KMRC announce Exclusive Heljan 00 Gauge Class 86/4 86 402 in BR Blue livery.

[Kernow MRC]

KMRC announce Exclusive Heljan 00 Gauge Class 86/4 86 402 in BR Blue livery.

The Class 86 Bo-Bo locomotives, originally designated AL6, were built between 1965 and 1966. Forty, numbered E3101 to E3140, being built by British Rail Doncaster Works, and sixty, numbered E3141 to E3200, built by English Electric Vulcan Foundry in Newton-le-Willows.

E3170 was built by English Electric and introduced in June 1965 and given the TOPS number 86 002 in 1973. Following being fitted with Flexicoil suspension to allow for 100mph running in 1986 it was renumbered into the 86/4 sub class as 86 402 and is the condition of this Kernow Model Rail Centre Exclusive model in BR Blue livery.

In late 1989 it reclassified as a new subclass 86/6 as 86 602 having the electric train heating isolated and re-gearing to a lower maximum speed of 75 mph and repainted into Railfreight Distribution livery for operation in pairs on long-distance freight services.
86 602 was finally withdrawn and scrapped at Crewe works in 2010.

The Kernow Model Rail Centre Exclusive highly detailed model in 00 Gauge is being produced for KMRC by Heljan and is based on their revised and updated Class 86 models that feature LED lighting, finely detailed underframe, wire handrails and is DCC sound ready with a 21-pin DCC interface.

The Kernow Model Rail Centre Exclusive model is priced at £229.99 and is available to pre-order with delivery expected Q2 2024.

8649 Heljan Class 86/4 Electric Locomotive number 86 402

Chris Trerise, Managing Director, said: “The classic BR Blue era is fondly remembered by many railway enthusiasts and modellers alike, so our first Exclusive West Coast Mainline AC electric being a BR blue Class 86/4, utilising the latest specification Heljan model, we hope will be a popular choice.”

Edited September 22, 2023 by Kernow MRC

[WILLIAM]

Lovely, but will it have the nose end multiple working equipment properly represented (or is this a detail pack add on?)?

 

 

[brushman47544]

I'm also having difficulties finding photos of 86402 in BR blue with the TDM cable receptacles in the lower position closer to the buffer beam. Indeed the photo below (taken on 25 Nov. 89), when it was being painted into triple grey with RfD General decals, shows that they were lowered during the repaint - see the two marks on the cab front.

 

 

86602 at Crewe Electric by 37190 Dalzell on Flickr

Edited September 22, 2023 by brushman47544

[Pete the Elaner]

5 minutes ago, WILLIAM said:

Lovely, but will it have the nose end multiple working equipment properly represented (or is this a detail pack add on?)?

 

 

 

I would be interested to know when it lost the older MU boxes/cables. My understanding was that they were removed in the early 90s, which according to the above text, was after it became 86602 & received RF livery.

The TDM stowage boxes are also in their original orientation in the photos but revised in the model pre-production photos. I think this was an early 90's modification too, but after the TDM boxes were moved.

[Pete the Elaner]

4 minutes ago, brushman47544 said:

I'm also having difficulties finding photos of 86402 in BR blue with the TDM cable receptacles in the lower position closer to the buffer beam. Indeed the caption to the photo below, when it was being painted into triple grey with RfD General decals, states that they were lowered during the repaint.

 

 

 

86602 at Crewe Electric by 37190 Dalzell on Flickr

 

Well, you've just answered both of my questions before I posted them!

 

Are the MU boxes in a detail pack? If not, I have the artwork for 3d printing & can take a load of them to the Great Electric Train Show in October.

[GordonC]

I suspect they wont be able to do the TDM recepticles in the correct position because its moulded on the tooling rather than a separate part.

 

I always think the tail lights look too large on the Heljan tooling

Edited September 22, 2023 by GordonC

[Pete the Elaner]

37 minutes ago, GordonC said:

I suspect they wont be able to do the TDM receptacles in the correct position because its moulded on the tooling rather than a separate part.

 

 

But this is also one of theirs. It would be correct for 86402.

[D7100]

3 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said:

 

But this is also one of theirs. It would be correct for 86402.

 

 

So Basically Heljan do have the right bodyshell to do 86 402 in BR Blue before conversion to railfreight Grey, but they have used the wrong bodyshell for the mock up picture above. Am i correct in this understanding ? If so hopefully they will rectify this for full production model.

[GordonC]

3 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said:

 

But this is also one of theirs. It would be correct for 86402.

 

You're right, I hadn't noticed that on that model before. It also has the MW jumpers and cable that I would have expected 86402 needed

 

[Graham_Muz]

I can confirm that this is an early sample only just received and does not fully represent the final model options. 

[adb968008]

It needs a lampiron too.

[Pete the Elaner]

15 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

It needs a lampiron too.

 

& a Faiveley pantograph rather than the Brecknell-Willis one in the sample.

[wombatofludham]

1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said:

I can confirm that this is an early sample only just received and does not fully represent the final model options. 

Good to know.  Looking forward to adding it to my 1988 fleet.

[black and decker boy]

Found this, august 1989 still in blue. - on Flickr by David Burrell 

 

and the other end in June 1989 1990 - on Flickr by Simon Flower

I’m in for one of these if it comes with right details.

Edited December 25, 2023 by black and decker boy
Transcription error (1990 should have said 1989)

[Graham_Muz]

On 22/09/2023 at 21:39, Pete the Elaner said:

 

& a Faiveley pantograph rather than the Brecknell-Willis one in the sample.

 

Yes the production versions will be fitted with a Faiveley pantograph

[PM47079]

I like this a lot, provided it comes with the mu cables

[PM47079]

I remember seeing 86432 about this time also in BR blue. I don't think that many 86/4s were BR blue

[cairnsroadworks]

On 25/09/2023 at 22:34, PM47079 said:

I remember seeing 86432 about this time also in BR blue. I don't think that many 86/4s were BR blue

Just those 2 I think!

[PM47079]

I really do like this Limited edition. It's a nice item to do. Hopefully Heljan will do an 86/3 circa 1985 like 86325 or maybe 86316

[PM47079]

Okay I have done a little bit of research through my records and these 2 came up. I believe that they are the only other 86/4 locos which carried blue.

 

[adb968008]

Found this one on flickr

86432

not mine,

 

note the lampiron on 86432, as well as on 402 and 426, but 402 and 432 have the jumpers and multi working.

 

My 1986 book suggests that 86402/7/9/10/15/16/20/23/26/30 and 38 were initially blue in 1986 and were only renumbered by year end.
 

But I can only find 86402/20/26/32 in Blue and confirmed renumbered.

86402 seems to have outlived them all, as suggested blue in both my 1988 and 1989 book.

 

 

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by adb968008

[PM47079]

Definitely the right one for kernow to do given its longevity in blue. Really looking forward to this one

 

[Northern Electric]

Interested to know how this project is coming along... 🙂

Someone mentiond the pantogaph needs to be the Stone & Faively type, has anyone noticed the roof mounted fire extinguisher tank that shouldn't be there? 

I don't think these were fitted until about a decade after the period 86402 is being depicted in here.

That shot from 1990 still in BR blue is actually quite fascinating.  I thought they'd all received a sectorised livery by this point but apparently not. 402 must have been one of the last, if not THE last member of the class to be so treated, so is that what makes it unique?   I might be wrong but also, was it not one of only a handful of 86s never to carry a name?