Swissrail Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Hello all. I thought I'd start a new thread for my latest coachbuilding saga as the the ones I have on the stocks at the moment are LMS and LNER. No further pictures just now but a warning. I masked the shells this morning with Duck brand blue paper masking tape so I could spray their interiors. THIS TAPE IS RUBBISH AND MUST BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS! As I spray with car acrylic the tape was only on the sides for about two hours, however, when I came to remove it left its adhesive on every edge it had touched...grab handles,door hoods, top and bottom of the sides and every window edge. DISASTER!. It's taken me another hour to remove all the adhesive using judicious rubbing with my thumbs and picking at it with a scalpel blade. God knows what would have happened if it had been left on overnight as might have been the case if I'd sprayed with enamel. I'll have to source the 3M white paper variety of masking tape as it was fine. Alan McMillan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Thanks for that heads-up, Alan. Looking forward to pictures when you post them - you can never have enough LNER, really. And some of the red stuff can look smart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissrail Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Thanks for that heads-up, Alan. Looking forward to pictures when you post them - you can never have enough LNER, really. And some of the red stuff can look smart. Hi For the sake of completeness I've decided to repost the 'under construction' pictures I had put on my original post about GW vehicles for the benefit of yourself and others who may not have seen them. Footboard Brackets Footboards Footboard Brackets attached to the bogie frame The finished article Brake rodding and dymano drive belt The three coaches in primer. The colourful stuff starts next week. Alan McMillan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Nice, I look forward to seeing them painted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Is the wire around the dynamo a sort of safety loop? I'd not seen that before, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissrail Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Is the wire around the dynamo a sort of safety loop? I'd not seen that before, thanks. Hi Craig It's intended to be the wiring but I now realise from your comments that I may have gotten its layout a bit wrong! Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi Swissrail, Enjoying the detail shots of the chassis/dynamo parts. Modellling the wiring looks easy to do and gives the model a very realistic appearance. More photos please when you have time! Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissrail Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi Swissrail, Enjoying the detail shots of the chassis/dynamo parts. Modellling the wiring looks easy to do and gives the model a very realistic appearance. More photos please when you have time! Colin Hi Colin The wiring is easy to do if you've got a steady hand! It just seemed like a little detail you don't often see that adds a touch of je ne sais quoi. Also I do like to have a sense of weight below the floor although I draw the line at putting in things that can't be seen unless the coach is upside down. More pictures will follow next week showing them in ex-works condition then after they're weathered. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi Craig It's intended to be the wiring but I now realise from your comments that I may have gotten its layout a bit wrong! Alan It looks Ok. You might like to add a dynamo belt though. Looking forward to seeing the final photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 He did! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 He did! Chris I stand corrected. For some reason it was not very visible in the side photos. Perhaps they were displayed out of sequence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi Craig It's intended to be the wiring but I now realise from your comments that I may have gotten its layout a bit wrong! Alan I haven't really looked closely at how these things were wired so you may be spot on, my comment was more curiosity from not knowing. I'm fully in wagon mode at the moment so haven't looked too closely under many coaches in that area! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi Craig It's intended to be the wiring but I now realise from your comments that I may have gotten its layout a bit wrong! Alan Are we talking Stone's or Vicker's dynamos? I can probably find photos if helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissrail Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi Mike Not sure but if I were pushed I'd say it was a Stone's dynamo. It would certainly be helpful so I could get it right next time. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Try this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissrail Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Try this: Excellent! Thanks Mike. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissrail Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 Excellent! Thanks Mike. Alan Hello all! As promised here are pictures of two of the three coaches I have been building lately, now painted. They are unvarnished as yet and have no glazing so far as I want to weather them before it goes in. The Thompson corridor brake composite is not yet there - being carmine and cream it's taken a bit longer than the other two - I did the last of the lining this morning and I want to leave it alone for 24 hours. I'll post that one in a day or so. Sorry my photgraphy is rubbish!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hi Alan, (edited by Colin!) Superb modelling! What type of paint do you use? Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissrail Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hi Steph, Superb modelling! What type of paint do you use? Colin Hi Colin It's Alan actually but thank you for your comments! The paint I use is car cellulose. The maroon is BMC/Austin/Rover Damask Red and the carmine is Ford Venetian Red. Regards Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hi Colin It's Alan actually but thank you for your comments! The paint I use is car cellulose. The maroon is BMC/Austin/Rover Damask Red and the carmine is Ford Venetian Red. Regards Alan Oops! Sorry Alan. I was flitting from one topic to another there and got confused (I must keep off the MEK). Thanks for the response to my question. Interesting to see that you use car colours. I suppose these are more durable for use on brass. I apologise for asking another question, but do you spray direct from the can? Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissrail Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 Oops! Sorry Alan. I was flitting from one topic to another there and got confused (I must keep off the MEK). Thanks for the response to my question. Interesting to see that you use car colours. I suppose these are more durable for use on brass. I apologise for asking another question, but do you spray direct from the can? Colin Yes I do although the spray head is one I disovered on a can I had years ago that produces a nicer finish than some heads I've found. Most seem to have a very wide spray pattern but this one doesn't. I've never been able to get cellulose to work from an airbrush. The few times I've tried it the paint was dry before it hit the coach side and as a result ended up looking like a fur coat. Disaster! However, cellulose is a better paint than enamel, not so much for brass as such but from the point of view that because it dries very quickly it means that dust is less of a factor. Regards Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hmmmm very tasty beasties... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Yes I do although the spray head is one I disovered on a can I had years ago that produces a nicer finish than some heads I've found. Most seem to have a very wide spray pattern but this one doesn't. I've never been able to get cellulose to work from an airbrush. The few times I've tried it the paint was dry before it hit the coach side and as a result ended up looking like a fur coat. Disaster! However, cellulose is a better paint than enamel, not so much for brass as such but from the point of view that because it dries very quickly it means that dust is less of a factor. Regards Alan Hi Alan, Your reply explains a lot! I had never really thought about different types of spray heads, but I swore I'd never use cans again after a diaster with acrylic undercoat on a Ratio van..... maybe I'll try again. Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2014 OK so this is being very picky but it may help other builders of this type of coach; the D1703 with Comet sides. I looked (was linked here from a RMWeb archive search) here as I was seeking inspiration for a build of the full Comet kit of a D1703 I am about to start. I found the inspiration as this is a lovely build, but with one thing I must point out. As it is almost four years ago I am sure the builder has since realised that one needs to consider whether to scribe the lower parts of the door etches on the lower panels of the sides on this and some other side etches. It needs to be done before forming the turn-under. It also needs to be done carefully as the etches are on quite thin brass. I had failed to notice that before completing the sides on a couple of Gresleys I built way back. They needed the same treatment and I'd forgotten what Geoff at Comet had told me - doh! You do notice if it's not done - honestly. That's how I know............. Anyhow, I've learnt some great new 'tricks' from here; e.g the dynamo belt and bogie footbards - very clever work. Thanks. Sincerely, P @ 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2014 This is what I was mumbling about; not that clear I'm sorry to say but shows some of the 'scribed' door 'edges' on the lower panels. They will probably not even show once it is painted Very neat little representations of the lower door hinges on this Comet Sides etch; not come across these before (sad boy..... obviously not done enough LMS/Midland stock). The top and middle prototype hinges were hardly noticeable so I won't bother with those. What a hinge fitting time saver - hooray. The sides have 'become' a little more 'sturdy with the turn-under having been formed and the drops soldered in. However, I think I may still either solder some scrap etch along almost the length of the inside faces of the sides or recommend to the new owner that he puts in some sort of 'strengthening' devices; e.g. some sort of strip along the inner face of the sides and/or cross braces between the sides at just below cantrail height, once he has the interior in place. I'm sure square profile plastistrut would suffice for the sides. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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