swtrains Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I guess I must be very out of touch with the model railway scene - I was perusing the Peco site the other day and drilled down to the periodicals section - only to find a different editor was listed for the Railway Modeller. I was expecting to see Steve Flint listed - but he wasn't! Thinking I had missed something, I tried a search on both Google and here, but nothing came up. Is there a thread on this that I can be referred to, or can anyone fill me in on when and why Steve left/retired? Many thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 10 Moderators Share Posted January 10 Craig Tiley has been editor for quite a bit, appointed after Steve retired. We're all entitled to one day so there's no need to answer 'why'. 4 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Steve was editor until past standard retirement age. He did a great job as editor and I’m sure he is enjoying a well earned chance to do some modelling. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11 6 hours ago, AY Mod said: Craig Tiley has been editor for quite a bit, appointed after Steve retired. We're all entitled to one day so there's no need to answer 'why'. After Steve handed over to Craig in 2021, he was listed as Senior Editor (Editor Emeritus, I suppose). His final retirement was announced in the November issue. 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post kevinlms Posted January 11 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: After Steve handed over to Craig in 2021, he was listed as Senior Editor (Editor Emeritus, I suppose). His final retirement was announced in the November issue. Last issue with Steve as the editor proper was June 2021. Railway Modeller since purchased by Peco has had the following editors. CJ Freezer August/September 1950 (I think) until March 1978. John Brewer until June 2008 Steve Flint until June 2021 Craig Tilley onwards. Must be an awful job, changing editors every 5 minutes. 4 in 72 years, Peco must glue them to the chair! 20 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtrains Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 Many thanks for putting me in the picture. 2021? I'm even more out of touch than I realised! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted January 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11 Craig Tiley has been with RM for quite some time. I believe coming and photographing my American HO layout for Continental Modeller back in 2011 was one of his earliest assignments with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 20 hours ago, kevinlms said: Railway Modeller since purchased by Peco has had the following editors. CJ Freezer August/September 1950 (I think) until March 1978. John Brewer until June 2008 Steve Flint until June 2021 Craig Tilley onwards. Must be an awful job, changing editors every 5 minutes. 4 in 72 years, Peco must glue them to the chair! Continental Modeller is even remarkable. It isn't far off its fiftieth anniversary (although it only appeared occasionally in its early years) and has, I believe, only had two permanent editors in that time - David Lloyd until his untimely death and Andrew Burnham since. 5 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11 21 hours ago, kevinlms said: Last issue with Steve as the editor proper was June 2021. Railway Modeller since purchased by Peco has had the following editors. CJ Freezer August/September 1950 (I think) until March 1978. John Brewer until June 2008 Steve Flint until June 2021 Craig Tilley onwards. Must be an awful job, changing editors every 5 minutes. 4 in 72 years, Peco must glue them to the chair! If you add John Brewer's time at Model Railway News (I think) he must have been the longest-serving model railway magazine editor of all (with the possible exception of Linn Westcott at MR though?). 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted January 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11 35 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: If you add John Brewer's time at Model Railway News (I think) he must have been the longest-serving model railway magazine editor of all (with the possible exception of Linn Westcott at MR though?). Some long time editors, I can think of are Chris Leigh of various magazines including prototypes and the editor (and owner I believe) of Model Engineer from it's start for over 50 years - Percival Marshall. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIA185 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I recall that Steve submitted a feature and large format colour slides of his Kyle of Tongue layout to Model Railway Constructor when I was editor in the 1980s. The layout was so evocative of that northern Scotland area and the slides were among the best I'd seen since Brian Monaghan (with a very different photographic style) had retired. I needed a layout photographer who could take good colour shots and Steve did the job for me for a while. I think most readers have little idea how challenging layout photography can be. I think it was Steve whom I commissioned to photograph a layout, which turned out to be in a loft, on an 80degree summer day! Happy retirement, Steve! (Chris Leigh) 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 hours ago, St Enodoc said: If you add John Brewer's time at Model Railway News (I think) he must have been the longest-serving model railway magazine editor of all (with the possible exception of Linn Westcott at MR though?). And he was on the editorial team at Meccano Magazine before that. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12 12 hours ago, St Enodoc said: If you add John Brewer's time at Model Railway News (I think) he must have been the longest-serving model railway magazine editor of all (with the possible exception of Linn Westcott at MR though?). Did CJF edit MRC during the period that Peco owned the magazine and before he moved to RM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RichardT Posted January 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12 (edited) 28 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Did CJF edit MRC during the period that Peco owned the magazine and before he moved to RM? GH Lake announced his retirement as RM editor in Vol.1 No.4 (May 1950). CJF was announced as the new editor of RM on the cover of Vol.1 No.5 (Jun-Jul 1950) “as from the next issue”. He then edited RM in London under Ian Allan’s ownership until Vol.2 No.12 (Sep-Oct 1951). From Nov 1951 the magazine went monthly under the new Peco ownership and CJF went with it to Devon. MRC was a later development after Ian Allan realised they’d made a mistake getting out of the model railway magazine market. Richard Edited January 12 by RichardT Correcting dates by actually looking at my copies. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, RichardT said: MRC was a later development after Ian Allan realised they’d made a mistake getting out of the model railway magazine market. Richard MRC was hardly a later development, having been started in March 1934 with E F Carter as editor. It was acquired by Ian Allan around 1960, so it took them eight years to realise their mistake. Cyril Freezer, when he left Railway Modeller, moved to Model Railways, one of the incarnation of Model Railway News in its declining years, where he continued editing for a further five years. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RichardT Posted January 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nick Holliday said: MRC was hardly a later development, having been started in March 1934 with E F Carter as editor. It was acquired by Ian Allan around 1960, so it took them eight years to realise their mistake. Cyril Freezer, when he left Railway Modeller, moved to Model Railways, one of the incarnation of Model Railway News in its declining years, where he continued editing for a further five years. Yes sorry - it was the Ian Allan/Peco involvement with magazines on which I was focussing. I must admit that I moved over to Model Railways from RM when CJF jumped ship, dropping it when it became the exacerable “Your Model Railway” by which time Model Railway Journal was fortunately hoving into view. In later years I’ve backfilled my MRN/MR collection so I now have a complete set. Some of the articles in the pre-CJF 1970s MRN are very much in the style/spirit of early MRJs. Richard Edited January 12 by RichardT 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12 10 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Did CJF edit MRC during the period that Peco owned the magazine and before he moved to RM? I don't think so, Mike (did Peco ever own MRC?).. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted January 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12 (edited) 11 hours ago, RichardT said: MRC was a later development after Ian Allan realised they’d made a mistake getting out of the model railway magazine market. And then Hornby Magazine was a later development after IA had realised they has made a mistake in getting rid of MRC and getting out of the model railway magazine market. And a later development was when IA got rid of Hornby Magazine and got out of the model railway magazine market. Edited January 12 by ian 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Not Jeremy Posted January 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12 Yes, and then IA got rid of itself. All very sad. I suspect old man IA has been gently rotating in his grave ever since he was put into it..... 3 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RichardT Posted January 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Not Jeremy said: Yes, and then IA got rid of itself. https://www.ianallan.com/ Still going. We all think of it as a railway publishing company but that’s the part of the business they decided to let go in favour of their other - presumably more profitable - lines. Just goes to show that our perspective isn’t always the full picture! RichardT 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Not Jeremy said: Yes, and then IA got rid of itself. All very sad. I suspect old man IA has been gently rotating in his grave ever since he was put into it..... I was just going to make that point. Seemed to be a slow death with bits being either sold off or closed down. It was a bit of a surprise that Hornby Magazine has been part of Key since 2012! I do find it a pity that they couldn't have separated the military, aircraft, transport and railway sections as Crecy don't seem that bothered with the railway side of things. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Not Jeremy Posted January 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, RichardT said: https://www.ianallan.com/ Still going. We all think of it as a railway publishing company but that’s the part of the business they decided to let go in favour of their other - presumably more profitable - lines. Just goes to show that our perspective isn’t always the full picture! RichardT Well sort of, but not really those are three disparate and slightly depressing rumps, bearing no relation (OK Great Cockrow does a bit) to what has been a significant and worthwhile organisation. As, to be fair, alluded to on the current website. As I said, all very sad. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted January 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13 (edited) We're drifting away from the original topic here but for many years IA made its money from property interests rather than publishing. The founder was, however, very attached to the publishing arm and it was only after he was no longer in the driving seat that it could be flayed, filleted and dumped. Edited January 13 by ian 2 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted January 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13 (edited) One part of the IA empire that they were always very cagey about was Lewis Masonic - a publisher and bookseller of masonic texts. The Midland Counties shop/warehouse in Hinckley had a 'secret' showroom where freemasons could browse and buy. IA was a freemason and that was one of his pet schemes. Edited January 13 by ian 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtrains Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 As the OP here, I had my original query very quickly, and efficiently, answered. As Ian suggested, it has now drifted a little off topic, but all to the good - I am finding this has turned into a fascinating thread and I am learning so much! Just waiting for Chris Leigh to pitch in, as he has a long acquantance with model railway publishing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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