markw Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, peak experience said: Would the different spring types tie them to certain eras or did the plain type last until withdrawal? The springs were mostly changed to Brunninghaus during the 80s, some wagons were probably being withdrawn at this time, but any that remained in use into the 90s would have had new springs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peak experience Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, markw said: The springs were mostly changed to Brunninghaus during the 80s, some wagons were probably being withdrawn at this time, but any that remained in use into the 90s would have had new springs. Thanks Mark. I'm modelling '78-83 and i'd like to have some semblance of accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted November 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 30/10/2023 at 10:18, Phil Parker said: No one complains when Rapido do it. Actually quite a few people have mentioned it if you look closer at the threads. 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericRMWebUsername Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 According to Gaugemaster, these wagons are "due imminently." I'm looking forward to seeing thoughts, reviews, and pictures! https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/news/article/view/id/1664/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Sharma Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 TTA 60771 [as found in Martin Buck's 'Wagon Recognition' book] was converted from a BP AVTUR tanker into a match wagon for moving ex-LT D78 stock around the Long Marston site pending their conversion by VIVA RAIL into Class 230 MUs. It may well still be up there and I am currently producing a conversion kit to convert the 7mm scale Skytrex TTA into the matchwagon. For interest, a couple of pics of 60771 are attached: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericRMWebUsername Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I actually do think there is one error in the marketing. Unless I'm mistaken, the Petroleum sub-sector logo only started to appear in 1987. Yet HTT6023 is listed era 7 (1971-1986) instead of the appropriate Era 8 (1982-1997). It's curious since it clearly is carrying the Petroleum sub-sector logo. It's obviously not an issue with the accuracy of the model, but with the marketing. Let me know if I'm off base. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Waterton Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, GenericRMWebUsername said: I actually do think there is one error in the marketing. Unless I'm mistaken, the Petroleum sub-sector logo only started to appear in 1987. Yet HTT6023 is listed era 7 (1971-1986) instead of the appropriate Era 8 (1982-1997). It's curious since it clearly is carrying the Petroleum sub-sector logo. It's obviously not an issue with the accuracy of the model, but with the marketing. Let me know if I'm off base. Unfortunately Hornby have a habit of printing the incorrect information. Poor quality control? Poor knowledge? Both? They also seem to have a real issue knowing the difference between Executive and Swallow (okay I know officially it was Swift to begin with but we all know it as Swallow and call it as such) liveries too. Last year's catalogue had the most errors I've ever seen in a Hornby effort; incorrect eras, wrong information, duff descriptions and even some previously used photo's of models that had been photoshopped to show them incorrectly when they were fine before! Even the boxes aren't safe it seems. I have three Hornby HSTs here; one is the original blue and grey, one is in (their attempt at) InterCity Executive and the other is in INTERCITY Swallow. All three boxes say Executive on them. I also have a 56 here with "Steam Locomotive" on the box. 😆 Edited January 19 by Great Waterton 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 12 hours ago, GenericRMWebUsername said: I actually do think there is one error in the marketing. Unless I'm mistaken, the Petroleum sub-sector logo only started to appear in 1987. Yet HTT6023 is listed era 7 (1971-1986) instead of the appropriate Era 8 (1982-1997). It's curious since it clearly is carrying the Petroleum sub-sector logo. It's obviously not an issue with the accuracy of the model, but with the marketing. Let me know if I'm off base. Correct, the Trainload Freight Sectors, 3 tone grey and subsector logos were launched in 1987 with a big event at Ripple Lane. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 A lot of the errors will be the result of those in the publicity and advertising dept (who do catalogues as well as adverts) being non-specialists. These errors occur elsewhere- I used to work as a GCSE examiner. One year every candidate doing our paper gained a "free" mark. Why? Because between being signed off by the Chief Examiner's committee and the paper appearing in print one multiple choice question had lost answer E- the correct one. Lost somewhere in typesetting - which in those days wasn't done by the examiners themselves. Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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