Popular Post Accurascale Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 Andrew Barclay Saddle Tank Decorated Samples Revealed It's been a colourful few days here at Accurascale Towers, as we have been assessing and evaluating the decorated samples of the Andrew Barclay tank engines which we have taken over following the closure of Hattons. Following on from our colourful reveal last week of our O gauge Ruston 88DS decorated samples, we're thinking of selling sunglasses so you can cope with this kaleidoscope of colour! Overall, they're excellent and will certainly be up to the very best standards that the Hattons Originals errr... original (!) releases were. However, there are some minor corrections that need implementing to get them to those high standards once again. We noted on the NCB locomotive that the buffer shanks need to be black instead of red, and the handbrake centre section should be blue, not black. On the Caledonia Works locomotive, the lining on the cylinders does not extend to the full length of the cylinder, so this will be corrected too. "Efficient" also has some lining quirks which need correcting, including placement on the tank sides, the thickness and again around the cylinder ends. On "Victory", the factory have created a sample with the wrong cab windows, the motion bracket is incorrectly painted black and the base of the buffer shanks should be black. We will also be tweaking the shade. One further change we are looking to make is adjusting the three link chain couplings to give them a slightly more realistic appearance. Overall, these are very minor tweaks required to ready these locomotives for full production, which will now kick off in the coming weeks! This means that the delivery date to customers will be late Q4 of 2024. We are locked into the production run size that Hattons specified with the factory, so there is only a finite amount still available to pre-order. Anyone who has previously placed a pre-order for these locomotives with Hattons can rest assured that their pre-order is safe and has been transferred to us, unless they requested otherwise. Pre-order yours today, with no money down, directly via the Accurascale website below, for £99.95 per loco. Pre-Order today: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/andrew-barclay-14-16-0-4-0st-industrial 18 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nova Scotian Posted February 15 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15 These look great - have a lined green, unnumbered on order. But now I'm drooling over the unnumbered lined blue too... and Q4 delivery does give me some time to save up... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Davidjsmith Posted February 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15 Any chance is sound for these Loco’s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Uncle Skeleton Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 46 minutes ago, Nova Scotian said: These look great - have a lined green, unnumbered on order. But now I'm drooling over the unnumbered lined blue too... and Q4 delivery does give me some time to save up... I’m the opposite, I had the light blue and Caledonia on pre order, I may have to swap the latter for the apple green. They all look fantastic though! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nightstar.train Posted February 15 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15 54 minutes ago, Davidjsmith said: Any chance is sound for these Loco’s? Accirascale have said that it is too late to make any changes to this batch as production is so far advanced. So I think a sound fitted version probably won’t happen. Hopefully Accurascale will make a sound chip you can order through them and include sound on the next batch. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Is any thought being given to a back dated version (pre 1920) with the curved cab side or a boiler with daylight beneath it as managed by the Hornby Peckett? Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, davknigh said: Is any thought being given to a back dated version (pre 1920) with the curved cab side or a boiler with daylight beneath it as managed by the Hornby Peckett? Cheers, David I know what you mean, but there's not much daylight in there anyway I'm afraid. Look where the smokebox is and then look across. Most of that gap was filled with boiler. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 15/02/2024 at 15:50, davknigh said: Is any thought being given to a back dated version (pre 1920) with the curved cab side or a boiler with daylight beneath it as managed by the Hornby Peckett? Cheers, David On 15/02/2024 at 13:20, Davidjsmith said: Any chance is sound for these Loco’s? Keep in mind that they only picked up the models from Hattons 5 minutes ago. I'm pretty impressed that they managed to digest all of Hattons research material (plus add some of their own no doubt), look at the samples, spot errors and send back feedback to get this prior planned batch underway in good order. So who knows what the future will bring with these models. But it's off to bright start. 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted February 17 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17 I notice that they all have vacuum pipes. Is that because they are modelled in preserved condition? Are the brake valve and ejector also modelled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribird Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) As mentioned in the article, there will be amendments, will Victory end up with this style of cab windows? I don’t recall seeing artwork for the back of the second batch of Barclays. Only front and side. Image taken from Hattons' website. Edited February 17 by Ribird Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 If people are talking about future developments rather than sound, how about built in stay alive to compensation for the tiny wheelbase 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 +1 on Pmorgancym. Operation of model locomotives is a 'mutual understanding' between the design, and the operator. If it runs on a little, like with a built in stay alive for DC operation, it's little more than an exaggerated flywheel effect, but it could assist greatly in running small wheelbase locomotives over points at 'prototypical speeds', not sped up to compensate for lack of pickup. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 17/02/2024 at 13:05, atom3624 said: +1 on Pmorgancym. Operation of model locomotives is a 'mutual understanding' between the design, and the operator. If it runs on a little, like with a built in stay alive for DC operation, it's little more than an exaggerated flywheel effect, but it could assist greatly in running small wheelbase locomotives over points at 'prototypical speeds', not sped up to compensate for lack of pickup. Al. Dapol's solution with their tilting axle on their B4 tank is very effective under these conditions. I never had one stall on points once. The down side is that you have to be very careful when taking the model apart. And once I had a kid suddenly speeding one up causing all the motion to lock up! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 15/02/2024 at 09:57, Steamport Southport said: I know what you mean, but there's not much daylight in there anyway I'm afraid. Look where the smokebox is and then look across. Most of that gap was filled with boiler. Jason I’ve hear that argument before but the same can be said of the Peckett but somehow Hornby got around that problem and it appears that Rapido have managed it too with their fire less Barclay. I’m prepared to accept that in Hatton’s case it was down to tooling costs but they still managed to produce exquisite detail inside the cab which is equally hard to see, but they did it. But that was then and this is now. Accurascale have been building a reputation of getting first class detail on their models and even going to the extent of making EM & P4 wheel sets available for some engines. All I’m asking is that Accurascale consider an upgrade that would include the detail change and perhaps include earlier variants of a very popular engine. The old reason for not showing the gap was down to gearing and motor size, that is no longer a valid concern. Cheers, David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 20 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20 On 17/02/2024 at 09:29, Pmorgancym said: If people are talking about future developments rather than sound, how about built in stay alive to compensation for the tiny wheelbase Why fix something that isn't broken ? They don't need a stay alive. I've never had any issues with mine moving at creepy crawly speeds over pointwork on a small industrial layout. Surely it's better to keep these at the price they are and leave it to the customer to upgrade or not according to taste. Rob 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nova Scotian Posted March 13 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13 Added another one to my pre-order. Had ordered a Dapol Hawthon Leslie PLA, and the lined dark blue will pair perfectly... Both were much better prices than RRP for some shunters from mainstream brands - I understand of course if you wait they'll go on sale if there's any left, but where I'm now looking into a couple of liveries I can't really take that chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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