roythebus1 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Borrowed from the Isle of Wight Steam Railway group, a photo by Julia Snashall showing the difference between new bullhead rail and worn bullhead rail! The IWSR gang are currently renewing some 20-odd lengths on the line from Havenstreet station towards Ashey. The worn rail was laid by British Railways or maybe the Southern Railway and had seen more use in the last 20 years than it did previously! 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2023 A need for lift plates and possibly a shim or two. Lift plates come in a range of lifts, I think it was 1/8th 1/4 and 3/8th, plus some shims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sitham Yard Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Siberian Snooper said: A need for lift plates and possibly a shim or two. Lift plates come in a range of lifts, I think it was 1/8th 1/4 and 3/8th, plus some shims. I presume you are saying that the worn rail is lifted so the top matches the new rail, if correct what happens about fitting fishplates please? Are they joggled to suit? Andrew Edited January 9, 2023 by Sitham Yard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Kinney Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Sitham Yard said: I presume you are saying that the worn rail is lifted so the top matches the new rail, if correct what happens about fitting fishplates please? Are they joggled to suit? Andrew Super Glue!!!! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 The lift plates mentioned are the fishplates, joggled in the centre so one end is higher than the other. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Welding works and even joins bullhead to flat bottom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 8 hours ago, roythebus1 said: Borrowed from the Isle of Wight Steam Railway group, a photo by Julia Snashall showing the difference between new bullhead rail and worn bullhead rail! The IWSR gang are currently renewing some 20-odd lengths on the line from Havenstreet station towards Ashey. The worn rail was laid by British Railways or maybe the Southern Railway and had seen more use in the last 20 years than it did previously! The rail on the right looks positively brand new compared to the stuff in our yard...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Looks like flatbottom, not bullhead. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) All the long lengths of rail I have seen have had the year of manufacture and an indication of the manufacturer rolled into the web. Edited January 10, 2023 by Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Sitham Yard said: I presume you are saying that the worn rail is lifted so the top matches the new rail, if correct what happens about fitting fishplates please? Are they joggled to suit? Andrew Yes, lift plates are joggled, by the amounts that I listed. When I was in the per way gang, of the ESR I cut and welded several pairs of standard plates in half and welded them back together with the required amount of lift/ joggle as a temporary measure. Edited January 10, 2023 by Siberian Snooper forgot to mention the ESR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus1 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) On 10/01/2023 at 07:32, Miss Prism said: Looks like flatbottom, not bullhead. It's new bullhead rail. I've seen the other photos in the series. I've been told the rail on the right is being replaced as well. Note the wear on the fishplate holes! Edited January 11, 2023 by roythebus1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I'm wondering if they are actually different weights of flatbottom rail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 hours ago, AndyID said: I'm wondering if they are actually different weights of flatbottom rail. It comes in different sections/weight depending on specification! The heaviest section I know of is used on the hot metal railway at Scunthorpe steelworks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 09/01/2023 at 23:32, Miss Prism said: Looks like flatbottom, not bullhead. I thought so too, but looking at it again I'm pretty sure it is bullhead. The sharp radii on the bottom profile fooled me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Stevie Posted January 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2023 worn Flat bottom rail anyone 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Bus Driver Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 14/01/2023 at 07:13, Stevie said: worn Flat bottom rail anyone Gradient looks a bit steep 😷😁 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted January 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 14/01/2023 at 07:13, Stevie said: worn Flat bottom rail anyone 2 hours ago, The Evil Bus Driver said: Gradient looks a bit steep 😷😁 Narrow gauge, as well!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus1 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 The rail in my copied photo is bullhead. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 10/01/2023 at 09:21, Gordon A said: All the long lengths of rail I have seen have had the year of manufacture and an indication of the manufacturer rolled into the web. For example, lifted during a relay on the Welshpool & Llanfair last week, rolled in 1901 and still in use in 2022 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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