Moderators AY Mod Posted January 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2023 Hornby announce streamlined B17/5 for 2023 R30137 Availability DEC 2023 RRP £209.99 DCC Ready 21 pin socket Minimum Curve (mm) Radius 2 Motor 5 Pole Skew wound 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Haha! I was bemoaning the lack of one of these in model form only last week. The streamlining was purely cosmetic but it did suit them. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 So perhaps we should abandon the idea that a loco with a large number of members of the class, a wide geographic range, a wide variety of liveries and long lived, make good models for mass production. Number in the class - 2 Area of operation - London to East Anglia Length of service in this form - 1951 when both were converted to B17/6 and the stream lining removed. So the smaller the number built, the smaller the area of operation and the shorter the length of service is what is going to determine the models Hornby will make! 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Ruddy 'eck! 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 That's a real curve ball, I'd be impressed if anyone had predicted that one! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, rovex said: Number in the class - 2 Area of operation - London to East Anglia Length of service in this form - 1951 when both were converted to B17/6 and the stream lining removed. So the smaller the number built, the smaller the area of operation and the shorter the length of service is what is going to determine the models Hornby will make! It leaves it open no doubt for Hornby to make them in numerous 'fictional' liveries 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 I didn't spot this coming but really should have. As the only LNER Streamliner left to do, it had to happen. A pal of mine would have loved it had he still been around... John 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 Pretty cool! I've always liked the proportions of these. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 What colour were the prototypes (apart from wartime black, I assume)? Were they apple green or garter blue? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) The only thing from this morning that I am likely to buy :) City of London for me please :) I don’t like the valances - for me all of the streamlined locos looked a hundred times better without them Edited January 10, 2023 by Edge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, rogerzilla said: What colour were the prototypes (apart from wartime black, I assume)? Were they apple green or garter blue? Green I believe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Corbs said: Green I believe. Nice. It'll stop people thinking it's a mini-Mallard. Quite tempted. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 Interesting. I believe the only source of the correct coaches is Isinglass, and as a 6 coach set it's easier to run a prototypical length train. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toton Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, rovex said: So perhaps we should abandon the idea that a loco with a large number of members of the class, a wide geographic range, a wide variety of liveries and long lived, make good models for mass production. Number in the class - 2 Area of operation - London to East Anglia Length of service in this form - 1951 when both were converted to B17/6 and the stream lining removed. So the smaller the number built, the smaller the area of operation and the shorter the length of service is what is going to determine the models Hornby will make! Not a new business model :D Hornby have had the GWR 101 Class in their range since the 70s. Only one was built and it never left Swindon. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramshed Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) The B17/5 is welcome news for GE fans. However, I note the CAD shows the loco without side skirting while the photo shows it in pre-war condition. The Hornby site suggests both 2859 in pre-war and 61670 in BR condition are to be released. The CAD is an unfortunate hybrid since 61670 retained the curve behind the cylinders and the CAD omits this. There is also a potential livery error looming with respect to the BR version if this is presented in ‘apple green’. Here is what the RCTS volume says about it: Only one of the streamlined engines, No.61659, received L.N.E.R. green with “BRITISH RAILWAYS” in full. No. 61670 was never repainted green while still streamlined and continued to run in unlined black, but since August 1948 with “BRITISH RAILWAYS” on the tender. I share this in the hope it is helpful to the manufacturer who might shift a few more units among those seeking accuracy. Edited January 10, 2023 by Tramshed correction 4 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty P Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Hornbys website is saying Winter 24' 25' for their release, yet it says Dec 23' here. Something known here which Hornby doesn't?.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Matty P said: Hornbys website is saying Winter 24' 25' for their release, yet it says Dec 23' here. Something known here which Hornby doesn't?.. Or Hornby have changed the dates since the media reveal and not passed the info on? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Every day is a school day; NEVER heard of this creation before the announcement. Fabulous freakery. I'll be sure to run the three I've pre-ordered with my two Fells. 1 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 It's GE section favouritism all over again! You mark my words, next year Hornby will produce an E4! 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty P Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hroth said: It's GE section favouritism all over again! You mark my words, next year Hornby will produce an E4! I wish. All I've wanted from Hornby for the past few years is a Claud in BR Green, still yet to get that 🤣 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan70000 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Definitely unexpected, quite a brave choice but I could well be tempted! GE area modellers have been spoilt by Hornby over the years. These of course were built to run with the dedicated carriage sets built for the East Anglian. I seriously doubt we'll ever see those RTR, but a quick Google reveals a few photos of these two locomotives on secondary services, particularly towards the end of their lives as streamliners. 61659 seems to have lost its parabolic curve when repainted in green after WW2, and 61670 stayed "black" (looks more like a thick coat of grime to me!) until the very end. Plenty of livery pitfalls for the unwary. Did the B17/5s ever make it off the GE and appear on the GC section? What's the furthest north they got? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 They'd look great running on a Minories layout, prototypical train lengths would be achievable too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Hello everyone All the best to Hornby for this announcement. The B17/5 was a new entry in The 00 Wishlist Poll 2022 and came in High Polling. We previously listed it in The Quirky Poll 2021 where it was the top-voted item. Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team) Edited January 10, 2023 by BMacdermott Remove errant bold character 13 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Both got de streamlined at Gorton, there's pics in Dave Gosling's excellent 'Gorton Tank'..... If you need an excuse for one heading 'somewhere north', I guess both worked to Gorton over Woodhead for that. Must admit I quite fancy one.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 G'Day Folks Unexpected, but handy for the Cambridge Buffet Express, I have a picture somewhere of City of London at Kings Cross next to an A4. manna 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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