x or y like Dad?" - "a s***hole boy". 😉 Best regards Matt W 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) What about MODEL railway words ? ................ any manufacturer can call their range whatever they like ( within limits ) and pronounce it as they wish - but I have friends who insist in calling a couple of new-ish manufacturers "AccYOUrascale" and "RapEEEdo" which don't sound right to my ears ; I'd accentuate Accurascale and Rapido on the first syllable. Edited October 23, 2023 by Wickham Green too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted October 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2023 Sounds like time to argue over Dapol again..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: What about MODEL railway words ? ................ any manufacturer can call their range whatever they like ( within limits ) and pronounce it as the wish - but I have friends who insist in calling a couple of new-ish manufacturers "AccYOUrascale" and "RapEEEdo" which don't sound right to my ears ; I'd accentuate Accurascale and Rapido on the first syllable. They've focused on the wrong scale to be Rapid-O. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BR60103 Posted October 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2023 Having been around some of their people, Rapido is accented on the second. It comes from a CN train of the 60s, with a heavy French influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BachelorBoy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 17 hours ago, New Haven Neil said: Sounds like time to argue over Dapol again..... An awful name. No matter how you pronounce it, it always sounds like a brand of toilet cleaner 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BachelorBoy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Rapido pronuncation from 1989 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibelroad Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I think this is a modern problem, it’s all to easy now for someone to lay down the law and say this is how a word should be pronounced. Traditionally English has been a living language and words and pronunciation have evolved, there are many examples of regional variations. I have never been much good at languages and don’t understand why the composer Bach is called Bark, which is why I have always thought that the model manufacturer was called Barkman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Talking about modern mispronunciations that I find annoying include saw being pronounced with an r instead of w, for no good reason as far as I know. If you see me cutting a piece of wood please do not say, "I sore you soring". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BachelorBoy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Ohmisterporter said: Talking about modern mispronunciations that I find annoying include saw being pronounced with an r instead of w, for no good reason as far as I know. If you see me cutting a piece of wood please do not say, "I sore you soring". I blame pirates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TinTracks Posted October 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Ohmisterporter said: Talking about modern mispronunciations that I find annoying include saw being pronounced with an r instead of w, for no good reason as far as I know. If you see me cutting a piece of wood please do not say, "I sore you soring". Agreed. Another mispronunciation that annoys me and Mrs TinTracks is drawing pronounced as drawring. Every time that McCloud bloke off Grand Designs or Paul off Flog It refer to ''drawrings'' I have to restrain her from throwing her metal specs case at the telly. Mind you up here in the frozen north we do tend to miss off the g from the end. ''drawin'' Sorry for possible OT Regards. Rich 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, BachelorBoy said: I blame pirates. I always get pirates and pilates mixed-up... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Ohmisterporter said: Talking about modern mispronunciations that I find annoying include saw being pronounced with an r instead of w, for no good reason as far as I know. If you see me cutting a piece of wood please do not say, "I sore you soring". 41 minutes ago, TinTracks said: Agreed. Another mispronunciation that annoys me and Mrs TinTracks is drawing pronounced as drawring. Every time that McCloud bloke off Grand Designs or Paul off Flog It refer to ''drawrings'' I have to restrain her from throwing her metal specs case at the telly. Mind you up here in the frozen north we do tend to miss off the g from the end. ''drawin'' Sorry for possible OT Regards. Rich 24 minutes ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: I always get pirates and pilates mixed-up... It's nothing new. Intrusive R, as it is called, was first noted in English in the 1700s. It is a common feature of many accents of both rhotic and non-rhotic, even Received Pronunciation, despite traditionally being stigmatised. Maggie Thatcher, for one, used to speak of 'Laura Norder' (Law and Order). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: I always get pirates and pilates mixed-up... Pilates are people who drive aircraft, aren't they ..... ??!? Edited October 24, 2023 by Wickham Green too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted October 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Pilates are people who drive aircraft, aren't they ..... ??!? Yes. And the first man to fly was called Pontius. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted October 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Welchester said: Yes. And the first man to fly was called Pontius. Are you sure? Joseph and Mary flew to Egypt with the baby Jesus (for a winter holiday at Sharm El-Sheikh, perhaps), but Pontius the Pilot didn't appear on the scene till thirty or so years later. I suppose he could have given up flying and decided to enter politics instead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 hours ago, hexagon789 said: Maggie Thatcher, for one, used to speak of 'Laura Norder' (Law and Order). I thought it was “Lawr and Ordah”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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