RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Hi, This thread will be the story of my layout constructed during 2020/2021 when I attempted to use up my excess spare wood and code 100 track. I’m not really one for variety as I already had a BLT and I’m currently doing a similar thing in 7mm. I have since sold on North Molton so I could then move this layout off the floor and continue with it. I will use the first few posts to catch up to where I am with some construction photos….but looking back I’m disappointed to learn I was not always great at taking said pictures. The basic original layout on a 6 foot by 18 inch board. I used softwood from one of my kids old beds for the board frame and bought some sheet material for the top. Code 100 track…..insulfrog points. Left to right…sidings off the single slip (run around)…..Platform road….Bay platform. The track is pinned straight to the board and has been sprayed with sleeper grime. I have tried to balance the head-shunt length, run around capacity, and the desire to have the entry point-work on scene so I can runaround in plain sight. I use kadees a lot in OO so I have buried magnets at strategic points for uncoupling……using rectangular and round magnets. After some further thought, always a dangerous thing, I decided that I would like a little scenic run before the fiddle yard so I schemed out a 2 foot section with a canal crossing. I bought a wills viaduct kit to span the canal and I planned to have a road bridge behind to hide the canal hitting the backscene. I used wills point rodding and got all that down prior to ballasting. These photos are taken after ballasting had started…..obviously! I have also painted the rail sides a rusty colour. That’s it for now but I hope to keep updates flowing over the next few days. Regards, James Edited January 23, 2023 by jamest 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Looking good. Hope to see how it progresses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cnw6847 Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 Looks great so far. Look forward to seeing progress. I've not tried the magnets for KDs like you've used. Do they work reliably like that and where did you buy them from please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 24, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, cnw6847 said: Looks great so far. Look forward to seeing progress. I've not tried the magnets for KDs like you've used. Do they work reliably like that and where did you buy them from please? Hi Richard, I think I got them from amazon.... I'll check later. They do work perfectly well, you need to get the poles opposing one another on each rail side so there is a "magnetic flow" across the rail to pull the coupling. There is nothing wrong with the kadee undermagnet but it is more expensive and requires a relatively big hole. I think the round ones are easiest as you just need 4 drilled holes. Regards, James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 The track layout you have used is a very versatile one. It's practically identical to an industrial scheme that Iain Rice drew up under the title of "The Other ICI", except that he used the long siding off the slip on the left of your photo as the entry road, Piano style. In that guise, you need to shorten the loop to fit in long enough headshunts to get wagons around it. @Lambton58 built that one and is now on a second incarnation with a more conventional entrance, albeit with the crossed sidings laid with two points and a diamond rather than a slip. The only niggle we found was wiring the diamond (and I guess you have the same issue with the slip) as you have a conflict if both routes into the sidings are set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 24, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2023 Hi Simon, I did not consciously use the scheme you mention but I'm sure there are influences at the back of my mind. I wanted a bit of interest while using up points I had bought for other ideas that did not see the light of day. Because I'm using insulfrog stuff and DCC - something i forgot to mention - the wiring is pretty easy. The points are controlled by seep point motors - but no need for frog switching. Regards, James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 24, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2023 Another quick update, Here are some pictures of some finished ballasting. I've used woodland scenics grey on the main running lines and some Attwood aggregates grey road stone in the yard sidings to represent finer stuff. The yard sidings will have wood burner ash rubbed into them later - to make it look a little dirtier and non-uniform. I was intending to use my peco platform edging as you can see, but as it is the concrete variety I planned to face it with brick plasticard. The views you see below are with it painted in a basic red brick colour. It is just pinned in place to enable ballasting to take place. After ballasting, and trying to paint a good varied brick colour, I decided to scrap that idea and revert to scalescenes printed sheets and card. See below - I've used aged brick and gone for a half paved, half tarmac platform surface. It was useful to ballast with the peco edging in place as the card platform would not have liked the PVA flood very much. You'll see I've also used my standard gaugemaster backscene as well! Cheers, James 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 James, I must say your brick platform edging looks really effective. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: James, I must say your brick platform edging looks really effective. I was just about to say the same thing! Very impressive platform. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 24, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2023 Hi again, Thanks for the kind comments. Here is the progress on the scenic run over the canal. Profiled front for the embankment Road bridge behind against the backscene…..when I add it! Wills bridge primed first and then washed over with a dark mix and wiped off. The canal sides are from scalescenes as well. Water surface is also scalescenes covered in several brushed coats of varnish. The rear road bridge is red brick and wills varigirder. The rail bridge is still removable at this stage. I then filled the embankments in and applied plaster bandage….sorry no photos of that….then out with the grass master and apply some grass. Also started to fit the back-scene here. Regards, James 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted January 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, jamest said: Attwood aggregates grey road stone in the yard sidings to represent finer stuff. Where do you get your Atwood Aggregates ballast. Does being ‘local’ help? Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 24, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, 5BarVT said: Where do you get your Atwood Aggregates ballast. Does being ‘local’ help? Paul. Hi Paul, I’ve always bought from them at shows….I always find it better to see and ‘feel’ it to judge what grade to buy. I don’t know if they have an online shop? Regards, James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cnw6847 Posted January 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2023 23 hours ago, jamest said: Hi Richard, I think I got them from amazon.... I'll check later. They do work perfectly well, you need to get the poles opposing one another on each rail side so there is a "magnetic flow" across the rail to pull the coupling. There is nothing wrong with the kadee undermagnet but it is more expensive and requires a relatively big hole. I think the round ones are easiest as you just need 4 drilled holes. Regards, James Thank you James, think I might try some. I do like the big undertrack ones as well. Do this arrangement ease the issue of axles attracting on the magnets? Fortunately I do have a good supply of the old plastic axle metal wheels but handy to know if I run out. Links would be useful please? Many thanks Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 25, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, cnw6847 said: Thank you James, think I might try some. I do like the big undertrack ones as well. Do this arrangement ease the issue of axles attracting on the magnets? Fortunately I do have a good supply of the old plastic axle metal wheels but handy to know if I run out. Links would be useful please? Many thanks Richard Hi, Not great at links, etc, but here is my attempt.... Magenesis 52 Pieces Neodymium Magnets 10x2 mm Disc Magnets Extremely Strong Approx. 2 kg Adhesive Strength https://amzn.eu/d/2ZYyuiI It was from amazon and looks to be about a tenner. Regarding the axle draw..... I've not done a lot of running and testing yet but you do still get some movement. I can't confidently say whether it is worse or better than the kadee magnet. Regards James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 25, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2023 Hi again, Here are a few more updates on the progress. This is still catching up - I don't work this fast normally! Once the basics are bone - track laid - bridges and platform done - I started to plan the greenery. First the road - it will merge with the backscene behind the signal box and some hedging. I have also formed the land and plaster bandaged behind the bay platform. And added a wall and gate at the end. The station building is a gaugemaster (is it fordhampton?) effort and is covered with scalescenes paper to match the other structures. Although this building will change slightly later. The pagoda shelter is a Bachmann scenecraft item. regards, James 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 25, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Hi again, Updates thick and fast! I mentioned the station building above and how I coated the plastic Fordhampton building with brick paper. It didn’t really go that well so I decided to make the base structure in card using the windows and doors from the kit. I also decided to try and copy my Bachmann resin shed used on my North Molton layout. I shortened it very slightly to suit the wills corrugated sheet material. The inside will use printed sheets again…..you will see the finished shed in position later. I can’t show it in situ without jumping too far forward. So new frame next to resin building Clad in wills sheets Inside paper surfaces Roof clad and door runner added Painted up next to the resin building again I will show it on its brick base with door and down pipes later. Regards, James Edited January 25, 2023 by jamest 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Crkey, you work quick, James. I'd be just on my coffee and biscuits whilst still thinking about it... I assume the Midland signalbox is just there as a placeholder for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 25, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: Crkey, you work quick, James. I'd be just on my coffee and biscuits whilst still thinking about it... I assume the Midland signalbox is just there as a placeholder for the moment. Hi Peter, I do look prolific here….but it is just an illusion! What you’ve seen so far is a record of a good few months work. The signal box will indeed change for a more appropriate one in the future. cheers James 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andrew D Posted January 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2023 Thanks for the thorough rundown on how you made the buildings - very useful! It’s all looking most excellent. As for the speed, I’d still be deciding what kind of tea and biscuits… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 26, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Have to say I'm enjoying this, James. A nice looking layout. Rob. Edited January 26, 2023 by NHY 581 Sausage hooves 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cnw6847 Posted January 26, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, jamest said: Hi, Not great at links, etc, but here is my attempt.... Magenesis 52 Pieces Neodymium Magnets 10x2 mm Disc Magnets Extremely Strong Approx. 2 kg Adhesive Strength https://amzn.eu/d/2ZYyuiI It was from amazon and looks to be about a tenner. Regarding the axle draw..... I've not done a lot of running and testing yet but you do still get some movement. I can't confidently say whether it is worse or better than the kadee magnet. Regards James Many thanks for the info James. I'll order some magnets to try. The buildings and layout are looking excellent. Cheers Richard Edited January 26, 2023 by cnw6847 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted January 26, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2023 This is excellent, a lovely little layout. I do like how you have made the track look so flowing. I also do a lot a scalescenes buildings and I love them. Very well done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted January 26, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2023 On 24/01/2023 at 13:44, jamest said: The yard sidings will have wood burner ash rubbed into them later Can you say a bit more about this process? Do you ballast first and then sprinkle on the ash or something different? My wood ash tends to be light grey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted January 26, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ikcdab said: Can you say a bit more about this process? Do you ballast first and then sprinkle on the ash or something different? My wood ash tends to be light grey! Hi Ian, I will try to explain it later when I show the result - the photos to date just show the road stone ballast laid in the yard via the PVA flood. I have had varying results with wood burner ash over several layouts - I "lucked in" a bit on Bratton Lane with the yard surface. I first painted with textured paint and then applied neat PVA and rubbed the ash into the rough surface - perhaps fixing with hairspray or varnish later. I never have any luck with laying ash dry and then wetting and applying PVA like ballast. It always seems to behave badly, when applying said diluted PVA, and lack texture when drying as a grey lump. So going forward I like to have a textured surface to apply the ash to - like textured paint or this fine ballast - then apply over neat PVA, perhaps with a sieve - then rub and re-apply as necessary after with hairspray/varnish. Hope that helps - the pictures will follow soon. PS - looking in your signature link I notice I was only looking at your thread with admiration the other day - first for the electrics (not my thing) - then a bit of shed envy - and of course the actual layout and buildings, etc - very nice! Cheers, James Edited January 26, 2023 by jamest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bandit Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Really enjoying your build James - it’s nice to see a build from the very beginning. I love the scalescenes paper you’ve used by the side of your canal - could you please tell me which one you’ve used as the only one I can find on their website is ‘cobbled setts’ and it doesn’t seem to look like yours. Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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